Is Fatherlessness A Black Women's Problem, or A Black Males' Problem?

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I've already said that @Panthera is married to a lapdog. With the way she runs her mouth no man with self worth is going to put up with her. Show me where I said that Black men in America should not be held accountable. Show me exactly where I said Black men in America have no flaws out all what so ever. I am balanced with my opinions and I have no problem calling out a black man or black men that participate in fukkery. The reason why I even joined the coli was because I wanted to express my opnion about Dr.Umar Jhonson being hypocrite. You go on and on about black women not wearing weaves, acting like queens and blah blah blah but you are willingly sleeping with a stripper/single mother with multiple kids. The same woman you tell black women not to be like. The issue is that with many black women in America is that none like to take accountability. Nothing is ever a black womans fault - Nothing. There are many things out there about where black men fall short or what is wrong with black men. It hasn't been until recently that black men have actually collectively started speaking out about the flaws that black women have.
I don't care how smart you were at 21. If you consider the way you think now to be smart then you were probably dumber than a box of rocks. Did you win the brain bowl? You want a trophy? Lol you're more than likely an educated fool.

Secondly you just tried to diss me because of my nationality and speaking my native language. I clearly said that I am proud to be Nigerian. I never said that I was proud about not being fluent in my language lmao.

bytch shut the fukk up... Say that shyt off a screen... I wish a bytch would... Put my fist so far down your throat you'd start speaking your native fried okra then...

Trifling self righteous dog p*ssy ass bytch
 

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Oh i have a question for you babygirl. Answer this.....

Mamba said " Black women are frustrated because the men they actually want either 1) can't get right or 2) don't want them.Instead of choosing from the pool of men who don't fit in those two categories, they'd rather complain and paint all Black men with a broad brush, saying we are ALL criminals, deadbeats, under- or unemployed, gay or chasing after white women.That's not the case. There are plenty of decent Black men to go around for decent Black women."

My question is this.....

(1) Why can't black women choose from the pool of men who don't fit those two categories?

I'll wait :francis:

Trying to figure out where this post addresses my accountability question

All Black women can't weed out deadbeats? :comeon:..... I don't know any of those Black women who can't weed out deadbeats, so any information I provide would be supposition on my part...

From outside looking in, I can say it seems to be environmental and cultural problems at the helm of this issue...

Changing the toxicity of the environment (poverty, education, drugs, disease, instability, lack of opportunities, etc.) will help circumvent the decline in the Black community...

But what y'all are doing on the internet won't fix a damn thing

I don't know why you guys think nagging and forcing blame is going to reverse the problem... Negativity helps no one ever
 

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I find it hilarious that you don't call out @Yup and @LadySimone who don't even live in America, yet they ALWAYS have something bad to say about black men. I was raised in America. LMAO, if I agreed with your asinine line of thinking you wouldn't even bring up my nationality.

Good point. :francis:
 

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You mean @mamba the same fool who says black women have "under developed minds". You both sound like you're mad life handed you a bad hand and want to blame black women for all your problems.

If it quacks like a :duck: then it's a :duck:

A significant percentage, not all. :ufdup:

Life handed me a fantastic hand. I don't have to worry about money, have a great career, keep a young thang on my arm, travel when I please, etc.

I want to see more of my people do the same.
 

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bytch shut the fukk up... Say that shyt off a screen... I wish a bytch would... Put my fist so far down your throat you'd start speaking your native fried okra then...

Trifling self righteous dog p*ssy ass bytch

Lmao why so mad? You wouldn't put your hands on me. Don't write checks that your mouth can't cash. We can have disagreements, but don't try to act all tough and act as if you would even attempt to fight me. If I posted my address on here you wouldn't even bust a grape, so stop make internet threats.

Oh and thanks for the neg. I don't have a dog and I would never sleep with a dog. LMAO
 

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Good point. :francis:

It really trips me out. I've been living in America before I started Pre-K. I should only speak on things that I see if I am agreeing with what they have to say. I know for a fact that if I agreed my nationality would never be bought up, lol. I know my experiences as a black woman. Non black people do not treat me any better because of my nationality, lol.
 

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But me and @mamba are. We know how fukked up our community is. We know how black women select men, and we know 99.9% of the problems are the black woman's doing. You can try and dismiss her, but you can't dismiss us.

Real men don't sit and whine about women. Men solve problems. If you feel that black women are the issue, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to whine like a baby throwing a tantrum in the store, or are you going to decide to man up and encourage other men to do so as well?

If women have so much control, then maybe you should focus on manning up and taking it back. Men are supposed to be leaders, not sitting around whining about women.

Furthermore, any intelligent man or woman is able to discern that issues are a lot more complicated than "it's all black women's fault." No, it's not. For better or worse we are in this together as a people. As a people we will rise together or as a people we will fall together. Throughout the process of figuring it out, there are issues that need to be worked on for both sides. Any attempts to direct the conversation to one that places the blame solely on women will be dismissed.
 

