India Strips Kashmir of its Special Status

[FAH1223]

Bernie Sanders set the bar tonight on Kashmir for all other presidential candidates and elected officials. In clear, unequivocal words, he condemned the actions of the Hindu nationalist led government of India, demanded the blackout end immediately and human rights abuses be investigated, and urged a UN-backed resolution that centers the will and lives of the Kashmiri people.

Truly phenomenal.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What propaganda? Show me.
And i did not ghost, im travelling now.
In chicago & aurora almost all week.
Also dude, when you reply your posts has toooo muchhh content.
Read posts that didnt get a reply, probably it will be your long posts.
Its too much, aint nobody gonna read that.
You gotta be more concise.

The first comment you ignored had just 272 words. That's a couple paragraphs. You call yourself an intellectual and yet won't read two-paragraph comments?

The second comment you ignored was just 228 words other than the fascist Yogi quotes.

And the third comment you're ignoring right now was 181 words outside of a few select quotes from the news story 88m3 posted.

Trying to claim you're an intellectual who knows what's going on while refusing to read anything longer than a twitter update.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What propaganda? Show me.

Right here. You've been caught:

this is not true, it's not the earliest.
There was a nuclear war way before this in India.
There is radioactive ash in Rajasthan India dating back
Scientists had found an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people.

Someone dropping nuclear bombs 10,000 years ago? That's some of the DUMBEST of all the dumb BJP propaganda out there.

Indians were flying aeroplanes, carrying out stem cell research and may even have been using cosmic weapons 5,000 years ago, according to the chairman of India's leading historical organisation.

Professor Y Sudershan Rao, the head of the Indian Council of Historical Research, has been criticized by fellow historians for comments that Hindu epics are adequate to understand the ancient world, rather than relying on evidence or research.

His talk was widely met with ridicule. But Rao is hardly the only Indian scientist to make such claims. In recent years, "experts" have said ancient Indians had spacecraft, the internet, and nuclear weapons—long before Western science came on the scene.

Such claims and other forms of pseudoscience rooted in Hindu nationalism have been on the rise since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. They're not just an embarrassment, some researchers say, but a threat to science and education that stifles critical thinking and could hamper India's development. "Modi has initiated what may be called ‘Project Assault on Scientific Rationality,’" says Gauhar Raza, former chief scientist at the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) here, a conglomerate of almost 40 national labs. "A religio-mythical culture is being propagated in the country's scientific institutions aggressively."

It's part of a concentrated fascist plan to push Hindu superiority:

Two Indian states run by the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party have recruited controversial Hindu nationalist Dinanath Batra to advise on writing textbooks.

In June, thousands of schools in Gujarat were given textbooks by Batra that claimed cars were invented in ancient India and told children to draw an enlarged nation to include countries including Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

Teachers at Batra's organisation say they want the books to be in every school.

"The lessons from today's history books are that Indians are nothing and good for nothing," said Atul Kothari, secretary of Batra's Shiksha Bachao Andolan Samiti, or Save the Education Movement. "The truth is that historically we have been a far superior race."

Education Minister Smriti Irani, a former soap actress, declined to comment on what revisions will be included in a review of the curriculum planned next year.

The last time the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party was in power a decade ago it began to rewrite school books in line with Hindu-nationalist orthodoxy.

NO ONE in the world believes that Indians were were dropping nuclear bombs in 10,000 BC except the BJP. That's pure Hindutva propaganda. No scientist or intellectual would believe that, it's idiocy. And yet you promoted it on this board.

That claim, combined with the claims you made about Modi achieving 24/7 electricity, combined with you caping for BJP in this thread, prove that you've been ingesting BJP rhetoric. So you better explain why. Are you a BJP supporter or are you just uncritically repeating their propaganda?

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Dude again too much to read.
But no i support no party.

So no BJP but ALSO FOR YOUR INFO neither Congress1

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Someone calling themselves "intellect" just said a comment where I wrote less than 100 words outside of quoting their position was "too much too read".

If you can't be bothered to read anything, then stop talking. Why should anyone read your 14,000 comments if you have nothing to say cause you ill-informed and won't read shyt?

Calls themself "intellect" yet claims that all of India has 24/7 electricity and claims the ancient Hindus invented nuclear weapons.

 

[Sukairain]

Someone calling themselves "intellect" just said a comment where I wrote less than 100 words outside of quoting their position was "too much too read".

If you can't be bothered to read anything, then stop talking. Why should anyone read your 14,000 comments if you have nothing to say cause you ill-informed and won't read shyt?

Calls themself "intellect" yet claims that all of India has 24/7 electricity and claims the ancient Hindus invented nuclear weapons.

