if soccer was the most popular sport in the United States

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lack of scholarships is what hurts the US in terms of soccer, if we started doing that, youd see a whole new breed of atheletes goin in
 

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no one said this :skip:

he is getting wound up by his own questions :russ:


if the system was overhauled today, it would take about 40-50 years to see the results.

More to the point tho, American cannot develop a system like Europe or South America. The country is not as densely populated a these other nations.

and Lebron is 6'8"

no matter what you guys continue to say, the sport is for people with a low center of gravity.

And you base this off what exactly?. :heh:

Dude you are a clown. :skip:
 

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Are people really stating that Americans wouldn't be able to develop soccer skills if the an infrastructure was in place similar to Europe's? Like we're all 'freak athletes' who get by on genetics alone and wouldn't be able to pick up the nuances of the game. US athletes are the best in the world and add in the fact they would be developing soccer skills on par with Europe, it's a wrap. Nobodies saying put Lebron on the field now and he'd be Ronaldo status, but if he were groomed for the game I don't see any other nation competing with what we have to offer.

No-one plays like SPAIN the best team in the world and what most pundits are callin the GOAT team of alltime. No-one does, nobody in EUROPE can compete with them at youth level either. Theyre so far ahead of everyone else, it aint even fair, even the 2nd best team in europe structure wise Germany is still a couple of years behind them.



People need to get over the obsession with Athleticism. When brehs 5'10 and below are makin 6'+ players whove being playin the game like the Spanish have their whole lives look like total amateurs, you'll see this whole But Americans if they playin their whole live would be the best is non-sense.
 

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That may happen in the UK, but out here we guilt people into playing for us :youngsabo:

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It's a mix of skill and athleticism just like any other sport.


And considering how big the damn field is I'd say it takes a fair amount of athleticism.
It's not reliant like I said. Look at the Spain midfield. Xavi, Alonso & Busquets. Not a top athlete combined. Alonso's probably the fastest and strongest of the 3 and those are not strengths in his game.

Spain also piss weak.

Like I said, there has not been a single world class player to come out the USA.
 

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look at cuba?...they aint got a pot to piss in but they have consistently produced top notch boxers because its in a culture that was passed from father to son....


sport requires skill, you can throw all the money at it you want but you cant teach someone to be a pele, maradonna or messi, it aint happening, you are either born with it or you arent, that kind of ability is the result of generations of sporting ability...

do i think america would do better if they took soccer seriously...let me put it in perspective they spend more on soccer than any of the african nations...and your teams are still crap...

We're basically talking about the same thing. When I say resources, I didn't mean money, although the USA has that compared to third world countries (for now anyway). I meant we have great raw athletes and a large population. But also we don't have competition and coaching to develop skill. An American NBA Basketball player is a good example. A kid will start playing Basketball at a young age, say 6-7 years old with his friends. Hours of playing will develop basic skill. He will also start playing in an organized league and get coaching to develop his skills and understanding, and not just rely on his athletic ability. When He reaches Jr High at 11 he'll have to compete with his peers to make the school team. The less talented kids get weeded out. When He reaches High School at age 14, He has to try out for the school team again, and the player pool gets even smaller. If he's a top High School player he'll also play in AAU Ball in the summer where the top players from around the Country compete. After High School He will get recruited to play college ball. There are 365 Division 1 College teams, about 90 of those teams play in top conferences. Of those 90 teams, the elite High School Players choose to play for about 20 of them. After College it's on to the NBA to play against the best in the world where maybe 5-10 players who get drafted each year have an impact. Through the players life coaching gets better and competition gets tougher. Iron sharpens Iron, and the cream rises to the top.

There's a reason you always see Germany, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, England(ok, maybe not England), France, Holland, and Portugal at the top. They have the love of the sport, top notch youth development/coaching/competition, have a fairly large population (except the Netherlands and Portugal), good athletes, and top leagues to attract the best players from around the world to develop domestic talent.

America has great athletes and a large population. But we do not have the love, youth development, and competition to get better like we do in other sports.

Hypothetically, if every American Boy Loved soccer the way other countries do, played it everyday, cared less about other sports, and had top youth development, I truly believe America would be a top 10-15 country every year at least.

oh, Cuba is good at boxing not because father passes knowledge to son. They put young kids in state run boxing academies where they eat, breathe, sleep, and shyt boxing. They are used as a Propaganda tool to show the greatness of their country, not because they love the sport, but because it's their patriotic duty. The Soviets brought that ideology to Cuba.
 

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lack of scholarships is what hurts the US in terms of soccer, if we started doing that, youd see a whole new breed of atheletes goin in
Scholarships? There's dudes all over the world playing professional football at top division clubs at 16.
 

