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Louis Leterrier volunteered to direct the movie, but the studio favored Joe Johnston.

Joss Whedon made minor revisions to the script after signing on to direct "The Avengers".

Channing Tatum, Garrett Hedlund, Scott Porter, Mike Vogel, Michael Cassidy, Wilson Bethel, Chace Crowford, Jensen Ackles and Sebastian Stan auditoned for Steve Rogers before Chris Evans was cast. Stan impressed producers and was hired to play James "Bucky" Barnes.

Evans was initially reluctant to join due to the nine-picture contract offered by the studio, but agreed once it was reduced to a six movie contract.

Emily Blunt was offered the role of Peggy Carter, but declined. Rosamund Pike, Alice Eve, Gemma Arterton and Alexa Davalos auditoned before Hayley Atwell was cast.

Early drafts featured Baron Heinrich Zemo and Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker as high-ranking members of Hydra, but the writers believed they'd be wasted on minor role and should be used later as main antagonists.
 

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Jon Favreau was approached to direct the movie, but declined, while Louis Leterrier volunteered his services, but was turned down.

Joe Carnahan was in discussion to direct the movie before Joss Whedon was hired.

Zak Penn wrote the original script, and produced multiple drafts to accomodate the developments of the MCU. At one point, there were plans to introduce Thor and Loki directly in the movie rather than give Thor his own feature, as producers believed audiences would react poorly to the tonal dissonance between Thor's magic-oriented story.

Penn's original drafts featured the Avengers being assembled by SHIELD to fight Hulk, who had been brainwashed by Loki, before they join forces to defend the Earth from an invasion of the Frost Giants. When Whedon joined the project, he scrapped Penn's version and wrote his own draft.

Ant-Man and the Wasp were featured in early drafts, but Ant-Man was removed after his movie was delayed. Whedon still wanted to include the Wasp, but the character was ultimately cut for being superfluous to the plot.

Early drafts made Stark into the main character, but further revisions turned the movie into a more effective ensemble.

Whedon was the one that suggested that Thanos be added to the movie as Loki's benefactor.

Originally, Thor would use lightning to revive Stark after he falls back from the wormhole. Ruffalo improvised the scene where Hulk awakens Stark by roaring at him, and Whedon liked it enough to include it in the movie.

Early cuts were over three hours long. To scale down the running time, Whedon cut several individual bits of the Battle of New York and several scenes about Rogers' struggle to adapt to modern times.

In early cuts, Maria Hill being debriefed by the World Security Council about the Battle of New York is using a framing device that opens and closes the movie.

Robert Downey Jr. ad-libbed most of his dialogue.

Norton disagreed with studio executives about Banner's role in the movie and was ultimately fired. David Duchovny was briefly considered to replaced him before Mark Ruffalo was cast.

Morena Baccarin and Mary Elizabeth Winstead auditioned for Maria Hill before Cobie Smulders was cast.

The movie was originally rated "R" for the scene where Phil Coulson is killed by Loki. To ensure the PG-13 rating, the blood was digitally erased, the stabbing was shortened and a reaction shot of Thor was added to "break" the scene
 

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Tom Hooper was approached to direct the movie before Shane Black was hired at Robert Downey Jr.'s behest.

The Mandarin was originally the main villain, but Black and writer Drew Peace believed him to be a "racist caricature" and decided to make him a fabrication played by a drug-addled washed-up actor.

Early plots discussed for the movie including Stark dismantling a conspiracy to sell Arc Reactor-powered weaponry on the black market and Stark attempting to prevent the Mandarin from hijacking China's efforts to create their own Iron Men.

Originally, Maya Hanse would've been the main villain, but in further revisions her role was reduced in favor of Aldrich Killian.

Jude Law was approached to play Killian before Guy Pearce was cast.

Jessica Chastain was originally cast as Maya Hanse, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts. Gemma Arterton, Isla Fisher and Diane Kruger auditioned before Rebecca Hall was cast.

Andy Lau was originally cast as Dr. Chen Wu, an old friend of Stark's, but dropped out and was replaced by Wang Xueqi. The role was reduced in further revisions, although the Chinese cut of the movie had several aditional scenes of Wu and his assistant, played by Fan Bingbing, to cater to Chinese audiences.

Anthony Mackie auditioned for the role of Eric Savin.

Black's first draft for the movie was rated R.