Dude sent me a PM after my last post here asking why I was spreading bullshyt about South Indians having a fierce independent streak, and having a dislike for northern domination. It was the word he specifically used

I sent him a reply then ignored his reply back. You can't be an Indian and not know about it. It cuts both ways, they don't like us because we're dark skinned and we refuse to speak Hindi, and we don't like them for the same reasons in reverse. To say nothing of the politics. The founder of the DMK, the socialist Tamil nationalist party that dominates Tamil politics, had this to say over 60 years ago: "the north flourishes while the south suffers." (It sounds a lot better in Tamil because it rhymes) The slogan was revived a few months ago when Modi visited Tamil Nadu during the election campaign. His visits always gets met with civil unrest, protests and whatnot. Modi is public enemy number 1 in Tamil Nadu yet he's beloved in north India.

So I would just not pay attention to anything he says about India. If he is unaware of the north/south divide, arguably the most pronounced cultural and political divide in the country after the Hindu/Muslim divide, then there's likely very little that he is aware of.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Dude sent me a PM after my last post here asking why I was spreading bullshyt about South Indians having a fierce independent streak, and having a dislike for northern domination. It was the word he specifically used

I sent him a reply then ignored his reply back. You can't be an Indian and not know about it. It cuts both ways, they don't like us because we're dark skinned and we refuse to speak Hindi, and we don't like them for the same reasons in reverse. To say nothing of the politics. The founder of the DMK, the socialist Tamil nationalist party that dominates Tamil politics, had this to say over 60 years ago: "the north flourishes while the south suffers." (It sounds a lot better in Tamil because it rhymes) The slogan was revived a few months ago when Modi visited Tamil Nadu during the election campaign. His visits always gets met with civil unrest, protests and whatnot. Modi is public enemy number 1 in Tamil Nadu yet he's beloved in north India.

So I would just not pay attention to anything he says about India. If he is unaware of the north/south divide, arguably the most pronounced cultural and political divide in the country after the Hindu/Muslim divide, then there's likely very little that he is aware of.

Breh, I don't think "unaware" is the right word. Why is he so invested in Modi's politics? Where did he get the ridiculous story that ancient Hindus invented the nuclear bomb 10,000 years ago? Why has he posted stories here from Indian papers? Why does he call himself "brown-skinned intellectual"? How can he claim to have learned two Indian languages and spent significant time in three Indian states, yet turns around and deny basic facts about Indian culture and politics....that the current ruling party prefers to sweep under the rug. Look at how he worded his last message - do you know any tourists who would have worded their response that way?

I think we both know what is going on here.

 

[Sukairain]

Breh, I don't think "unaware" is the right word. Why is he so invested in Modi's politics? Where did he get the ridiculous story that ancient Hindus invented the nuclear bomb 10,000 years ago? Why has he posted stories here from Indian papers? Why does he call himself "brown-skinned intellectual"? How can he claim to have learned two Indian languages and spent significant time in three Indian states, yet turns around and deny basic facts about Indian culture and politics....that the current ruling party prefers to sweep under the rug. Look at how he worded his last message - do you know any tourists who would have worded their response that way?

I think we both know what is going on here.

I don't think he's a cac agent. There's no benefit to a cac coming onto a site like this one and pretending to be an Indian supporter of far-right Indian politics. Instead they would pretend to be African-American Trump voters. Also, as far as I know they don't question people who say something against their agenda by sending them PMs. That defeats the purpose of being an agent, you want everything to be out in public to put doubts into the minds of as many people as possible. I would be surprised if he wasn't Indian, based on this evidence at least. I'd need to know more about him and his views on US/western politics to think about what you've suggested.

So until then, I'd go with the view that he's ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about. Those types of people tend to be prime candidates to support far-right agendas all over the world. If you don't know shyt and don't have the curiosity to seek out alternative viewpoints, do your own research, and engage with people such as yourself in normal, civil discussion, you're just going to buy all the myths and the propaganda issued by far-right organizations.

The vast majority of Modi's base would be people like him. Worse in fact, because at least he's educated - a lot of Modi's voters are actually illiterate, and therefore they're never going to be able to question the bullshyt about ancient flight, nuclear warfare, internet etc. that the Hindutva fanatics spread around.

 

[BoBurnz]

Bernie Sanders set the bar tonight on Kashmir for all other presidential candidates and elected officials. In clear, unequivocal words, he condemned the actions of the Hindu nationalist led government of India, demanded the blackout end immediately and human rights abuses be investigated, and urged a UN-backed resolution that centers the will and lives of the Kashmiri people.

Truly phenomenal.

He's the only candidate.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I don't think he's a cac agent. There's no benefit to a cac coming onto a site like this one and pretending to be an Indian supporter of far-right Indian politics. Instead they would pretend to be African-American Trump voters. Also, as far as I know they don't question people who say something against their agenda by sending them PMs. That defeats the purpose of being an agent, you want everything to be out in public to put doubts into the minds of as many people as possible. I would be surprised if he wasn't Indian, based on this evidence at least. I'd need to know more about him and his views on US/western politics to think about what you've suggested.

So until then, I'd go with the view that he's ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about. Those types of people tend to be prime candidates to support far-right agendas all over the world. If you don't know shyt and don't have the curiosity to seek out alternative viewpoints, do your own research, and engage with people such as yourself in normal, civil discussion, you're just going to buy all the myths and the propaganda issued by far-right organizations.

