If we are the "REAL J*E*W*S" What will that do for Black People TODAY?

[Dillah810]

 

[Cobalt Sire]

These are COTDAMN lies LMAOO
Spoken like a nikka that has never visited South-America and knows nothing of creole languages and ATRs in the Diaspora.

The African Languages and customs of the Diaspora are preserved in creole languages and ATRs. The grammar, syntax are African, because their ancestors created creole languages out of necessity being West-African and Central African language speakers.
The deities are the same as those Africa.

Again, the Diasporic Traditional African Religions are undeniable PROOF of the West and Central African linguistic and cultural preservations in the Black Diaspora.

Look at the Brazilian Census for race and tell me what it says. Not until recently did they start half-way acknowledging their Blackness.

Black Americans have Louisiana Creole, which preserved some of the African languages, so what's good?

The dominant religions in the Caribbean are Abrahamic. They maintained a small amount of African culture, and that's ok. That what happens in slavery. It happened to us and it happened to you. No one's special.

 

[Brehvity3135]

Look at the Brazilian Census for race and tell me what it says. Not until recently did they start half-way acknowledging their Blackness.

This doesn’t mean what you think it does nor does it have relevance to the practice of African ancestry

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Y’all keep dismissing the claim of being Jew as something ridiculous.


They are saying they are direct descendants from Jesus. Jews speaking against Kyrie and Kanye don’t even acknowledge Jesus as a messiah or the son of god.

Y’all keep taking this to business, politics, finance..

This is basic. They are jew because their beliefs tell them they come directly from Jesus Christ bloodline. This is what’s driving them Jews crazy.


Stop letting them dictate the conversation.

How can you be a direct descendant of someone who never had any children?

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Look at the Brazilian Census for race and tell me what it says. Not until recently did they start half-way acknowledging their Blackness.

Black Americans have Louisiana Creole, which preserved some of the African languages, so what's good?

The dominant religions in the Caribbean are Abrahamic. They maintained a small amount of African culture, and that's ok. That what happens in slavery. It happened to us and it happened to you. No one's special.

Dominant religions being Abrahamic is because of Slavery forcing those under slavery and colonial rule to convert. Systemic oppression and the echo of having to hide African Traditional Religions because ATRs were forbidden are the main reasons.
The Diasporic ATRs clearly are expressions of African cultural practices passed down from African Ancestors



Winti is the only Diasporic ATR that didn’t syncretize with Christianity while bein hidden to survive and guess what, it’s an ATR that unified West-African and Central African ATRs. It was forbidden til 1971.


Geechee Gullah people were isolated,
which is why they sound more like Caribbean people.


You’re clearly too uninformed about the Black Diaspora to have this conversation, because this is basic antropology LMFAO

 

[Full Measures]

the easy access they have to financial resources in the US be allowed.

Could you go into greater detail about this? I'm not you're wrong about this claim but I'm just trying to nail down exactly what they have at their disposal...

 

[Paradoxx]

What African Languages and tribes are in the Caribbean?

I swear some of you mfs….Haitian Creole is literally mixed with not only French, Taino and Spanish but old west African languages.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Spirituality isn’t defined to a religion.

That's because the term, itself, is ambiguous.

Can mean anything anyone wants it to mean.​

 

[RadaMillz]

There's no logic that would work on people who are allergic to the truth, let them keep cosplaying as the REAL [ native american, jews and so on....]
every attempt at bringing forward evidence of west african ancestry will be met with denial and deflection

me: what about most AA's having 80% to 90% african DNA?
them: DNA? it's for entertainment purposes, we don't believe in that white man stuff
me: what are you basing this on?
them: the scripture...
me: king james version? u do know that king james was a white englishman right?
them: king james was a black man

me: what about sickle cell disease that is heredity amongst african descent people and AA's also suffering from it?
them: well only 1% of the enslaved people were African



their commitment is admirable as much as it's sad, it's like they sat down and tried to come up with weak argument from every angle.

don't get me started at mexicans and guatemalans being some of the 12th lost tribes of Israel along

 

[ba'al]

me: what about most AA's having 80% to 90% african DNA?
them: DNA? it's for entertainment purposes, we don't believe in that white man stuff

Yeah this is a lie too. You actually have Israelites who subscribe to DNA. It's actually a poster on here @Bed$tuy who linked a Channel that discusses haplogroups and genetic markers.

