Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?
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USSInsiders
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This is the guy they are attacking
I know I'm late, but that shyt was infuriating. THen dumbass psuedo-intellectual Talib Kweli justifies the shyt with empty rhetoric on Bill Maher's show. What a bunch of fukking idiots
USSInsiders
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And the psuedo militants on here got mad at me for calling these fukking things engineered movements to incite more racial tension and conflict. Stupid fukks. Keep thinking we're nutjobs and conspiracy theorists. THE shyt IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU
not directed at you POtier, just venting here
USSInsiders
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$33mil on protests.
$33 mil given to those communities could have paid for housing grants, land grants, small business loans, etc.
So you "black feminists"think protests are more important then grants and business loans?
shyt is a game man. I always said I felt those riots and things were engineered. I had NO CLUE this shyt was bankrolled by rich fukking jews. shyt doesn't suprise me though. My instincts were correct.
So we got a rich scumbag in Soros, a CIA-connected white Jewish feminist bankrolling a movement that's supposed to help black people
What a fukking sham.
I disagree with the bolded based on the fact that there is no benefit. Unless it's just fun to fukk with black folks. What would be the purpose?
USSInsiders
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Divide and conquer. This is how you control populations and influence control. Why do you think the CIA poured drugs into black/hispanic communities? Why did they give guns to gangs? Why stage shootings and terror attacks? Why would they sabotage and fukk with a candidate like Bernie that is gaining a lot of steam over a good ol' boy network connected person like Clinton?
I know those are all totally different roads of thought, but they're related. You want to prevent actual social change from happening, create a huge honeypot like BLM and funnel everyone into it.
Exploit the white guilt of spineless liberals and direct the passion and ignorance of fed-up people and they'll do your bidding like they're doing now
USSInsiders
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These women sound totally irrational and we wonder why things are the way they are....
Some other poster mentioned it but it's things like this that have made me become a lot more conservative in some respects. I'm a registered independent and Republicans are scum so that's not what I mean.
What i mean is it's becoming painfully obvious that this rampant liberalism is out of control. It's not really trying to do anything other than stomp its feet and make a mockery of people. Now that's it coming out that we have these rich fukks bankrolling these fake-ass liberal movements it's clear what they're really doing is bankrolling operaitons to shove their bullshyt agendas down our throats.
I've heard this term used and it's very true: authoritarian liberalism. It's just extremism under the guise of populism and progressivism but it's really no better than the slack-jawed, racist rednecks that are just as tyrannical with their rhetoric and ideals.
It's part of the reason I despise all this liberal shyt going on
Piff Perkins
Veteran
A SHORT FOLLOW-UP TO THE PREVIOUS POST ON BLACK LIVES MATTER.
I wish that I could find the words to describe how I feel right now. Maybe I will figure them out by the time you finish reading the following passage from Stephen Crockett’s story at The Root describing the meeting between Hillary Clinton and Black Lives Matter activists from Boston:
“Things took a turn when Clinton asked the activists to explain policy changes they wanted to see enacted.
‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, “If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.”‘ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.’
‘Respectfully,’ Clinton answered, ‘if that is your position, then I will only talk to white people about how we are going to deal with these very real problems.’
‘That’s not what I mean,’ Jones said. He added, ‘But what you just said was a form of victim-blaming. You were saying what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts is to …’
Clinton told them that she isn’t interested in changing hearts, but rather policy.
‘You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through that you might change some hearts,’ she said.
‘But if that’s all that happens,’ she continued, ‘we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation because we will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.'”
I want you, the reader, to step back and think about the scenario that has unfolded in the preceding passage. These activists get a private hearing with a candidate who is, at the moment, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. Not only that, but this potential Democratic candidate leads polling aggregates against every potential Republican candidate for the general election as well, meaning that it is plausible that you are having a meeting with the next President of the United States. They get a very simple question, yet it is a question that most people working for social change would kill to get from such a high-profile political candidate:
“Well, the next question is, ‘So what do you want me to do about it?'”
The answer is so stupefying, yet so telling, that it bears repeating.
“‘I stand here in your space and I say this as respectfully as I can, ‘If you don’t tell black people what we need to do, then we won’t tell you all what to do.’ Jones said. ‘What I mean to say is, this is and has always been a white problem of violence. There’s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us.'”
The answer is impressive only in its ability to say absolutely nothing at all. No policy. Not even a nudge in a general direction towards something where a policy might be crafted.Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house faster than that statement could see any type of policy.
And not only that, but do you know what led into that garbled mess that you see above?
“THE PIECE THAT’S MOST IMPORTANT….”
….is, apparently, telling Hillary Clinton that there is nothing that they, Black Lives Matter, can do about any of this. No advocacy. No policy agenda. No concrete plan. Nothing. Asking them to have a plan or a policy agenda? That is….victim-blaming. I am not kidding; that is what happens on the video.
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I have alternated this entire day between befuddlement, bewilderment, and other nouns used to describe an unyielding state of confusion.
Just off the top of my head, there are at least three things that they could have asked for: a guaranteed right to protest without fear of ending your demonstration with a criminal background, legislation that bars police officers from earning pay while an investigation into a police shooting is ongoing, and a national limit to the amount of money that cities can make off moving violations and parking violations. Would those be my top three issues for the Black working class were I to receive the same audience? Absolutely not. But my goodness, it would be something more concrete than a response full of Intro to Sociology-style ephemera.
And for a series of protests that handwaves about “accountability”, it would have been beneficial to make concrete demands with which you could actually hold this person, you know, accountable. But what they allowed Hillary Clinton to do was completely evade any discussion of things that might actually get done if she becomes president in favor of allowing her to school them about the most fundamental premise behind policymaking institutions, which is to make policy.
Because if policy change is not the goal of this group of activists, then I am honestly wondering what the hell we are all doing here.
A Short Follow-Up To The Previous Post on Black Lives Matter.
A Short Follow-Up To The Previous Post on Black Lives Matter.
GODDAMN
This is stunning. It almost feels like hearing someone in a cult talk: the reliance on specific phrases and arguments no matter what is being said by others. In what world is asking "what policy would you like to see implemented" become "victim blaming?" Seriously? What the fukk am I reading...
This reinforces my view that they aren't interested in policy. It's all an emotional reaction. Don't get me wrong brehs I get emotional about this shyt. I remember crying when I heard about Tamir Rice. But you cannot turn those feelings into emotional weakness. You have to combat the enemy and specifically target your goals, and also gain allies. Not throw tantrums and sound like a wack Jehova's Witness trying and failing to bring someone to your side.
Say what you will about MLK's Civil Rights movement...they had specific goals. Policy goals.
I feel like they just take advantage of situations. They don't work in tandem they just have the same ideology.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Shaun King is white. "Black lives matter" is unraveling on twitter. 15 minutes up.
He's mixed.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Nope, he's all the way white.
What's the context?