Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

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If you look at the population as a whole there hasn't been much economic growth for anyone. As they say the rich get richer and the poor get poorer

Dude average white household is worth about $80,000. Average black household is worth about $2,000. Anemic rates of wealth growth may be affecting all groups, but the effects are FAR more devastating to the black community due to the gross inequality in wealth from the jump.

Let's not play dumb friend.
 

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Dude average white household is worth about $80,000. Average black household is worth about $2,000. Anemic rates of wealth growth may be affected all groups, but the effects are FAR more devastating to the black community due to the gross inequality in wealth from the jump.

Let's not play dumb friend.

Black people started at the bottom. If the middle gets squeezed its only logical that those at the bottom will feel it worse.

That would hold true with or without segregation.

And I don't know where your getting your "average household" numbers from :patrice:
 

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Black people started at the bottom. If the middle gets squeezed its only logical that those at the bottom will feel it worse.

That would hold true with or without segregation.

nd I don't know where your getting your "average household" numbers from :patrice:

exactly. so if black owned their business and controlled the economics of their own communities, chances are we would have grown significantly more than other groups. How you do think penniless immigrants come here and generate wealth? The enter corporate America? :russ:
 

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while I agree with this you have to put an asterisk on that chart. Some of those races $$$ originate from their home countries and Indian's got those reservation/casinos. Some of those other races get grants that cater to them as well. There are no african american grants.
In my opinion that make the chart even more relevant. Immigrants even come in with an edge over us many times. Maybe not Mexicans I'm not sure about them but they have a stronger sense of community and support system than anyone and the fact there are no AA grants is a point to be made as well.
 

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It goes both ways. We'd be spending all our money within our own community but we'd also be limiting ourselves to only the money in our own community. You can't grow like that. The societies that grow are those who are able to reach the most potential capital, not those that isolate themselves.




Although I disagree with your assessment that we are behind compared to everyone, in speaking on where black people fit in to American society, you shouldn't compare our achievement to any other group because our experience doesn't compare to any other group.

The idea that black people lack the will to support our own is asinine. That's how we made it this far. Within 100 years we've gone from slaves to the President, and that's all due to black people supporting and fighting for ourselves.

And in every measurable way we've improved immensely.

The idea that black people are so bad off now comes from watching too much white media, YouTube and worldstar.
Media has nothing to do with my statements excluding the fact we own none of it. I'm not talking about the way we act, look none of that I'm speaking on wealth, money, out economy and communities our leak of businesses and influence in this country period. You said I can't compare us to others due to circumstance, that's the point bruh. We're behind due to our damn circumstances and need to find away past it. We wouldn't be limited to our own money either, other communities would buy in easily, blacks are immolated across the globe I know they'll get in on our restaurants, movies,music and especially clothes in a heart beat
 

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Obviously, has done no good.

Lol , how could begging your slave masters children and those that benefit of that ongoing system... ever benefit a people? shyts not even logical.
 

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exactly. so if black owned their business and controlled the economics of their own communities, chances are we would have grown significantly more than other groups. How you do think penniless immigrants come here and generate wealth? The enter corporate America? :russ:

First off the idea of poor immigrants coming here and "generating wealth" is much overblown.

Opening a convenient store to feed all 15 of your family members isn't a goal I would push black people forwards. Funny thing is all thee immigrants y'all point to dont look at owning a store in America as the goal. They look at is a means to getting their children in school where they can enter corporate America and build wealth.

And again you can't grow passing the same $5 around. The only way to grow is to invite outside resources in.
 

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It's true, we need our own country...being black is like being behind enemy lines for your entire life.
 

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Media has nothing to do with my statements excluding the fact we own none of it. I'm not talking about the way we act, look none of that I'm speaking on wealth, money, out economy and communities our leak of businesses and influence in this country period. You said I can't compare us to others due to circumstance, that's the point bruh. We're behind due to our damn circumstances and need to find away past it.
And once again. On wealth, money, economics, education, and any other measure we are much better off now than we were pre desegregation.

We wouldn't be limited to our own money either, other communities would buy in easily, blacks are immolated across the globe I know they'll get in on our restaurants, movies,music and especially clothes in a heart beat

Not if we took the stand that we are purposely segregated and only wanted to deal with our own. Why would they?
 

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Integration isnt the issue. The issue was our people not having the discipline to use this to their advantage.

Immigrants come in and practice nepotism and such to keep it within their race. They still practice social segregation during this time of desegregation.

We on the other hand dont. We still have many c00ns who dont keep advancing the black community as the main goal and would rather kiss up to racist whites than help keep the black community afloat.
 

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Integration isnt the issue. The issue was our people not having the discipline to use this to their advantage.

Immigrants come in and practice nepotism and such to keep it within their race. They still practice social segregation during this time of desegregation.

We on the other hand dont. We still have many c00ns who dont keep advancing the black community as the main goal and would rather kiss up to racist whites than help keep the black community afloat.
 

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Obviously, has done no good.

Lol , how could begging your slave masters children and those that benefit of that ongoing system... ever benefit a people? shyts not even logical.
If it was so obvious people wouldn't e in here saying otherwise. I mean it kind of is now but when you grow up learning about the struggle to integrate and shyt you don't really question it.
 

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It's true, we need our own country...being black is like being behind enemy lines for your entire life.
who is stopping you from going to Africa?
Black American culture is to blame for this. We are anti-intellectual and anti-education.

Racism plays a part but majority of these problems are self-inflicted.

We should have used integration to our advantage but we used it to accelerate our demise
 
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