Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

[Kritic]

It goes both ways. We'd be spending all our money within our own community but we'd also be limiting ourselves to only the money in our own community. You can't grow like that. The societies that grow are those who are able to reach the most potential capital, not those that isolate themselves.




Although I disagree with your assessment that we are behind compared to everyone, in speaking on where black people fit in to American society, you shouldn't compare our achievement to any other group because our experience doesn't compare to any other group.

The idea that black people lack the will to support our own is asinine. That's how we made it this far. Within 100 years we've gone from slaves to the President, and that's all due to black people supporting and fighting for ourselves.

And in every measurable way we've improved immensely.

The idea that black people are so bad off now comes from watching too much white media, YouTube and worldstar.

black ppl did not did not vote in barack. we simply don't have the numbers, money nor power/media to do so.
the black community hardly knew barack until white ppl jump started his movement.

even after barack sold out it wasn't guaranteed he had it in the bag. and other strings had to be pulled to pull it off.

on a national level having 100% black support really doesn't mean anything. of course it's good to tell kids about barack's story. but when talkin to grown ppl you know the deal...

and the white media doesn't really report how bad the state of the black community is. they're actually downplaying how bad it is. they're downplaying how bad it is for everyone.
as for worldstar anyone in my facebook feed that consistently shares any worldstar vids is taken off.

 

[Chris.B]

black ppl did not did not vote in barack. we simply don't have the numbers, money nor power/media to do so.
the black community hardly knew barack until white ppl jump started his movement.

even after barack sold out it wasn't guaranteed he had it in the bag. and other strings had to be pulled to pull it off.

on a national level having 100% black support really doesn't mean anything. of course it's good to tell kids about barack's story. but when talkin to grown ppl you know the deal...

and the white media doesn't really report how bad the state of the black community is. they're actually downplaying how bad it. they're downplaying how bad it is for everyone.
as for worldstar anyone in my facebook feed that consistently shares any worldstar vids is taken off.

Can't be blaming everything on the white man.
Black people are our own worst enemy in 2014.

nikkas killing nikkas in 2014 is the norm.
Black mayors fukking over black residents is the norm.
Black women calling cops on black men at an outstanding rate in 2014 is the norm.

Basically if you want to be successful in 2014 it's looking more like black people will fukk you over before the white man.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

black ppl did not did not vote in barack. we simply don't have the numbers, money nor power/media to do so.
the black community hardly knew barack until white ppl jump started his movement.

even after barack sold out it wasn't guaranteed he had it in the bag. and other strings had to be pulled to pull it off.

on a national level having 100% black support really doesn't mean anything. of course it's good to tell kids about barack's story. but when talkin to grown ppl you know the deal...

and the white media doesn't really report how bad the state of the black community is. they're actually downplaying how bad it. they're downplaying how bad it is for everyone.
as for worldstar anyone in my facebook feed that consistently shares any worldstar vids is taken off.

So many falicies here there's really no need for a response

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Integration was never the issue. Matter of fact, the black community would be worse off if it had never happened cause at the end of the day, the infrastructure would still have been supplied by a racist dominant culture.

We are psychologically damaged as a people...period. As soon as integration popped off, a lot of black professionals couldn't wait to run to the hills and rub shoulders with white folks, same goes for black patrons of businesses.

The movement was really powered by less than 10% of the community. The other 90 plus percent wanted nothing to do with it, hence, the mindset you see in blacks today

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Integration in theory was not a bad thing.. its just that white america never held up their end of the bargain... now given the history of whites this should not have come as a surprise... and perhaps blacks were foolish and naive for trusting whites.

However, placing fault or blame with the blacks who fought for change and integration is monday morning quarterbacking.. i dont believe they saw it as one and done thing but rather the first in a series of steps to progress. All we got was intergation and equality on paper.. that doesnt mean much in itself and that why reparations were needed. Thats the other half of the equation that balances things out cause blindly trusting white people to do whats right will never work. We needed and still need clear cut economic reparations to go along with intergration and civil rights.. until then nothing will change.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Not just neighborhoods... schools, churches (and other religious institutions,) colleges, jobs, you name it. No one can look at the actual facts and say with any confidence that integration happened and then failed. What failed was that Black people were forced into a White market while Whites themselves actively and ardently opposed integration (this happened in many different ways, from White flight to the rise of covertly racist private schools to redlining to gerrymandering to real estate discrimination) resulting in a de facto segregation that left Black people without their own institutions but also not integrated into White society properly.

I'm surprised at how often I see the argument presented in the OP pushed around here. People on this site really be stanning de jure segregation.

 

[Vonte3000]

I think we must ask the obvious question, was MLK a CIA plant?

