Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

[A Real Human Bean]

Integration is a factor but not the main cause but we definitely had more before it

Did you misread? The article states that blacks went from holding .005% of total wealth to 1%.

My bad. I see what you're saying but I haven't seen any evidence that integration was a significant factor in that.

What you should understand is that the wealth problem in the United States is much bigger than the black community. Poor whites, Hispanics, and Asians also experience stagnant and declining wealth. The causes of this have very little to do with integration from what I've seen.

 

[Kritic]

white ppl and even black ppl don't support black businesses.

white ppl: white ppl mostly support their own like everyone should. the few white ppl that don't care about who they do business with are not enough to keep black businesses alive.
a bad experience with a black business hurts the black business really bad. the economic ism is nothing to fuq with coming from white folks. they can make you or break you.


black ppl: most black customers feel like doing business with a white business is some sort of upgrade as opposed to a black business.
black ppl are cheap. you could have something that's worth $400 for $200 and the first thing a nicca will ask you is whether it's stolen or offer you $50. but this problem is the black community not having the economic power...

jews have money but are cheap too. like niccas it's as if it hurts them to give someone else money. like if you look at the tech companies they favor each other facebook buying up twitter and instagram.. all jewish ppl supporting jewish start ups. and of course they favor their kind to positions of power.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

And things aren't going to get any better.

We really need to consider, as a group, what benefits we are getting as "Americans".

I think we'd be far better off on our own.

I think the benefits are clear, but the motivations are not. Like my uncle would say, there's no glue to keep shyt together
Terms once deemed powerful and meaningful like "black empowerment," "black independence," and "black power" are no longer motives to spark action among black folks in various tax brackets. They have been skewed to be viewed as "anti-white," "smart dumb nikka jargon," and "militant"

Now once you add into this discussion, religion, reward system for "good blacks", and the strive for the american dream, it's easy to lose the focus and motivations to provoke and sustain action

Best solution to this problem is for individuals to separate their personal beliefs for the better good. Meaning that your political and religious affiliation shouldn't keep you from willing towards building wealth and pushing a Black empowerment agenda

Also, your career goals rewards shouldn't include being the only black at your company or level of success

 

[ThatTruth777]

Nah Malcolm's approach was the only way we'd see Dr. King's dream. He was the one talkin Black Nationalism, control of black economics, building up the community, etc etc. Black people truly becoming equals at the table is better than forced integration with people that have learned to hate you for several generations and control all the institutions you depend on for further stability and development.

Malcolm spoke about obtaining true power. Not this bullshyt about friendship and being able to eat at the same fukking restaurant, that's why some of the educated black folks from that time period said in retrospect it wasn't a civil rights movement it was a consumer rights movement.

Yepp, it was the Islam thing I was iffy on but he was unsure of it too apparently

He planned to have a separate organization not even associated with Islam for the development of black america as a whole called the Organization of African American Unity. In the book, Malcolm X: The Man and His Times Paperback by John Henrik Clarke, there are bullet points and everything discussing it. Along with it an outline of a petition charging genocide of black americans to the United Nations.
http://www.blackpast.org/aah/organization-afro-american-unity-oaau-1965

 

[Snoopy Loops]

I'm not sure Malcolm had it completely right, I definitely agree on his idea of education about black ancestry. shyt up until my later years of high school of somebody said African history to me I would've pictured blacks in loin cloths poking in the dirt with sticks getting eaten by lions.

No excuse for me to have had that image in my head about my own people, but I was never taught anything besides the idea that blacks were unintelligent slaves throughout history and nothing else when really it was the opposite

Shoulda listened to Malcolm....

All that changed after Malcolm came back from his hajj. After seeing whites worship with everyone in Mecca, his stance on segregation softened quite a deal. Honestly I believe if Malcolm was still alive today, he'd would been called c00n or Uncle Tom for his new views. It's either you die a hero or live long enough to be called a villain.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

This is some dumb shyt, would you really want to still have separate bathrooms.

 

[DEAD7]

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

This argument is extremely short-sighted. Yes, black wealth is low (incredibly low after the most recent major market failure) but integration isn't at fault as much as the various economic issues we've been experiencing in the United States.

The author presented no evidence that would lead one to believe integration is the cause of the wealth situation in the black community.

You're full of shyt. How the hell is black wealth going to grow if black's aren't controlling and profiting off of there own businesses?

 

[The Real]

Integration never really happened.

 

[A Real Human Bean]

You're full of shyt. How the hell is black wealth going to grow if black's aren't controlling and profiting off of there own businesses?

I don't know what you're responding to here. My point of contention is that "integration" was not a significant force in the decline of black wealth. If you have some evidence supporting that I'd like to take a look at it.

And @The Real brings up a good point, as many neighborhoods are still quite racially/economically segregated even today.

 

[killacal]

This is some dumb shyt, would you really want to still have separate bathrooms.

Back to canada with ya c00n

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Back to canada with ya c00n

I'm Jamacian fakkit.

 

[BlackFruitPunch]

Shoulda listened to Malcolm....

Hey at least little white boys and little black girls are holding hands now.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Hey at least little white boys and little black girls are holding hands now.

 

[Vonte3000]

Malcolm spoke about obtaining true power. Not this bullshyt about friendship and being able to eat at the same fukking restaurant, that's why some of the educated black folks from that time period said in retrospect it wasn't a civil rights movement it was a consumer rights movement.

He planned to have a separate organization not even associated with Islam for the development of black america as a whole called the Organization of African American Unity. In the book, Malcolm X: The Man and His Times Paperback by John Henrik Clarke, there are bullet points and everything discussing it. Along with it an outline of a petition charging genocide of black americans to the United Nations.
http://www.blackpast.org/aah/organization-afro-american-unity-oaau-1965

Didn't know all that, I just knew he was separating himself from it before he was killed