I"m not an outkast fanatic. Maybe you have me mixed up with some other guy.
What I was saying is that a lot of legendary aritsts in Hip-Hop have benefited from catalog sales, which has skewed what we view as successful today. That is a fact.
Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" did not sale 5 million in it's initial run. "Doggystyle" did, but most of the records we think of as being sales juggernauts like "Ready To Die", "Me Against The World" "Straight Outta Compton", etc. . . were not huge seller s in their initial run. They went platinum, but back then only Snoop Doggy Dog reached that realm of 5 million like Hammer & Vanilla Ice intheir inital run
2pac & Biggie didn't get there until they died. Jay-Z has never gotten there
Outkast was perennially platinum rap group, which other than The Beastie Boys had never been done at that point. When Outkast was selling platinum in the first run of their release. That was a big deal at the time. Going platinum used to mean something.
They were a lot more successful than A Tribe Called Quest
The Beastie Boys did not "go rock" "Check Your Head" "Ill Communication" & "Hello Nasty" are mostly rap albums. Just because they did "Sabotage" doesn't mean they were making straight rock records.
Dude, the title of the thread is literally "
in the early 90's if you weren't street/thug/calling women bytches, you weren't popping -Kid N Play"
WTF is the deal with yall?
youre still tryna argue with me about some chit that I never said.
youre going on and on about these albums and their catalog sales. I'm not even having this conversation.
and again, I know how much these albums sold in real-time as opposed to catalog sales. youre not telling me anything
outkast went platinum under the laface/arista machine. the biggest machine in black music, and the industry/media was backing them HARD. that chit was not some incredible feat. in fact, they shouldve sold more. you up here acting like they were some semi-underground act or something. and there were plenty of rappers selling better at the time. even the albums you mentioned in your worthless catalog rant, sold more in real-time.
I'm not the person that mentioned a tribe called quest. you should argue with
@kingofnyc about that.
black people weren't listening to the beasties after "licensed to ill". they were selling to rock fans.
believe me, i meant they made teenage music NOT THEM BEING TEENAGERS
im damn near the oldest nikka on here & i knew back then they was damn near 10 years older then me
cause they were dancing for salt n pepa in da 80's
house party came out when i just started high school & ironically the movie was about 2 high school TEENAGERS trying to throw a party while (play's) parents were out of town
breh
you replied to my post in which my OP was a reply to the poster consigning kid statement of street/thugs/calling women bytches nonsense
i used 3 examples that disprove kid statement
the fugees, outkast & tribe - you replied on some 'i can name plenty of acts that were more successful during that era'..... which you never did (besides anybody on bad boy / death row or jay z) name these plenty of hip hop acts that was more successful during da whole entire 90's
with that said - you left out fugees (probably cause your fan of them)
yet went in on kast & tribe (probably cause your not a fan of them)
-with this nonsense of kast only getting big unitl dre started dressing like a drag queen
-with this nonsense of tribe having this different look from the early 90's to the mid 90's & you believing them to be on some gay shyt
why are you doing this? youre digging a hole for no reason.
they could've been teenagers dancing for salt n pepa. I mean, u do know that most of the stars of that era were in fact, teenagers right?
the fact that youre using that as your explanation, does nothing but expose you. most people didn't know they were older than run dmc & them. so why are you fronting like you knew their whole bio?
I replied to your wording, with you saying that outkast & tribe were amongst the most dominant acts in the '90s, when its clearly not the truth.
yes, you mentioned the fugees too, and I left them out of my reply because they actually were dominant. and no, I'm not a fan of them AT ALL. you dudes are the biased posters. not me. I give respect when its due, and call a spade a spade when need be.
I didn't say outkast only got big at that point. I'm saying they didn't start putting up blockbuster numbers until then, and that's not the '90s. they were big in the '90s but they weren't huge.
tribe did have a different look in the early '90s, as opposed to the mid-90s. FACTS. and that had nothing to do with me thinking they were gay when they first came out. it was moreso about the mannerisms and the suss chit. and mind you, these were my thoughts DURING THAT TIME PERIOD when I was a kid. there shouldn't have even been an argument after I said that. lol.
they dap me cause they both have the sense enough to understand i meant records (which includes everything they was part of & put out - singles / collaborations / producing / writing etc... )
you taking shyt WAYYYY too serious
why in da hell would i break down their 3 albums with posting the sales of them, then right after pdouble those numbers
I'm not taking anything serious.
I mean, obviously, theres like 24 hours between my responses to you, so obviously this isn't much of a priority on my list.
I'm just not the one for you to get over on. go find another sucka.
why would you double their sales right after posting them? I don't know. you should look in the mirror and ask yourself that. the transcript is there clear as day.
and even, if you were truly counting their singles sales, that's still not enough for you to jump from 5 to 10 mil, seeing that their '90s singles in general, weren't big like that.