- Pushed the "look to jesus to save us from white supremacy" narrative
- Promoted Integration as opposed to truly equal segregation
- Pushed the "all white people's ain't bad" message as opposed to the "stay the fukk away from white people" message Malcolm preached.
- Apparently may have been fukking white women on the low.
- Hung with known scum bags like Jesse Jackson

We need to sort the integration thing out first bruh

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I think we must ask the obvious question, was MLK a CIA plant?

- Pushed the "look to jesus to save us from white supremacy" narrative
- Promoted Integration as opposed to truly equal segregation
- Pushed the "all white people's ain't bad" message as opposed to the "stay the fukk away from white people" message Malcolm preached.
- Apparently may have been fukking white women on the low.
- Hung with known scum bags like Jesse Jackson

You're an idiot.

 

[Vonte3000]

I'm surprised at how often I see the argument presented in the OP pushed around here. People on this site really be stanning de jure segregation.

Did you even fukking READ the OP?!?? I'm positive most of you didn't read shyt. I'm gonna have to fukkin spell out the articles and video points in my first point for you people

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Did you even fukking READ the OP?!?? I'm positive most of you didn't read shyt. I'm gonna have to fukkin spell out the articles and video points in my first point for you people

I did, and you need to stop getting emotional because the article you posted sucks. Your thread title literally says "integration has done more harm than good," so what do expect people to say when you post a loaded statement like that that is unsupported by empirical data?

The statistics about black wealth over time are noteworthy for discussion obviously, but where this argument fails is when you attempt to draw a causative link with the end of de jure segregation.

 

[Vonte3000]

I did, and you need to stop getting emotional because the article you posted sucks. Your thread title literally says "integration has done more harm than good," so what do expect people to say when you post a loaded statement like that that is unsupported by empirical data?

The statistics about black wealth over time are noteworthy for discussion obviously, but where this argument fails is when you attempt to draw a causative link with the end of de jure segregation.

I posted 2 articles and a video but you wouldn't know would you....

Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth
SO you just gone ignore that part I guess, the entire fukking focus of the article.....

I'm emotional because you dipshyts read the thread title then comment and don't even watch the video or read the articles fully it's insane.

 

[Chris.B]

Integration in theory was not a bad thing.. its just that white america never held up their end of the bargain... now given the history of whites this should not have come as a surprise... and perhaps blacks were foolish and naive for trusting whites.

However, placing fault or blame with the blacks who fought for change and integration is monday morning quarterbacking.. i dont believe they saw it as one and done thing but rather the first in a series of steps to progress. All we got was intergation and equality on paper.. that doesnt mean much in itself and that why reparations were needed. Thats the other half of the equation that balances things out cause blindly trusting white people to do whats right will never work. We needed and still need clear cut economic reparations to go along with intergration and civil rights.. until then nothing will change.

The stats clearly show blacks are the ones refusing to hold their end of the bargain.
How many scholarships and grant programs are there for smart minorities?
Companies are forced to hire minorities as well...Most black people in America are anti-intellectual/academia.

Everyone is looking to be a baller or a rapper. Education is secondary.
The nerdy black kid is made fun of and the thug who just got out of jail is celebrated.

There is your problem. Unless the underlined issue is addressed the demise will keep on accelerating.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth
SO you just gone ignore that part I guess, the entire fukking focus of the article.....

I'm emotional because you dipshyts read the thread title then comment and don't even watch the video or read the articles fully it's insane.

My post was 3 sentences. You apparently only read the first 2. And you're histrionically typing in oversized fonts. We're done talking.

 

[Vonte3000]

My post was 3 sentences. You apparently only read the first 2. And you're histrionically typing in oversized fonts. We're done talking.

I don't know why the font did that on the second part if I wanted to type in all caps I would have but deuces

 

[Vonte3000]

http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/freedom/1865-1917/essays/segregation.htm

"Racial segregation was a system derived from the efforts of white Americans to keep African Americans in a subordinate status by denying them equal access to public facilities and ensuring that blacks lived apart from whites."

"African Americans did gain admission to desegregated public accommodations, but racial segregation, or Jim Crow as it became popularly known, remained the custom."

"Following the Civil War, blacks formed their own schools, churches, and civic organizations over which they exercised control that provided independence from white authorities, including their former masters. African Americans took great pride in the institutions they built in their communities. Black businessmen accumulated wealth by catering to a Negro clientele in need of banks, insurance companies, health services, barber shops and beauty parlors, entertainment, and funeral homes. African Americans as diverse politically as Booker T. Washington in the 1890s, Marcus Garvey in the 1920s, W.E.B. DuBois in the 1930s advocated that blacks concentrate on promoting self-help within their communities and develop their own economic,social, and cultural institutions. Ironically, one of the unintended side effects of racial integration in the second half of the twentieth century was the erosion of longstanding black business andeducational institutions that served African-Americans during Jim Crow. Integration weakened some black community institutions."