In early drafts, Extremis was a nanotechnology-based reproduction of the Supersoldier Serum, but was later changed to a gene therapy procedure.

In early drafts, Pepper would've had a tryst with Killian. At one point, Killian would use his Extremis-enhanced pheromones to seduce her, record their sexual encounter and broadcast it nationwide to taunt Stark.

"Iron Man 3" was the last movie in Robert Downey Jr.'s original four-picture contract, and was written as a definitive end for the character should Downey Jr. not renegotiate to play the character in further installments.
 

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Patty Jenkins was hired to direct the movie at Natalie Portman's behest, but dropped out due to creative differences, and was replaced by Alan Taylor. Portman was reportedly upset by the decision and no longer wanted to be in the movie, but was contractually obligued to do so.

Taylor notoriously clashed with producers, as he wanted a longer, darker and grittier movie, while they preferred a shorter, more humorous and sci-fi-oriented movie. The movie was revised multiple times during filming to find a middle ground, and several scenes were cut. Taylor also hated the stinger directed by James Gunn, which he felt didn't fit with the movie's tone.

Mads Mikkselsen was originally cast as Malekith, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Christopher Eccleston.

Josh Dallas couldn't reprise his role as Fandral due to scheduling conflicts and was replaced by Zachary Levi.

In early drafts, Malekith was a more sympathetic character, and his backstory included witnessing his family needlessly being slaughtered by Thor's grandfather, Bors, fueling Malekith's hatred of Asgard and his obsession with plunging the Universe into darkness to restore his people.

In early drafts, Sif had a larger role and would compete with Jane for Thor's affections, but most of her scenes were cut after Jamie Alexander injured herself on set.

In early drafts, Loki had a minor role, but further revisions expanded his part due to his newfound popularity caused by "The Avengers".

Early draft also included larger roles for Jane's suitor, Richard, played by Chris O'Dowd; and Asgardian commander Tyr, played by Clive Russell.

In early drafts, Jane would be corrupted by the Aether and become a vengeful sorceress, but this was scrapped for being a "needless complication".

Joss Whedon did minor revisions on the script. One of his demands was the inclusion of a shirtless scene for Chris Hemsworth.
 

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F. Gary Gray and George Nolfi were considered to direct the movie before Joe & Anthony Russo were cast.

Anna Kendrick, Emilia Clarke, Felicity Jones, Imogen Poots, Teresa Palmer, Alison Brie, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Jessica Brown Findlay auditioned for Sharon Carter before Emily VanCamp was cast.

Kevin Durand, Josh Holloway and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau auditioned for Brock Rumlow before Frank Grillo was cast.

Michael B. Jordan auditioned for Sam Wilson before Anthony Mackie was cast.

Alec Baldwin was approached to play Alexander Pierce before Robert Redford agreed to join the movie.

Early drafts featured several flashbacks of Captain America in WWII to explore his friendship with Bucky and his Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, but they were nearly entirely scrapped from the movie.

Early drafts featured Hawkeye being deployed to capture Captain America after he escapes from the Triskelion, leading to a chase through the streets of Washington, D.C. that ends with Rogers and Barton fighting in an abandoned warehouse. Rogers gains the upper hand, and Barton alerts him that there are tracking devices on his suit before letting Rogers go while making it appear as if he had escaped. He would later coordinate the evacuation of the Triskelion and protect innocent agents from Hydra operatives, but writers felt he was superfluous to the narrative.

In early drafts, Sharon Carter had a larger role. To streamline the narrative, parts of her character were merged with Black Widow.

In early drafts, Zola would survive the explosion at the old SHIELD outpost by leaving in a robotic body, but the idea was scrapped as it "looked too silly".

Black Widow and Hawkeye were originally romantically attached, and Scarlett Johansson suggested the arrow necklace Romanoff wears throughout the movie.
 

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Peyton Reed was considered to direct the movie before James Gunn was hired.

Joel Edgerton, Eddie Redmayne, Jensen Ackles, Jack Huston, Cam Gigandet, Sullivan Stapleton, Logan Marshall-Green, Garrett Hedlund, Chris Lowell, James Marsden, Jim Sturgess, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Aaron Paul, Michael Rosenbaum, Wes Bentley, John Krasinski, Lee Pace and Glenn Howerton auditioned for the role of Star-Lord before Chris Pratt was cast. Howerton would reportedly be offered the part if Pratt hadn't won it.

