India Strips Kashmir of its Special Status

[Json]

Because if the government gives Kashmir up, they give the whole damn union up. One of the things foreigners don't often realise about India is that it's a union of dozens of essentially separate cultures, ethnicities and language groups, which can and prior to independence in 1947 did function as separate nations with separate governments and rulers. India is a country, but it is also a union and not all that different from the EU in terms of how diverse it is.

In previous decades there have been powerful separatist movements in the country's west, east, and south, respectively. The Khalistan movement in western India was crushed by brutal military force - in the aftermath of which Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her own security detail, who were Punjabis and killed her in retaliation. The ongoing Naxalite Maoist insurgency in eastern India is also de facto fighting a guerrilla war against the government. From what I know the Naxalites are losing and have been for some time, but they're still around.

Finally in the south there was and is extreme resentment of the cultural chauvinism of the north. We fukking detest the federal government's imposition of the Hindi language, spoken by most Indians, to a land where it does not belong in the south. We hate how our rich culture and history is constantly marginalized and ignored by the north, and resent it all the more because our cultures and lifestyles in the south are far far closer to how things were done in ancient India - we preserve and maintain what the north claims is its alone, although they make no effort to keep it alive. And in the south our politics is far far more left wing to politics in the north. The BJP has never won a single seat in the two southernmost Indian states. The INC barely manages to win one seat per election in the same states. Instead those two states are dominated by four parties: the Communist Party of India, Communist Party of India (Marxist), DMK and ADMK, which are two left-wing socialist Tamil nationalist parties. We don't have any of the social problems of the north - the poverty, the sex ratio and abortion of female fetuses, the rape, the illiteracy, the public defecation, the sectarian violence between Hindus and Muslims, and the violence and discrimination between Hindu castes. Our people are by far the best educated in the country, our economies are two of the strongest in the country, and our population isn't even 10% of the total national population. And on top of everything, we are the darkest skinned Indian people and we face racial discrimination/colourism in the northern states because of our skin.

To bring it back to Kashmir, if Kashmir is granted independence and secedes from the union, the whole thing is in deep trouble because everybody will demand to leave the union. Kashmiris are not the only Indians with powerful and deep-seated reasons to strive for independence. At the end of the day despite all our tensions between each other, we are stronger together as a military force and an economic force. The British conquered us because we were a region of dozens of small country. If a foreign power is to never again enslave India, we have to stick together and pool our resources into one giant nation-state.

Thank you for teaching me something new today.

It seems like quite a few Asiatic countries are dealing with fractured, regional conflicts.

 

[FAH1223]

Because if the government gives Kashmir up, they give the whole damn union up. One of the things foreigners don't often realise about India is that it's a union of dozens of essentially separate cultures, ethnicities and language groups, which can and prior to independence in 1947 did function as separate nations with separate governments and rulers. India is a country, but it is also a union and not all that different from the EU in terms of how diverse it is.

In previous decades there have been powerful separatist movements in the country's west, east, and south, respectively. The Khalistan movement in western India was crushed by brutal military force - in the aftermath of which Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her own security detail, who were Punjabis and killed her in retaliation. The ongoing Naxalite Maoist insurgency in eastern India is also de facto fighting a guerrilla war against the government. From what I know the Naxalites are losing and have been for some time, but they're still around.

Finally in the south there was and is extreme resentment of the cultural chauvinism of the north. We fukking detest the federal government's imposition of the Hindi language, spoken by most Indians, to a land where it does not belong in the south. We hate how our rich culture and history is constantly marginalized and ignored by the north, and resent it all the more because our cultures and lifestyles in the south are far far closer to how things were done in ancient India - we preserve and maintain what the north claims is its alone, although they make no effort to keep it alive. And in the south our politics is far far more left wing to politics in the north. The BJP has never won a single seat in the two southernmost Indian states. The INC barely manages to win one seat per election in the same states. Instead those two states are dominated by four parties: the Communist Party of India, Communist Party of India (Marxist), DMK and ADMK, which are two left-wing socialist Tamil nationalist parties. We don't have any of the social problems of the north - the poverty, the sex ratio and abortion of female fetuses, the rape, the illiteracy, the public defecation, the sectarian violence between Hindus and Muslims, and the violence and discrimination between Hindu castes. Our people are by far the best educated in the country, our economies are two of the strongest in the country, and our population isn't even 10% of the total national population. And on top of everything, we are the darkest skinned Indian people and we face racial discrimination/colourism in the northern states because of our skin.

To bring it back to Kashmir, if Kashmir is granted independence and secedes from the union, the whole thing is in deep trouble because everybody will demand to leave the union. Kashmiris are not the only Indians with powerful and deep-seated reasons to strive for independence. At the end of the day despite all our tensions between each other, we are stronger together as a military force and an economic force. The British conquered us because we were a region of dozens of small country. If a foreign power is to never again enslave India, we have to stick together and pool our resources into one giant nation-state.

When I went to India in 2016, I observed and heard all of the same things. I wish I spent more time in the south. I was in Delhi and surrounding areas most of my time there.

 

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Pakistan downgrades diplomatic ties, suspends trade with India over Kashmir - CNN

India arrests more than 500 in Kashmir as Pakistan suspends railway

Pakistan Runs Out of Options as India Tightens Grip on Kashmir

India Revokes Kashmir’s Special Status, Raising Fears of Unrest


Sounds like India is going to go full on ethnic cleansing mode

 

[Json]

So what’s the end game here?


