Is Fatherlessness A Black Women's Problem, or A Black Males' Problem?

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Real men don't sit and whine about women. Men solve problems. If you feel that black women are the issue, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to whine like a baby throwing a tantrum in the store, or are you going to decide to man up and encourage other men to do so as well?

If women have so much control, then maybe you should focus on manning up and taking it back. Men are supposed to be leaders, not sitting around whining about women.

Furthermore, any intelligent man or woman is able to discern that issues are a lot more complicated than "it's all black women's fault." No, it's not. For better or worse we are in this together as a people. As a people we will rise together or as a people we will fall together. Throughout the process of figuring it out, there are issu
ses that need to be worked on for both sides. Any attempts to direct the conversation to one that places the blame solely on women will be dismissed.

I always love when a females wants to sit up here and tell a man, someone she's never been, never will be, and probably never even had in her life growing up, or poorly chose in her youth what a "real" man is. fukk you! It's not my job to fix a problem you created. Black men like me get passed up everyday for thugs, pretty boys and athletes, and then when those men fukk up and don't fulfill your little fantasy you had in your head and leaves you with 3 kids then it's ALL black men's fault. And i'm very intelligent but it doesn't take a PHD to understand our problems are very simple. I don't even need a high school to understand our problems. What are our problems? @mamba has already alluded to it. Black women are frustrated because the men they WANT can't get their act together, or they can't get, so instead of focusing their attention on the group of black men who would actually do right by them(that they ignore because of lack of looks or money) they instead sit around and complain and bytch. And you can dismiss whatever the fukk you want, the fact is you're in the motherfukkers to blame. Stop dismissing and ignoring good men because they don't have the looks of a model or male stripper or because they aren't millionaires and then maybe you'd find a good man. As a black man i will no longer be silent and allow you and other bytches to paint all black as the same or make this a 50/50 problem. No bytch this is YOUR problem. Do YOUR part to fix it by owning up to your lack of responsibility and accountability in picking men.
 

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Nah, this isn't true. I have never denied the existence of good black males. I will continue to refute the silly notion that you have that they are the majority.

As I've stated before to you @mamba @agnosticlady the pool is practically nonexistent. It's that simple. These mythical and magical black males are in rare form, and to pretend otherwise is ludicrous.

The pool is non existent? Maybe it's my city. I come across a lot of great black man. The man that I am seeing now is African American. I approached him. The last guy I dated is Haitian.

Do you live in a major city, small town, or complete suburb? Do you live around a lot of black men or a mostly non black population? Do you approach black men?
I'm in college and usually do things outside of college. The other day I was in the library studying and a black man approached me. I recently met a black man that is in school to become an architecture. He is a kind young man. We talked about architecture and interior design. My black female acquaintances have black boyfriends, or fiance. My coworker is married to a black man and she is having their second child in a few weeks. Are there black men in jail, running the streets, gay, and etc? Yes, one can not deny that. At the same time to say that there are no good black men? Nah....
 

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Lmao why so mad? You wouldn't put your hands on me. Don't write checks that your mouth can't cash. We can have disagreements, but don't try to act all tough and act as if you would even attempt to fight me. If I posted my address on here you wouldn't even bust a grape, so stop make internet threats.

Oh and thanks for the neg. I don't have a dog and I would never sleep with a dog. LMAO

Is she making a terroristic threat? I'd report her my friend,make her ass sorry.
 

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Real men don't sit and whine about women. Men solve problems. If you feel that black women are the issue, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to whine like a baby throwing a tantrum in the store, or are you going to decide to man up and encourage other men to do so as well?

If women have so much control, then maybe you should focus on manning up and taking it back. Men are supposed to be leaders, not sitting around whining about women.

Furthermore, any intelligent man or woman is able to discern that issues are a lot more complicated than "it's all black women's fault." No, it's not. For better or worse we are in this together as a people. As a people we will rise together or as a people we will fall together. Throughout the process of figuring it out, there are issues that need to be worked on for both sides. Any attempts to direct the conversation to one that places the blame solely on women will be dismissed.

heres that old real men jargon that drips from the mouths of black women, a real man would blah blah blah.