Gunn originally didn't want to watch Pratt's audition tape, believing him to be wrong for the role, but was ultimately convinced by his assistant and immediately decided Pratt was the ideal Star-Lord.

Gina Carano, Olivia Wilde, Rachel Nichols, Thandie Newton and Adrianne Palicki auditioned for the role of Gamora, while Elizabeth Banks campaigned for the part, before Zoe Saldana was cast.

Jason Momoa was offered the role of Drax, but turned it down due to salary issues. Djimon Hounson, Brian Patrick Wade and Isaiah Mustafa also auditioned before Dave Bautista was cast.

Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler and David Tennat were approached to voice Rocket before Bradley Cooper was cast.

Gal Gadot auditoned for the role of Nebula.

Early drafts featured Richard Rider becoming Nova as a counter-point to Star-Lord. In further revisions, Rider was cut so Star-Lord could be the sole focus.

Early drafts featured Bug as a member of the team, but he had to be cut due to copyright issues.

Early drafts featured an appearance of Adam Warlock.

Ronan's soldiers were originally the Badoon, but their rights were with 20th Century Fox, requiring them to be changed to Saakarans.

Gunn originally didn't want to include Thanos in the movie as mandated by the studio, as he believed it'd cheapen Ronan's role as the main villain. However, he found an appropriate middle ground in Ronan threatening to go after Thanos and killing his lackey, the Other.

Early drafts included the Spartoi and the Nova Centurions.

In early drafts, Yondu would die during the Battle of Xandar.

Early cuts featured additional scenes set to "Livin' Thing" by ELO and "Spirit in the Sky" by Norman Greenbaum. Also, "Hooked on a Feeling" was originally set to Star-Lord's arrival at the Moragian temple to retrieve the orb.

Early cuts featured an extended version of the epilogue set to "Ain't No Mountain High Enough", revealing an elderly Grandpa Quill still hoping Peter will return one day. The segment was cut because several test-audiences didn't recognize actor Gregg Henry due to the prosthetics used to make him look older, and felt that the scene was too depressing.

Marvel wanted to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer in the scene where the Collector is explaining the Infinity Stones, and offered to extend the deadline for the rights of Daredevil so Fox could complete a problematic R-rated movie written and directed by Joe Carnahan that they were producing, in exchange for letting the Fantastic Four and their affiliated characters reverse. Fox preferred to hold on to the Fantastic Four, and a Celestial was used in that scene instead.
 
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Joss Whedon wanted Ultron to be the main villain of "The Avengers", but was persuaded by the studio to use Loki.

Whedon notoriously struggled to write the script and clashed with the studio throughout production.

Saoirse Ronan was approached to play Scarlet Witch, but declined, and Elizabeth Olsen was cast.

Dougray Scott and Marton Csokas auditioned for the role of Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker.

Early into production, there were plans for J.A.R.V.I.S. to become Ultron rather than the Vision, with Paul Bettany playing the villain.

Loki's scepter originally did not include one of the Infinity Stones.

Loki would originally appear in Thor's vision, discussing the impending cataclysm in the ruins of Asgard. This was cut because test-audiences were confused about the nature of the vision and believed it implied Loki was behind Ultron becomes sentient.

The studio originally planned to cut the heroes' visions induced by Scarlet Witch and reduce the segment at Hawkeye's farm, but Whedon convinced them otherwise. He was, on the other hand, forced to include the segment about Thor's investigation into the Infinity Stone, although it was later poorly received by test-audiences and mostly cut.

Whedon included the romantic subplot between Banner and Black Widow as he felt the Hawkeye/Black Widow pairing originally planned by the studio was "too predictable".

The rough cut was over three hours long and severely edited to reduce the running time, which included completely restructuring the final battle, which required lengthy reshoots and post-production.

An alternative ending where Quicksilver survives and joins the New Avengers was filmed should the studio change their minds about the character's death.

The original formation of the New Avengers also included Spider-Man and Captain Marvel, but the deal with Sony Pictures was not yet finalized and the studio felt Captain Marvel was best served being introduced in her own movie

Natalie Martinez auditioned for the role of Laura Barton.

In early drafts, Ultron would recruit Abomination to join him. Tim Roth was approached to return to the role before the idea was scrapped.

