Intregration was the black community's downfall...

[Field Marshall Bradley]

shyt why you think they took out the BPP/ Malcolm X
they were actually saying/ doing real shyt

Lets keep it 100...

MLK and others of the civil rights movement were willing to die(and did) for the betterment of the community...

Anybody who is willing to die for others is beyond reproach to me, because that is the ultimate sacrifice that 99% of these soft, dikk in the booty ass cats aint fin to make.

Lets not turn this into a MLK vs (insert favorite activist) debate

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I can definitely agree with this. (Even though I have no real proof or evidence)

What do you think about the "great migration" of African-Americans out of the south and up into mid-west and east coast cities?




not to be a conspiracy theorist BUT do you think they promoted this to disperse the African-American population across the country rather than have us all concentrated heavily in the south as a way of weakening us.

Never looked at it that way really...

Let me run this by my Grandmother...(she's 97. Was part of the civil right movement) She had 12 kids and 9 of them went north when they became adults.....I would like to get her opinion on this before I give mine...

I'll get back to this

 

[emoney]

Never looked at it that way really...

Let me run this by my Grandmother...(she's 97. Was part of the civil right movement) She had 12 kids and 9 of them went north when they became adults.....I would like to get her opinion on this before I give mine...

I'll get back to this

aight

it's almost like they lured us to these cities in the midwest, tri-state area by promising manufacturing jobs and then later pulling the rug out from under us by removing or relocating those jobs and leaving impoverished pockets of black people in the inner city surrounded by whites.

I remember someone on this forum awhile ago talked about how this happened after integration

I could be off tho in my observation/analysis

 

[kuttykartel]

aight

it's almost like they lured us to these cities in the midwest, tri-state area by promising manufacturing jobs and then later pulling the rug out from under us by removing or relocating those jobs and leaving impoverished pockets of black people in the inner city surrounded by whites.

I remember someone on this forum awhile ago talked about how this happened after integration

I could be off tho in my observation/analysis

I agree with this somewhat, but we also have to factor in "White Flight"

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

I agree with this. But there are way more who are NOT black bourgeoisie, then there are actual black bourgeoisie. We don't need to make this an us against them kinda thing. I still think that we can make this movement work - with or without them.

Yes I agree we can progress and move forward with our without them.

If things go awry I will definitely repatriate.

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

I agree with the points in this thread but unfortunately I don't see this happening. When I look at other communities (Asian, Indian) I see cultures willing to make sacrifices and work as a family to run businesses. Arabs intrigue me the most because they are demonized in American society, yet that hasn't stopped them from setting up businesses and strong communities. I lived in Jamaica Queens for a while and I witnessed firsthand how Arabs came into an area and set up stores, banks and an entire community. It got to the point where the local Chinese stores were all halal and the grocery stores no longer sold pork.

At the end of the day modern day black americans lack the trust and willingness to make sacrifice. If you are willing to make this sacrifice then I suggest attempting to shop only at black owned businesses. This is a slow movement starting and I have an article from a family who did it for a year.

A Year of Shopping Only at Black Businesses | Mother Jones

i was comming in to pretty much post this..

you have other ethnicities comming to america within the last 20 30 years NOT KNOW A LICK OF ENGLISH AND YET RUNNING LAPS around already establish cultures assimilated in America...

they face teh same dirty looks and being different that blacks or brown do yet theve managed to hunker down and are prob seen now as "the man" yet THESE ETHHNICITES FACED AND EVEN GREATER OBSTICLE WITH REGARDS TO LANGUAGE.

here in socal you saw armenians koreans, viet, south asian etc come here under not so great circumstances only to flourish with HARD WORK DISCIPLINE AND SACRIFICE . ...

cant complain about the system or "the man" or american not working for a certain group WHEN YOU HAVE RECENT BLATANT EXAMPLES OF OTHER CULTURES / ETHNICITIES STARTING FROM EVEN LOWER LEVELS LAPPING OTHER ETHNICITES..

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

aight

it's almost like they lured us to these cities in the midwest, tri-state area by promising manufacturing jobs and then later pulling the rug out from under us by removing or relocating those jobs and leaving impoverished pockets of black people in the inner city surrounded by whites.

I remember someone on this forum awhile ago talked about how this happened after integration

I could be off tho in my observation/analysis

Well, the Great Migration did work out for some people as the manufactoring sector had some big booms to benefit from even if it was substantially smaller than their white or immigrant white counterparts. Chicago was transformed by the migrations, as were D.C., NY, Philly, etc. Migration to work in a shytty factory for less than cacs still beat being a sharecropper in the south, plus all migration really did was spread black people out to many of the major or mid-major cities in the country, still a lot of black people down south tho if anything most of them prolly there.

The whole moving jobs thing effected everyone, like the OP said in one of these posts black folks just so happened to also fall under that socioeconomic bracket that was victimized by those actions. You could consider it an effort to make undesirables less economically empower and create a low end workforce to do the bullshyt or consume it. Its funny tho, was Garveyism and ultimately a lot of Malcolm's rhetoric too far ahead of its time in terms of what black folk needed to do that other groups were manipulated to attack them? Makes me wonder if someone today started talkin that Black Nationalism on a major scale if they might not be attacked in the same way?