Military occupation?
Take over Kashmir land for Indians?
Going all the way to Pakistani controlled areas?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[88m3]

India’s Move in Kashmir: More Than 2,000 Rounded Up With No Recourse

 

[88m3]

Washington Post
August 26 at 5:00 PM ·
More than 30 million people in the state of Assam have undergone a citizenship test aimed at identifying immigrants there illegally.


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A crackdown in India on suspected illegal immigrants could leave millions stateless
More than 30 million people in the state of Assam have undergone a citizenship test aimed at identifying immigrants there illegally.



@Rhakim step 2?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Washington Post
August 26 at 5:00 PM ·
More than 30 million people in the state of Assam have undergone a citizenship test aimed at identifying immigrants there illegally.


About this website

WASHINGTONPOST.COM

A crackdown in India on suspected illegal immigrants could leave millions stateless
More than 30 million people in the state of Assam have undergone a citizenship test aimed at identifying immigrants there illegally.



@Rhakim step 2?

Imagine if Steve King-style White Nationalism became the accepted driving agenda of the entire Republican Party, then imagine every White person other than the radicals joined it, so Democrats were just minorities and a few SJWs. That's the atmosphere in India right now.

I was talking to one of our partners in India, this is a liberal 35yo guy who rejects religion completely and eats anything. He's out there running an education NGO. And he voted for the BJP. I thought he was joking the first three times he said it, but he really did. He says all Muslim refugees should be kicked out of the country and claims Muslims are going to take over the country cause their birth rates are higher. (Hindus are over 70% of the population, Muslims are 15%). And this is a secular liberal talking.

 

[BoBurnz]

When I went to India in 2016, I observed and heard all of the same things. I wish I spent more time in the south. I was in Delhi and surrounding areas most of my time there.

I rode with some Keralan communists when I was there a few months ago for a homies wedding and they're some of the chillest people I've ever met. The South is in every imaginable way an entirely different society and country. Which is why it's no surprise that Kerala is the best run state in the country. They have a healthy competitive streak against the national congress as a state party.

 

[BoBurnz]

Imagine if Steve King-style White Nationalism became the accepted driving agenda of the entire Republican Party, then imagine every White person other than the radicals joined it, so Democrats were just minorities and a few SJWs. That's the atmosphere in India right now.

I was talking to one of our partners in India, this is a liberal 35yo guy who rejects religion completely and eats anything. He's out there running an education NGO. And he voted for the BJP. I thought he was joking the first three times he said it, but he really did. He says all Muslim refugees should be kicked out of the country and claims Muslims are going to take over the country cause their birth rates are higher. (Hindus are over 70% of the population, Muslims are 15%). And this is a secular liberal talking.

What you're describing here is literally how fascism forms itself. Your acquaintance is well on his way to end stage radicalization and acceptance of fascistic ethnic policy.

Modi is the leader I fear most in the entire world as creating a true fascist government, and in a country as powerful and unstable as India that's just begging for disaster.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Imagine if Steve King-style White Nationalism became the accepted driving agenda of the entire Republican Party, then imagine every White person other than the radicals joined it, so Democrats were just minorities and a few SJWs. That's the atmosphere in India right now.

I was talking to one of our partners in India, this is a liberal 35yo guy who rejects religion completely and eats anything. He's out there running an education NGO. And he voted for the BJP. I thought he was joking the first three times he said it, but he really did. He says all Muslim refugees should be kicked out of the country and claims Muslims are going to take over the country cause their birth rates are higher. (Hindus are over 70% of the population, Muslims are 15%). And this is a secular liberal talking.

So?
You can find a liberal saying the same thing from Austin tx

 

[Json]

So?
You can find a liberal saying the same thing from Austin tx

America isn’t bordering a nation that also has nukes and funnels money to Islamic terrorist.

If the average Indian feels that whatever is necessary to defeat Islamic terrorist is okay then you have a recipe for war with Pakistan.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

America isn’t bordering a nation that also has nukes and funnels money to Islamic terrorist.

If the average Indian feels that whatever is necessary to defeat Islamic terrorist is okay then you have a recipe for war with Pakistan.

Funny you say that.
America does not have borders with terrorists but is engaged in wars across the globe.

India does border with terrorists & is never at war.

So.... in other words, its all good.
Secondly you mentioned funnels money to terrorists, ya America too.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So?
You can find a liberal saying the same thing from Austin tx

Not sure how you want me to explain it so that you get the difference. I've spent enough time in both countries - it's not the same right now.

Imagine Trump with a fully compliant legislature and 80% approval instead of 40%.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What you're describing here is literally how fascism forms itself. Your acquaintance is well on his way to end stage radicalization and acceptance of fascistic ethnic policy.

Modi is the leader I fear most in the entire world as creating a true fascist government, and in a country as powerful and unstable as India that's just begging for disaster.

There are far too many problematic leaders right now to rank them, but just for the population alone the consequences in India could be terrible.

Here's another way they're pushing in that direction - the propaganda operation right now is the most intensive I've heard of for any "democracy":

There’s no stopping fake news in India when the prime minister’s own app spreads it

‘The India Eye’ – The Fake News Factory Promoted by NaMo App

NaMo TV "Doesn't Need Go-Ahead", Say Government Sources: 10 Points

Pro-Modi Twitter bots manipulated a hashtag at a record-breaking rate

It’s news...it’s propaganda...it’s NaMo TV!

Bollywood as Narendra Modi’s propaganda machine