Vonte3000
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nikka.....that's so far form the point
Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth
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Not just neighborhoods... schools, churches (and other religious institutions,) colleges, jobs, you name it. No one can look at the actual facts and say with any confidence that integration happened and then failed. What failed was that Black people were forced into a White market while Whites themselves actively and ardently opposed integration (this happened in many different ways, from White flight to the rise of covertly racist private schools to redlining to gerrymandering to real estate discrimination) resulting in a de facto segregation that left Black people without their own institutions but also not integrated into White society properly.
Vonte3000
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That's exactly why we were better off before it, at least then we were forced to be independent. Now handouts like welfare and food stamps are in the equation on top of many other things. Why integrate with people who don't want you, it's like trying to force a restaurant to serve black people, we should go off and make our own if they won't serve us.
You say that like things were significantly better back then, though. Separate but equal was a sham, as we all know- all the infrastructure for Blacks was worse than that of Whites because of racism, and would have stayed that way. There would have been no catching up to Whites in that arrangement. Real integration (defined as desegregation) does work, if you look at other cases around the world. But a lot has to be done here and now for it to become a reality.
Vonte3000
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American integration isn't the same as any other integration in the world, not with hundreds of years of laws specifically made to keep us under a boot. There is no other slavery case like the one in America in the world, from slavery days to Jim Crow to the Civil Rights Movement
Vonte3000
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88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
why the fukk do you think?
Vonte3000
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Obviously if I'm asking and made a post about it I don't know, nikka if you're just gonna troll leave, no reason to act like a bytch if you fukkin disagree with me just tell me why or get the fukk on
I thought HL was made for disagreeing and sharing info and shyt not having bytch fits
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Obviously if I'm asking and made a post about it I don't know, nikka if you're just gonna troll leave, no reason to act like a bytch if you fukkin disagree with me just tell me why or get the fukk on
I thought HL was made for disagreeing and sharing info and shyt not having bytch fits
Sorry, I must've forgotten how awesome segregation was for blacks. Boy I harken back to the days of yore when we thrived. Boy did we ever thrive. That's why after desegregation occurred blacks remained and still are to this day an overclass of affluence.
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Broke Wave
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While this is a bold thing to say, the article nor this thread offer any evidence that link what the author terms as integration and a gradual decline in black living standards in real terms, what the author would call "harm". I've heard this claim from many different sources and I invite any proponent of this line of thinking to guide me to any statistical evidence that paints pre and post segregation black people in a descending light in terms of real terms and living standards.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
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Integration should've been like it was in sports.
In sports black people had a skill/talent that white people didn't have. Eventually they came to us in order to profit. The NFL and NBA are mostly black even though it was invented by white people. Black people should've tried to establish banks. Even if they had to partner with a white person or people to give it legitimacy. And fukk integrating schools. Teaching and learning isn't about race. Black people could've gotten the same material their white counterparts used. Hell, they could've cultivated a better curriculum and set a higher standard to where white people would've been trying to send their kids there. But instead of trying to establish our own we wanted white people to share with us. That's a slave mentality forged over generations of blacks feeling subservient to white people. Even we the slaves were freed, share croppers worked white peoples land instead of pooling together and getting our own. At one point there were more black people in the south and whites. That should've been the civil war 2. But instead, we either share cropped those same slave owners land or scurried to the north to gain acceptance by other white people.
HBCU's had a monopoly on all of the best black athletes and sent many to the NFL yet you still had nikkas wanting to go to white schools. They still wanted to be accepted. For what?
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I don't think the concept of integration was bad, it was actually needed. I just hate the reason black people wanted it. I feel it was going to happen eventually anyway. Just like slavery eventually ended because we evolved as a civilization, segregation was going to end. But because of how it was forced for mostly dumb reason, we find ourselves in the predicament today.
In sports black people had a skill/talent that white people didn't have. Eventually they came to us in order to profit. The NFL and NBA are mostly black even though it was invented by white people. Black people should've tried to establish banks. Even if they had to partner with a white person or people to give it legitimacy. And fukk integrating schools. Teaching and learning isn't about race. Black people could've gotten the same material their white counterparts used. Hell, they could've cultivated a better curriculum and set a higher standard to where white people would've been trying to send their kids there. But instead of trying to establish our own we wanted white people to share with us. That's a slave mentality forged over generations of blacks feeling subservient to white people. Even we the slaves were freed, share croppers worked white peoples land instead of pooling together and getting our own. At one point there were more black people in the south and whites. That should've been the civil war 2. But instead, we either share cropped those same slave owners land or scurried to the north to gain acceptance by other white people.
HBCU's had a monopoly on all of the best black athletes and sent many to the NFL yet you still had nikkas wanting to go to white schools. They still wanted to be accepted. For what?
.I don't think the concept of integration was bad, it was actually needed. I just hate the reason black people wanted it. I feel it was going to happen eventually anyway. Just like slavery eventually ended because we evolved as a civilization, segregation was going to end. But because of how it was forced for mostly dumb reason, we find ourselves in the predicament today.
Even with all the faults of "desegregation" and white people actively fighting to place barriers on our progress. The truth is we are much better off now than we were back then. Still not equal, but isolating ourselves socially, economically, and politically, would have stifled our growth even more.
Prince Akeem
Its not that deep breh....
You got to love the fact that black people who never had to live in those times think that it was better during segregation. 
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The Drug War would have come to your communities either way. One can certainly make the case that the Drug War has been just as lethal, if not more, than anything post-1865, including traditional Jim Crow laws. Chicago for the most part is heavily segregated and the minority communities there are just destroying themselves due to Drug War after-effects.