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Trying to figure out where this post addresses my accountability question

All Black women can't weed out deadbeats? :comeon:..... I don't know any of those Black women who can't weed out deadbeats, so any information I provide would be supposition on my part...

From outside looking in, I can say it seems to be environmental and cultural problems at the helm of this issue...

Changing the toxicity of the environment (poverty, education, drugs, disease, instability, lack of opportunities, etc.) will help circumvent the decline in the Black community...

But what y'all are doing on the internet won't fix a damn thing

I don't know why you guys think nagging and forcing blame is going to reverse the problem... Negativity helps no one ever

It's not forcing blame, placing blame on the true culprit. Stop saying they're aren't any good black men and that they're all in jail, gay or with white women. No the one's YOU want are in jail, gail or with white women. There is another group of black men, a high percentage at that, you ladies ignore everyday. Until black women realize they're the REASON for the problems in the black community and decide to change their dating criteria then NOTHING is going to change.
 

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Lmao why so mad? You wouldn't put your hands on me. Don't write checks that your mouth can't cash. We can have disagreements, but don't try to act all tough and act as if you would even attempt to fight me. If I posted my address on here you wouldn't even bust a grape, so stop make internet threats.

Oh and thanks for the neg. I don't have a dog and I would never sleep with a dog. LMAO

Try me... My inbox is open ... No need to talk tough...

Got your keyboard courage... Let's see
 

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Try me... My inbox is open ... No need to talk tough...

Got your keyboard courage... Let's see

LMAO just stop. I'm not giving you my address. I know for a fact that you are not going to drive down to South Florida and fight someone. You are not about that life so just stop. You're actually going to drive to a persons house, knock on their door, and try to fight them? LMAO, please stop. You would more than likely just pass my address around.
 

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You just state certain facts and leave out any that shows the existence of good black men.

Basically you just spread propaganda.
Nah, this isn't true. I have never denied the existence of good black males. I will continue to refute the silly notion that you have that they are the majority.
You're stating "facts" but you've yet to answer what @mamba said? Let me repeat his quote and I want an ANSWER to it. No deflections. No excuses. No bullshyt. A STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER!

Mamba said " Black women are frustrated because the men they actually want either 1) can't get right or 2) don't want them.Instead of choosing from the pool of men who don't fit in those two categories, they'd rather complain and paint all Black men with a broad brush, saying we are ALL criminals, deadbeats, under- or unemployed, gay or chasing after white women.That's not the case. There are plenty of decent Black men to go around for decent Black women."

My question is this.....

(1) Why can't black women choose from the pool of men who don't fit those two categories?

I'll await your answer. And IF you skirt around it then I WILL KEEP QUOTING YOU AND ASKING UNTIL YOU EITHER ANSWER ME STRAIGHTFORWARDLY OR PUT ME ON IGNORE.

But you wouldn't do that(put me on ignore) now would you? Too much pride, and if you do you only prove that we (myself, @mamba , @agnosticlady ) are right, and you're full of shyt.

So i'll await your answer :sas1:
As I've stated before to you @mamba @agnosticlady the pool is practically nonexistent. It's that simple. These mythical and magical black males are in rare form, and to pretend otherwise is ludicrous. If any other group exhibited the fatherless problem that black males have you'd say they were apart of the problem. You all are disingenuous at best, and idiots at the worst.
 

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It's not forcing blame, placing blame on the true culprit. Stop saying they're aren't any good black men and that they're all in jail, gay or with white women. No the one's YOU want are in jail, gail or with white women. There is another group of black men, a high percentage at that, you ladies ignore everyday. Until black women realize they're the REASON for the problems in the black community and decide to change their dating criteria then NOTHING is going to change.

Dude, who are you talking to? You are crazy... Why am I engaging in conversation with any of y'all in this thread...
 
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Its a community problem, but ultimately, I think developmentally Black boys suffer the worst. In turn their poor, and often abusive development affects Black girls who already suffer in their own way from a lack of a father in the home as well. In the end it probably cancels out, but that is the conclusion I've come to.

Personally, I don't understand why its talked about like some foreign concept that Black men who don't want children to not have them. Nor do I think its an impossible feat to task Black men who can't take care of children (and not just monetarily) to not have them. People should act in accordance with what they want in life. If its supposedly all Black women's fault and we are setting out to be single mothers against the wishes of Black men, I don't see how it wouldn't be put on Black men to stop it.

And I don't believe the "It all falls on Black women" idea to be accurate, but even if it were, the thought process of Black women and single mother bashers still doesn't seem to add up. If you don't want something and another person does but you both behave in ways that will definitely eventually get you that something, how are you blaming the person who wanted it and not yourself? Its a head scratcher.
 
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LMAO just stop. I'm not giving you my address. I know for a fact that you are not going to drive down to South Florida and fight someone. You are not about that life so just stop. You're actually going to drive to a persons house, knock on their door, and try to fight them? LMAO, please stop. You would more than likely just pass my address around.

Keep back pedaling and finding your courage behind a screen...

You really don't know anything about me or how I move :smile:

So I implore you and all of your wisdom to try a stranger :smile:
 
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