Is Dr. Dre at the root of all the destructive trends in rap? EDIT: Just the music, not the ills of the Black community

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Schooly D being pretty much invisible to most heads is (insert missing Jackie Chan smiley) to me.


He laid the blueprint and the rest traced it. You can hear the DNA from PSK in so many tracks as well as his entire flex. One thing I do think about is how so many people refuse to realize that music is a tool or weapon (depending on the intent) and has a massive influence. Then you've got the chicken and egg of whether the raps plant the seed or are they simply watering whats within and needs a vent and that brings its own questions...
 

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The executives who paying these radio stations for gangster rap to be played and limiting the play of conscious hip hop and radio and tv taking the bribes started the downfall…

Look u can make all the im shooting nikkas up , fukking your baby mamas and gang gang shyt all u want… it’s up to the gate keepers on radio and tv at the time to say fukk that we not playing that, we going to keep playing brand Nubian, PE, pharcyde , etc etc but after death row blew up , you started to see from rappers like Mc lyte who was all cha cha to now wanting a rough neck to jodeci in R&B go from these NC forever my lady nikkas, to timbs and skull caps
You're right but you're still misunderstanding the question itself.
Records labels and radio stations didn't make gangsta rap.
Why were these labels fighting over Dre like he was a bad bytch?
Eazy took Dre from Lonzo. Lonzo was salty.
Suge took Dre from Eazy. Eazy was salty.
Jimmy took Dre from dikk Griffey, and eventually took him from Suge.
Suge's jealousy over Dre ended with him killing a man with a car and put him in prison where he is today.
Nobody was fighting over Daz or DJ Quik.
 
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Schooly D being pretty much invisible to most heads is (insert missing Jackie Chan smiley) to me.


He laid the blueprint and the rest traced it. You can hear the DNA from PSK in so many tracks as well as his entire flex. One thing I do think about is how so many people refuse to realize that music is a tool or weapon (depending on the intent) and has a massive influence. Then you've got the chicken and egg of whether the raps plant the seed or are they simply watering whats within and needs a vent and that brings its own questions...
Schoolly D has been mentioned all throughout this thread.
Schoolly D is still out there.
Name the last Schoolly D album you listened to.
 

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I would say record execs but before even them it's consumers.

If consumers wanted Church friendly, PG rap, that's what execs would be chasing and what record labels would be putting out

You're trying to single out the one guy who left gangsta rap he helped create to make more positive music only to come back because that's what the consumer market dictated.
You just lost people. It's never the audience's fault. :russ:
 

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buffalo pincer movement between west (gansta rap), east (bling bling), south (yeah!) powered by record labels :hubie:
 

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"The pincer movement, or double envelopment, is a military maneuver in which forces simultaneously attack both flanks (sides) of an enemy formation. This classic maneuver is important throughout the history of warfare."

"A full pincer movement leads to the attacking army facing the enemy in front, on both flanks, and in the rear. If attacking pincers link up in the enemy's rear, the enemy is encircled"


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:hubie:
 

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2 live crew did it first and caught all the heat ..

2 live crew is THE reason we have a "parental advisory" label on music
Both statements are incorrect.
As Nasty As They Wanna Be was 2 Live Crew's third album and was released a year after Straight Outta Compton.
Prince's Darling Nikki is the reason why we have the Parental Advisory sticker.
 

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"The pincer movement, or double envelopment, is a military maneuver in which forces simultaneously attack both flanks (sides) of an enemy formation. This classic maneuver is important throughout the history of warfare."

"A full pincer movement leads to the attacking army facing the enemy in front, on both flanks, and in the rear. If attacking pincers link up in the enemy's rear, the enemy is encircled"


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:hubie:

What does this have to do with the trends Dre may have popularized in rap music?
 

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The executives who paying these radio stations for gangster rap to be played and limiting the play of conscious hip hop and radio and tv taking the bribes started the downfall…

Look u can make all the im shooting nikkas up , fukking your baby mamas and gang gang shyt all u want… it’s up to the gate keepers on radio and tv at the time to say fukk that we not playing that, we going to keep playing brand Nubian, PE, pharcyde , etc etc but after death row blew up , you started to see from rappers like Mc lyte who was all cha cha to now wanting a rough neck to jodeci in R&B go from these NC forever my lady nikkas, to timbs and skull caps
Don't these execs have people in the street to inform them where the money is before they invest?
 
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