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We're basically talking about the same thing. When I say resources, I didn't mean money, although the USA has that compared to third world countries (for now anyway). I meant we have great raw athletes and a large population. But also we don't have competition and coaching to develop skill. An American NBA Basketball player is a good example. A kid will start playing Basketball at a young age, say 6-7 years old with his friends. Hours of playing will develop basic skill. He will also start playing in an organized league and get coaching to develop his skills and understanding, and not just rely on his athletic ability. When He reaches Jr High at 11 he'll have to compete with his peers to make the school team. The less talented kids get weeded out. When He reaches High School at age 14, He has to try out for the school team again, and the player pool gets even smaller. If he's a top High School player he'll also play in AAU Ball in the summer where the top players from around the Country compete. After High School He will get recruited to play college ball. There are 365 Division 1 College teams, about 90 of those teams play in top conferences. Of those 90 teams, the elite High School Players choose to play for about 20 of them. After College it's on to the NBA to play against the best in the world where maybe 5-10 players who get drafted each year have an impact. Through the players life coaching gets better and competition gets tougher. Iron sharpens Iron, and the cream rises to the top.

There's a reason you always see Germany, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, England(ok, maybe not England), France, Holland, and Portugal at the top. They have the love of the sport, top notch youth development/coaching/competition, have a fairly large population (except the Netherlands and Portugal), good athletes, and top leagues to attract the best players from around the world to develop domestic talent.

America has great athletes and a large population. But we do not have the love, youth development, and competition to get better like we do in other sports.

Hypothetically, if every American Boy Loved soccer the way other countries do, played it everyday, cared less about other sports, and had top youth development, I truly believe America would be a top 10-15 country every year at least.

oh, Cuba is good at boxing not because father passes knowledge to son. They put young kids in state run boxing academies where they eat, breathe, sleep, and shyt boxing. They are used as a Propaganda tool to show the greatness of their country, not because they love the sport, but because it's their patriotic duty. The Soviets brought that ideology to Cuba.

fukk the athletic part. That's not of prime importance in soccer.


CULTURE dude. The English love the game but the culture is all wrong. Too rush rush not enough technical skill. Don't have the swaggering skill of South Americans, the patience of southern Europeans or efficiency of Germans.

The USA has no soccer culture or identity and for now the best they can do is the QF's of the world cup.
 

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nikkas acting like kicking a ball is like playing chess now. :heh:

nikkas are just coming up with all types of lame excuses. :childplease:
 

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LOL @ you getting emotional on a message board. :heh:

You are :flabbynsick:
:what:

Nah homie, Im appreciating your comedy. It's good fam, you got me here :laff:

I didn't know these new jacks had some quality trolling in them, but you proving me wrong. Continue. :popcorn:
 

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and Lebron is 6'8"

no matter what you guys continue to say, the sport is for people with a low center of gravity.

yup c/s

pictures of world class footballers all under the 5'7 in height

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so LOL if you Americans think you gonna throw LeBron and Terrell Owens built players and dominate
 

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To you athleticism brehs, let me tell you a story about your precious athleticism and I'm gunna take it back to Africa. Now your probably thinkin :what: this Cac on about, well if you shut the fukk up I'll tell you.

Ever since the inception of youth World Cups back in the late 70's and early 80's (Theres 2 age groups u17's and 20's) In the u17's Africa has a fantastic history at this level. Now you gunan say this Cac thinks Africa is a country :heh: :stopitslime: Let me continue. Nigeria and Ghana have 5 tournament wins between them at this level. You know why because Athleticism wise they are superior to everyone else at this level. Now some people will say them Africans and their ages, maybe, maybe not that was the case, but they still won, but the fact reminds they dominate everyone else with their athleticism.

Now we go up to the next level the u20's, where the athleticism isnt such a big bigger difference, but this is where technique comes into play and where athleticism kind of starts to loses its luster. Now if we look at the history of the u20 World cup only 1 African team has won at this level, which was Ghana a few years back, they've had plenty of teams get to the final before, but where they have the advatnage at u17 level, it doesnt transfer to the u20 level, because technique matters more. Brasil and Argentina dominate this level, why because of their technique.

Now Who is the best African Nation in the 00's Some will say Cameroon because of the Olympic gold medal in 2000 and they won the African Nation Cup 2x in 00 and 02. Is it Senegal who got to a World Cup quater final and they beat France, maybe, is it D Diddy's Ivory Coast, who have probably produced the best players in the 00's, or is it Ghana who also like Senegal got to a world Cup quater final in 2010.

None of them, because excluding Cameroon at the start of the 00's the rest of them didnt win the African Nation Cup, you know the tournament that proclaims the best team in Africa. Its Egypt, now before people go Egypt :wtf: they never made it to a world cup, thats on them plus the African qualifyin process is a mad one, jsut liek the Asian one is as well, and its always harder to get to a tournament than to compete in one. Well tell me who else 3 ANC tournaments in a row in the 00's they beat Ivory Coast, they beat Ghana and they beat Cameroon all in the final, 3 teams who are superior to them in Athleticism and have the better players but not so in technique and tactics.

The moral of the story is the higher the level you go the less athleticism plays a part and more technique defines success

But what do i know im just a racist Cac :manny:
 
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