You started this thread to debate the validity of the flat earth model vs the heliocentric model
The heliocentric model includes all of the visible universe
You are incredibly delusional.
You are literally saying THE MODEL FOR THE SOLAR SYSTEM "includes all of the visible universe".
This is why you are a flat earther: not only are you incredibly ignorant of math and scientific principles, you also don't understand what WORDS mean.
Helio= of or dealing with the Sun.
Centric= revolving or centered around (a particular subject)
Heliocentric= revolving around the Sun
Nothing in that definition says anything about the visible universe my dude. Heliocentrism is a part of the LARGER umbrella, Cosmology.
You just said the study of bricks includes the study of houses. No,
a study of houses may include the study of bricks.
There's a difference there, and it's an important one, and it's one you flerfs cannot seem to grasp. This is precisely why you love skirting topics to discuss other ones (other than the fact that you cannot actually answer anything and you NEED to run away from it, lest everyone finds out you don't know what the fukk you're talking about) .
You people conflate irrelevant things all the time, like how in a conversation about evolution, you'd run to trying to talk about the Big Bang, which is an entirely different concept and subject.
We are talking about the shape of the Earth. Let's stick to that, and branch out only after we come to a resolution on the SHAPE first.
I literally majored in electrical engineering at GT. You googled a bunch of garbage that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You have no idea how magnetic fields are generated. This is clear because you seem to think that there's only one way for magnetic fields to be produced, which is completely incorrect
Again, if you're going to try to flex your credentials, you have to provide evidence for them. I can say I'm an astronaut, but until I provide evidence of that, it's just empty words. Don't waste our time with this bullshyt-- nobody believes you. You are a music producer, and not a very successful one at that-- that's the only thing we have evidence for
Further, I didn't have to google this stuff-- I've been debunking Flat Earthers for years at this point. I have all my evidence at the ready.
And lastly, please provide testable evidence for how a magnetic field the size of this planet can be produced in another way. I'm clearly open to your evidence, but you have failed to provide any. You just say words. Get to
proving, my nikka.
You asked me to explain the movements of the sun and moon on a flat earth model and I explained it. Your response is to post how magnetic field's work within the heliocentric mode?? What does that have to do with my explanation of how the sun and moon's motions work on a flat earth model?? Are you ever gonna stop posting strawmen??
I know you're having a difficult time keeping up,
but I have been rebutting your claims. This is evidence that you aren't realizing that I have been doing that the past three months.
I explained how the magnetosphere is formed AND
gave you a way of proving it to yourself-- using a seismograph. Seismographs are empirical data, meaning it can't be tampered with by NASA. Seismographs irrefutably prove there is a spherical object deep in the Earth's interior, and we know what it's made of. This material and its convection causes the magnetosphere.
You see, it's not a strawman-- it's a debunk, you goofy dude. You made a claim, I am giving you evidence that your claim is FALSE, along with giving you my reasoning and the method for finding this information out yourself.
THIS is how you debate, and this is why you have been losing this debate.
I don't know that the compass doesn't work in antarctica because I've never been there. Neither have you so I'm not sure what you're talking about
But you don't have to be in Antarctica to know this information. I provided a video of a woman in Antarctica using her compass, proving that it does not work in the South Pole. Here it is again:
Have another:
Now, if you're going to question the validity of those videos because "you weren't there", you also have to question the multiple videos YOU have posted because you also weren't there in those. That includes that infrared video you keep posting.
See how this dishonest game you like to play bites you on your own ass?
Now you don't know how projections work huh. Whatever light source is projecting the sun/moon, are ALSO MOVING ALONG THE PLANE'S MAGNETIC FIELD LINES. Not a hard concept to understand
And you ALSO don't even know how MAGNETS work EITHER?? Wow. Magnets cause attraction AND REPULSION, depending on how they are CHARGED
It's not a hard concept to understand, but it's apparently a hard one to explain, because you can't and you haven't lol
And the only one that doesn't understand magnets here is you-- magnets can attract and repel, but it's based on its polarity. So, your position is that the magnetosphere is changing polarity, causing an inward and outward revolution of the Sun and Moon.
It's clear that you're too dumb to see the problems with this idea, so let me help you out: if the Earth's magnetosphere changed polarity causing the Sun and Moon to rotate outward from the center in North Hemisphere Winter, for example, this would mean the North Pole has changed its polarity (this is what "Pole" means in North and South Pole). If the North Pole has changed its polarity, compasses around the world would go ape shyt and become useless for half the year.
Another self induced L.
And WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I've ALWAYS said there was a center to the flat earth plane. What would the sun and moon be rotating around if there was no center?? Again, you're showing that not only are you not even reading what I'm posting, you literally don't know how circular motion OR electromagnetism works
This is getting pitiful
Lol calm your sped ass down and understand what is being said to you.
You keep claiming there is no model. But you're also claiming there is a shape, and that above that shape, a sun and a moon rotate above it . This means you should be able to produce a model.
Based on the time it takes the Sun to move in the sky that we can all objectively measure, and the fact that you believe the Sun rotates above a flat plane that has a center, THIS IS WHAT YOU BELIEVE:
It is the only model that fits YOUR description of the Earth.
- Flat
- Has a Center
- Day/Night Cycle
- Sun and Moon Rotate above the flat plane
- Antarctica surrounds the planet, like a giant wall
The only reason you run from this model is because it has been proven wrong. You stubbornly insist on the concepts from this model, but at the same time, you try to distance yourself from it because it has been debunked thoroughly and you cannot refute those debunks.
You are a liar. You know flat earth is bullshyt, but you have to constantly stand on this nonsense because apparently you like the attention. From what I can see, you are a conspiracy theorist, so you have to subscribe to this childish notion of the Earth just out of principle. But at this point, I think you have been convinced and are just saying otherwise out of spite.
You probably truly believe the other conspiracy theories though. There really is no other explanation.
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