Interesting youtube channel called "The Hebrew of Israel?" It's basically about tracing black people origins in North Africa, East Africa, and the middle East with DNA proof to back it up.

Sorry.... no cliffnotes.

 

[HarlemHottie]

You just named the differences

Whats crazy is the centering of black Americans in slavery as if it’s a phenomenon that only happened here.

Where are the black Jew descendants in Dominican Republic where black slaves arrived first in the new world?

Where are the black jews in Brazil where more slaves arrived in the new world than anywhere else?

Again these places retained more African customs than us, yet it all points to western African countries and nation states. Wolof, senegambian etc ie verifiable and scalable. Yet black Hebrew Israelites would rather explain something that is not even possible or loosely affiliated but not applicable to 99 percent of us.

This is self hatred, no other explanation

Lol that’s why it’s hilarious to see ppl disparaging them when they literally practice ancient African traditions daily. It’s the centering of black American in the new world as the zenith of Africanness when it’s really just another symptom of American exceptionalism

Something weird about how you keep repeating that same phrase. Did you hear it on twitter or something?

Its also weird how you expect us NOT to center ourselves in our own story... in a thread about a people who have so centered themselves that they got the whole planet believing they were chosen (aka "centered") by the Universal Creator of All Things.

Anywho, just wanted to point out that our lineage does, in fact, differ from that of the diaspora. There are a few excellently sourced threads on it over in The Root. From what I understand, our slave population tended to skew north, ie the senegambia and parts of the sahel. This area is known to have been on trade routes that would have neccesarily included many jews, basic history, no conspiracy theories or funny costumes required.

This middle eastern cultural influence is illustrated by the existence of vestigial remnants of muslim practices by the gullah and certain other cultural leftovers normally understood as "non african", ie, the difference between our music and that of the rest of the diaspora.

Picked kinda at random, but receipts within the first few posts: Refuting the myth that Black American music/culture is "Europeanized".

 

[Brehvity3135]

Something weird about how you keep repeating that same phrase. Did you hear it on twitter or something?

Its also weird how you expect us NOT to center ourselves in our own story... in a thread about a people who have so centered themselves that they got the whole planet believing they were chosen (aka "centered") by the Universal Creator of All Things.

You’re not understanding. If you’re going to state that somehow our ppl in America were of Jewish faith it would be seen throughout the diaspora and especially in peoples who ancestors arrived first in the new world. But there are literally no communities of this within the diaspora and populations that have retained their African cultural traits more.

We can center ourselves however we want but when it deviates from reality it’s no longer acceptable

 

[Contrefaire]

Just more self hatered and another way to distance yourself from "dirty" Africa

Yep. And IDGAF what nobody says, that's ALL most of this "we're the REAL Jews/Native Americans" shyt has ever been about. And of course to a lesser extent, putting distance between themselves and slavery.

 

[3rdWorld]

When White Jews pursue 100 year old Auschwitz German guards, what does that do for them today?

Israel began airlifting the OG Ethiopian Jews to Israel in the 70s to prevent Ethiopia from declaring itself as the Jewish State.

 

[HarlemHottie]

If you’re going to state that somehow our ppl in America were of Jewish faith it would be seen throughout the diaspora and especially in peoples who ancestors arrived first in the new world.

our lineage does, in fact, differ from that of the diaspora. There are a few excellently sourced threads on it over in The Root. From what I understand, our slave population tended to skew north, ie the senegambia and parts of the sahel. This area is known to have been on trade routes that would have neccesarily included many jews, basic history, no conspiracy theories or funny costumes required.

People on the edge of north africa had contact that those further south on the coast did not, trade caravans to and fro. What is unclear to you?

Not to mention the fact that many of them were also nomadic ppl who literally walked across the sahel, east to west, for literal millenia.

Ftr, i dont actually care about this personally one way or the other. I just enjoy history. But i do think a lot of AA history is purposefully shrouded in mystery, so i cant blame ppl for searching.