 

[kuttykartel]

Well, the Great Migration did work out for some people as the manufactoring sector had some big booms to benefit from even if it was substantially smaller than their white or immigrant white counterparts. Chicago was transformed by the migrations, as were D.C., NY, Philly, etc. Migration to work in a shytty factory for less than cacs still beat being a sharecropper in the south, plus all migration really did was spread black people out to many of the major or mid-major cities in the country, still a lot of black people down south tho if anything most of them prolly there.

The whole moving jobs thing effected everyone, like the OP said in one of these posts black folks just so happened to also fall under that socioeconomic bracket that was victimized by those actions. You could consider it an effort to make undesirables less economically empower and create a low end workforce to do the bullshyt or consume it. Its funny tho, was Garveyism and ultimately a lot of Malcolm's rhetoric too far ahead of its time in terms of what black folk needed to do that other groups were manipulated to attack them? Makes me wonder if someone today started talkin that Black Nationalism on a major scale if they might not be attacked in the same way?

Too much truth in this post, breh!

 

[mc_brew]

This is true. But money talks and bullsh1t walks. We have enough buying power as a people to make businesses work for our dollars. We just need to organize. Hell, I don't even care about what you are spending your hard earned money on - $200 for a pair of fly sneaks or clothes? Do you fam - just spend that money at a black owned business instead.

We are a multi-faceted group and I understand we have intellectuals, street pharmacists, real pharmacists, lawyers, hood nuggas all under our umbrella. But....they can still participate in this movement. Certain types of people won't be so materialistic once they put stuff in perspective, but some will and that's ok too.

we're in a lot of agreement, i'm just adding an addendum to what you're saying... i don't think what you're proposing will have much affect without addressing what i'm saying...

i'm saying, don't just squander $100 every week getting your hair and nails did at the black owned hair salon... i'm saying, save that money and invest in buying a car at the black owned auto dealership... instead of squandering $30 a week eating pig knuckles from the black owned soul food joint, spend that $30 at the black owned grocery store...

i've lived in detroit long enough to know all the black owned barber shops and hair salons and mega churches haven't helped this community much... people don't move somewhere because there is a soul food place up the street, they move there because there is a hardware store, a grocery store, a good school, people who keep their houses up, etc, etc... i'm saying, let's invest in that... we don't have many black owned grocery stores and hardware stores and auto dealerships in our community... you know why? because we don't spend money on those things.... we spend money on materialistic things... that's why on just about every corner in this city you can find a black owned barber shop or hair salon, etc...

being a slave to a black man is just the same as being a slave to a white man... we have a slave mentality, this is why we live like slaves... i don't just want to change the color of my slave owner, i want to be free period... that means i have to think like a free person...

let's start spending money where that money continues to provide value to the individual black person as well as the black community as a whole... and no, there's nothing wrong with being fresh and showing off some bling... we just shouldn't make that the determining factor for our self worth... our self worth should be rooted in something far deeper than the gold chain we wear or the rims on our suv...

 

[Christie]

I'm enjoying this thread. (That's all I wanted to say)

 

[WaveGang]

Lets keep it 100...

MLK and others of the civil rights movement were willing to die(and did) for the betterment of the community...

Anybody who is willing to die for others is beyond reproach to me, because that is the ultimate sacrifice that 99% of these soft, dikk in the booty ass cats aint fin to make.

Lets not turn this into a MLK vs (insert favorite activist) debate

cacs was paying MLK to suppress blacks during the civil rights movement... where you been

No Malcolm X in my history text, why is that?
Cause he tried to educate and liberate all blacks
Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week?
He told blacks, if they get smacked, turn the other cheek

even pac knows the truth

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

cacs was paying MLK to suppress blacks during the civil rights movement... where you been



even pac knows the truth

2Pac - Words of Wisdom with Lyrics (2pacalypse Now) - YouTube

Makes wild conspiratorial accusation and proceeds to name Pac as a source...

Gotta love the internet

 

[WaveGang]

Makes wild conspiratorial accusation and proceeds to name Pac as a source...

Gotta love the internet

I'm guessing you need to go research who the main funders of the civil rights movement were/ why MLK was killed.

I'm not in the mood to get into it, you got enough juice to quote me so you should know.

 

[theworldismine13]

cacs was paying MLK to suppress blacks during the civil rights movement... where you been



even pac knows the truth

2Pac - Words of Wisdom with Lyrics (2pacalypse Now) - YouTube

hmm i think you are going way to far if you are serious, of course MLK is more enticing to white people, but i think MLK was just doing him, and again, its not that the civil rights was movement was wrong, the problem is that there was no actual economic plan beyond integration

but that was black people that fuked up and black people that have to correct it, if you start saying its the white man's fault you arent gonna get anywhere

you dont have to delve into conspiracy and insults to critique mlk

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'm guessing you need to go research who the main funders of the civil rights movement were/ why MLK was killed.

I'm not in the mood to get into it, you got enough juice to quote me so you should know.

Damn sure do.........