The black community the only community where women at a majority percentage are rearing and shaping the views of men, y'all single moms scorched a whole generation and this is what we have anarchy

how about a real woman wouldn't pop out of kids at out of wedlock, a real woman wouldn't waste her prime years with the thugs and vagabonds of society. A real woman would be accountable for her horrible decision making
 

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bytch shut the fukk up... Say that shyt off a screen... I wish a bytch would... Put my fist so far down your throat you'd start speaking your native fried okra then...

Trifling self righteous dog p*ssy ass bytch

Very classy. Issuing a "Terroristic Threat" i see. You know that's a felony.
 

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Nah, this isn't true. I have never denied the existence of good black males. I will continue to refute the silly notion that you have that they are the majority.

As I've stated before to you @mamba @agnosticlady the pool is practically nonexistent. It's that simple. These mythical and magical black males are in rare form, and to pretend otherwise is ludicrous. If any other group exhibited the fatherless problem that black males have you'd say they were apart of the problem. You all are disingenuous at best, and idiots at the worst.

That's NOT true. I'm one. My friends are. I meet these men everyday. You just ignore them and won't give them a chance.
 

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The pool is non existent? Maybe it's my city. I come across a lot of great black man. The man that I am seeing now is African American. I approached him. The last guy I dated is Haitian.

Do you live in a major city, small town, or complete suburb? Do you live around a lot of black men or a mostly non black population? Do you approach black men?
I'm in college and usually do things outside of college. The other day I was in the library studying and a black man approached me. I recently met a black man that is in school to become an architecture. He is a kind young man. We talked about architecture and interior design. My black female acquaintances have black boyfriends, or fiance. My coworker is married to a black man and she is having their second child in a few weeks. Are there black men in jail, running the streets, gay, and etc? Yes, one can not deny that. At the same time to say that there are no good black men? Nah....
You must have glossed over several of the words in the quote as I have never denied the existence if good black men just the PREVALENCE. Stop using anecdotal evidence to prove your point. It has never, and will never trump statistical data. This discussion isn't framed from a personal viewpoint, so I also don't see why you all continue to personalize this argument.
 

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women again never want to take accountability for their action.

Y'all choose the men you decide to deal with, y'all choose the men you decide to procreate with and gasp y'all raise the fatherless thugs and vagabonds and emasculated men. It all comes back to you.
 

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Dude, who are you talking to? You are crazy... Why am I engaging in conversation with any of y'all in this thread...

Oh i'm not crazy, i'm keeping it real. You don't have to engage me at all, black women are the laughing stock at the end of the day.
 

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That's NOT true. I'm one. My friends are. I meet these men everyday. You just ignore them and won't give them a chance.
:mindblown: Why are you all skirting around the original premise of the thread, and instead choosing to discuss my dating habits? The premise is fatherlessness among children with black fathers. If white males had such an issue you all would pounce on it, and proclaim it to be their fault, but because you are a member of the group with the bad behavior you offer nothing, but deflection and unaccountability.
 

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women again never want to take accountability for their action.

Y'all choose the men you decide to deal with, y'all choose the men you decide to procreate with and gasp y'all raise the fatherless thugs and vagabonds and emasculated men. It all comes back to you.
According to this logic the solution is clear. If women of all races across the globe stopped procreating with black males then the fatherless problem seen in children with black fathers will cease to exist.
 

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heres that old real men jargon that drips from the mouths of black women, a real man would blah blah blah.

The black community the only community where women at a majority percentage are rearing and shaping the views of men, y'all single moms scorched a whole generation and this is what we have anarchy

how about a real woman wouldn't pop out of kids at out of wedlock, a real woman wouldn't waste her prime years with the thugs and vagabonds of society. A real woman would be accountable for her horrible decision making

Must be nice making all that commentary from that bubble huh?
 
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