The vast majority of Modi's base would be people like him. Worse in fact, because at least he's educated - a lot of Modi's voters are actually illiterate, and therefore they're never going to be able to question the bullshyt about ancient flight, nuclear warfare, internet etc. that the Hindutva fanatics spread around.

That's all I was saying. Not that there's anything at all wrong with that - I got love for a lot of your countrymen. It's just funny to see him say he's a "worldly man" who has traveled an learned all these things when he could have just said, "My BJP-supporting uncle told me that..."

 

[BoBurnz]

Also @brownskindummy acting like he always does, full of bluster and formatting his posts like he's posting on ***** while being woefully ignorant of literally everything he's trying to speak on.

Ethnic divides are quite literally open and obvious in India, anybody who doesn't see it or acknowledge it is a fool and willfully ignorant.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Damn you two are some serious dummies LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Me far right?

You know what makes you two say that? Indoctrination, you are both indoctrinated.
I say Modi helped the electricityty scenario, and that rhakim thinks I'm pro BJP.
It's the exact same things as me not believing the Russia narative and BOOM i'm a trump supporter.
This is just the, you are either 100% with us or with them scenario, that's all that it is to me.
You are putting yourself in a box by doing so.

Yep, i've stayed in India for some time as I had to work with Infosys & sometimes Tata Consultancy.
I've also stayd in Saudi Arabia and know the culture there too, it doesn't mean i Support the royal family.
I;ve stayed in parts of Africa, Dubai, all around Europe, lived in the U.S. but quite recently I moved to Canada.

Oh and speaking about Canada, read this about why I left, scroll down for the continueed posts just the OP.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-...t-has-been-4-months-now-since-i-moved.639496/

Does any of that sound far right to you?
And one of you mentioned hindutva, lol im a hardcore agnostic & not even hindu lol.
I dont know if god exists or not, & if he does i would not worship him, ive said that countless times on this board.

And @Rhakim your posts are too long.
You said lol at someone with intellect in his name can't read long posts.
It's not laziness man, reading is my first love since I was like 9.
But i'm often travelling and working, it's my schedule not lack of interest to read.
And not only me, everyone has a busy life so your posts are often too long for anyone.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And @Rhakim your posts are too long.
You said lol at someone with intellect in his name can't read long posts.
It's not laziness man, reading is my first love since I was like 9.
But i'm often travelling and working, it's my schedule not lack of interest to read.
And not only me, everyone has a busy life so your posts are often too long for anyone.

You just typed a 286 word comment that added no knowledge, it was just a bunch of self-justification.

Most of my comments you complained about were less than 286 words. It takes far less time to read a 200-word comment then to write a 300-word comment, especially if you put any thought into your writing. You have time to write 14,000 comments on this board, time to write nearly 300-word comments of your own, but no time to read opposing viewpoints when people are actually trying to educate you.

And it shows.

Damn you two are some serious dummies LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Me far right?

You know what makes you two say that? Indoctrination, you are both indoctrinated.
I say Modi helped the electricityty scenario, and that rhakim thinks I'm pro BJP.
It's the exact same things as me not believing the Russia narative and BOOM i'm a trump supporter.
This is just the, you are either 100% with us or with them scenario, that's all that it is to me.
You are putting yourself in a box by doing so.

Yep, i've stayed in India for some time as I had to work with Infosys & sometimes Tata Consultancy.
I've also stayd in Saudi Arabia and know the culture there too, it doesn't mean i Support the royal family.
I;ve stayed in parts of Africa, Dubai, all around Europe, lived in the U.S. but quite recently I moved to Canada.

Oh and speaking about Canada, read this about why I left, scroll down for the continueed posts just the OP.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-...t-has-been-4-months-now-since-i-moved.639496/

Does any of that sound far right to you?
And one of you mentioned hindutva, lol im a hardcore agnostic & not even hindu lol.
I dont know if god exists or not, & if he does i would not worship him, ive said that countless times on this board.

Plenty of the founding fathers of the BJP were agnostic as well as their current supporters.

You didn't say, "Modi helped the electricity scenario", you claimed that he had made a massive difference that had brought 24/7 electricity to everyone and THAT was the reason for his popularity, not nationalism. That's so far off the truth it's dumbfounding.

And you claimed that India had nuclear warfare 10,000 years ago, an entirely insane theory that is ONLY pushed by Hindutva proponents.

You claimed that BJP wasn't inclined towards fascism, then when I mentioned the propaganda, Yogi, the anti-Muslim elements, you deflected and claimed I was a Muslim.

So from what I gather you're an Indian-origin agnostic of Sikh family background who parrots BJP talking points, right?

And who do you think could have "indoctrinated" me?

 

[Xcoyote]

Bernie Sanders set the bar tonight on Kashmir for all other presidential candidates and elected officials. In clear, unequivocal words, he condemned the actions of the Hindu nationalist led government of India, demanded the blackout end immediately and human rights abuses be investigated, and urged a UN-backed resolution that centers the will and lives of the Kashmiri people.

Truly phenomenal.

They gonna try to kill him at some point

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

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