In early drafts, the Battle of Sokovia would culminate with the Ultron drones combining to form a skyscrapper-sized Ultron that'd fight all the Avengers at once.

In early drafts, Banner would reject Romanoff, as she views him as a representative of the stable, normal life she wishes she had, and he believes he's no longer entitled to. She would also trigger his transformation into the Hulk in the final battle by claiming to have lied about her feeling to keep the Hulk under control.

In early drafts, Rogers and Stark would have a more contentious relationship and part on less amicable terms.

In early drafts, Ultron was directly modeled after Stark's personality and his ideals were a corrupted, extremist version of Stark's own viewpoints about humanity.

In early drafts, the Avengers confront Ultron, the Twins and Ulysses Klaw at a hijacked Vibranium mine in the outskirts of Wakanda, which was changed so as to give Wakanda a proper introduction in the standalone "Black Panther" movie.
 

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Edgar Wright was originally attached to direct the movie, in 2009. Production was delayed so he could film "The World's End", and he eventually dropped out due to creative differences with the studio.

Wright reportedly wanted a stylized and completely standalone movie, unfitting with the tone and approach of the studio's other movies, and the mandated cameos by Howard Stark and Peggy Carter are what drove him to quit.

Adam McKay and Rawson Marshall Thurber were considered to direct the movie before Peyton Reed was cast.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt was the frontrunner to play Scott Lang alongside Paul Rudd.

Jessica Chastain was approached to play Hope Van Dyne, but declined due to scheduling conflicts.

Steve Buscemi was Reed's first choice to play Hank Pym, but was unavailable, and Michael Douglas was cast.

Patrick Wilson was originally cast as Paxton, but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts when production was delayed.

Matt Gerald was originally cast as another member of Scott's crew, "Sam", but the character was scrapped in Reed's revisions.

Early cuts included a prologue set in 1989, featuring a young Pym retrieving stolen data from a military compound in Cuba. Jordi Molla was cast as the compound's leader, General Castillo, but his scenes were cut.

Early cuts featured Scott retrieving the stolen Cross Particles from Mitchell Carson, but this was cut to leave the storyline to be explored in a potential sequel.

Evangeline Lily nearly dropped out of the movie after Wright's departure, and only changed her mind after meeting Reed and learning her role would be expanded.

Early cuts featured Darren Cross experimenting with the Cross Particles first before unveiling the Yellowjacket, and actively testing the suit himself to justify his insanity. The order of the scenes was rearranged in post-production to make the movie more dynamic.

Detailed look at Wright's pitch for "Ant-Man".


Scott Lang is an petty criminal who has been arrested multiple times and Hank Pym is a manipulative businessman obsessed with his legacy. Both characters were much less sympathetic than their movie counterparts.

Hope Van Dyne has a minor role.

Scott's crew is formed by eight different criminals, who all have minor roles.

Darren Cross becomes the Nano-Warrior rather than the Yellowjacket.

Maggie and Paxton have a larger role. Scott, Maggie and Paxton are childhood friends, and Scott and Paxton have always competed for her affections. Paxton was a petty crook too before becoming a policeman, and is much less sympathetic towards Scott.

The final battle between Ant-Man and Nano Warrior takes place during a high-speed car chase.

Reed's revisions added Scott's sympathetic backstory; Pym's more sympathetic characterization; a larger role for Hope; Scott's crew being condensed into Luis, Dave and Kurt; the Quantum Real; Ant-Man fighting the Falcon; the Bedroom Battle; and reduced roles for Maggie and Paxton, with Paxton being a more sympathetic character.
 

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MCU films that went nowhere


A Black Widow movie was revealed to be in developtment by Feige. In March 17, 2014 he said that they dropped it because a Captain Marvel movie looked more interesting.

Apart from Ant-Man, Marvel was planning on making movies about other lesser known characters like Cable, Longshot, Morbius, Moon Knight, Taskmaster and Power Pack back in the 2000 when they were associated with Artisan Films.

Andrew W. Marlowe was hired to write an script for a Nick Fury movie.

Peter Soilet and Drew Pearce were hired to make a Runaways movie, that went developtment hell. On October 28, 2014, during a Question & Answer session at a Marvel live event, Kevin Feige said the script for Runaways is what brought Drew Pearce to his attention so that Pearce could ultimately assist in writing Iron Man 3. However, the script remains in "Marvel's script vault" without present plans for filming.
 
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