If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

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sure she feels bad....:camby:...she needs to go the way of CJ Ross

NSAC Head: No Corruption, Byrd Feels Terrible Over Canelo-GGG

Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin did their part Saturday night to make their middleweight showdown a memorable one, putting on the kind of big drama show both had promised. They traded big shots and battled for 12 rounds, and when it was over they leaped into the arms of their corner men, both certain they had won.

That the judges ruled it a draw wasn’t out of line. It was that kind of fight, a close, tense bout that could have gone either way, but only slightly.

Unfortunately, one judge somehow had Alvarez winning all but two rounds. The 118-110 margin in favour of Alvarez by Adalaide Byrd was so stunningly off that it dominated the talk at a post-fight press conference that otherwise would have focused on one of the better fights of the year.

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Perhaps overlooked by those complaining about the score is that if Byrd had Alvarez winning by a closer margin, say 115-113, the fight would still be a draw and no one would be talking about the judges. It wasn’t that she necessarily got the winner wrong, but by too big of a margin.

Still, there was plenty of venom on social media and from outraged television types for Byrd’s inexplicable card. Golovkin also wasn’t happy about the scorecard in a fight he seemed to be controlling until Alvarez rallied in the late rounds.

The other two judges saw the fight that most at ringside thought they were watching, a bruising affair that appeared to be going Golovkin’s way until Alvarez rallied to take the last three rounds on all three scorecards.

One favoured Golovkin 115-113, while the other had it 114-114.

According to the head of the Nevada Athletic Commission, Bob Bennett, Byrd feels terrible about the entire situation. She is under review, but has not been punished by the NSAC.

“She is not under suspension or been reprimanded in any way. We had a debriefing after the event. She feels terrible that she saw it differently from the other two judges. She explained what she saw and she feels shattered. We’ll review everything in the next few days with the commission and (NAC chairman) Anthony Marnell," Bennett told the Las Vegas Review Journal.

“Adalaide and I will sit down and watch the fight and go over it round by round. She’ll articulate to me what she saw and we’ll move forward.
“She’s an outstanding judge who had one bad night. She’s a professional who always wants to get it right. She looks forward to watching the fight again and seeing what she missed.

“Anyone reporting corruption couldn’t be any further from the truth. Adalaide is a woman of integrity and a judge many around the world have requested for.”
 

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GGG stated he want a Mexican style fight. That's the coldest diss I've ever heard in boxing. Pretty much saying he want to fight how your people fight, but you didnt.


I'm a big Canelo fan and was rooting for him, but dude was running a lot. I can't give him a pass. I'm not made at the draw, but he didn't win.
 

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GGG stated he want a Mexican style fight. That's the coldest diss I've ever heard in boxing. Pretty much saying he want to fight how your people fight, but you didnt.


I'm a big Canelo fan and was rooting for him, but dude was running a lot. I can't give him a pass. I'm not made at the draw, but he didn't win.

Canelo fought in a way everyone claimed he wouldn't......he was out there looking like Canelo Cuadras with all the moving instead of Canelo Alvarez standing in the pocket like we thought he would.
 

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Canelo fought in a way everyone claimed he wouldn't......he was out there looking like Canelo Cuadras with all the moving instead of Canelo Alvarez standing in the pocket like we thought he would.

going back..there were a good amount of cats going gaga over canelo doing a lightweight version of what sweet pea used to do EVERYBODY in that fight with cotto..the problem was he didnt knock him down much less hurt him..how was that impressive when he was the bigger guy :russ:..this fight with GGG, someone is a little slower than Cotto, there was none of that shyt...at all..just a lightweight version of what Lara usually does...and i say lightweight because Lara never gassed out from moving around like that :mjgrin:
 

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GGG stated he want a Mexican style fight. That's the coldest diss I've ever heard in boxing. Pretty much saying he want to fight how your people fight, but you didnt.
but that shyt is insulting as fukk. little g keeps saying that as if every mexican is some stereotypical come forward brawler who lets themselves get punched in the face. dude is sounding like every floyd opponent from the past 10 years. that's what happens when you're so used to guys just standing there like idiots and letting themselves get knocked out. sorry breh....you're not on the bum tour anymore. guys are actually gonna make you work for it. you're supposed to be the best pressure fighter in the game but now you're angry that you actually have to pressure somebody?:dahell::mjlol:


little g says he wanted true mexican style but he remained hesitant in close quarters where canelo's counter shots were most effective. it wasn't until canelo gassed himself out and went to the ropes that little g would open up. and even against the ropes little g wasn't imposing himself like he should have. and that's why he refused to attack the body and that's why canelo was able to move around the ring at will. cause little g was always cautious in close quarters. I just went to youtube and picked a random round and made some gifs of when canelo went to ropes willingly. just look how hesitant little g is to engage. dude said he was gonna be an "animal" for this fight, but I didn't see that. I seen a guy who was very conservative and picking his shots wisely because he was nervous about what was coming back. canelo was just inviting him in the corner and little g still remained weary of attacking. so all that "I wanted true mexican style" is corny. dude flat out refused MANY opportunities for close quarter combat because he knew it would mean taking damage in the process. these are all gifs from the same round.



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when have you ever seen little g this reluctant to engage an opponent who's within striking distance?.....at these moments little g had every chance to get dirty and try to take canelo's soul but he just didn't want to make the sacrifice. he didn't want to put himself in the line of fire...which is something he brags about doing. what i see here is canelo daring little g to fight on the inside and little g refusing to do so. which was smart on his part because he can't hang with canelo on the inside. but don't sit here and cry about "true mexican style" after the fight when it was obvious you wanted no parts of a true mexican style phone booth fight. canelo was right there begging you to open up and you didn't want to pull the trigger. there's nothing wrong with being hesitant. that's a sign of respect for your opponent. but dude wants to say canelo was running instead of just admitting that he didn't press the action like he should have. but I guess it's easier to blame an opponent instead of admitting you didn't dig deep enough. no matter what him and abel say in interviews, they both know canelo had him gun shy.

this is what happens when you've been spoiled your entire career and now you actually have to dig deep for your knockouts. dude is coming off like a spoiled brat. just looking at these gifs, canelo was boxing circles around little g and it makes me very confident in the rematch. and i'm sure most people seen these moments and felt little g was actually doing something. but watch them again and you see he's basically landing nothing at all. and it was plain as day that little g respected the hell out of canelo's power and I don't see why it would be any different in the rematch. if he goes to the body or opens up more in close quarters, he's going to take a shyt load more punishment. I see him fighting the same exact way and canelo making the adjustments to get the clear victory.
 

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Canelo fought in a way everyone claimed he wouldn't......he was out there looking like Canelo Cuadras with all the moving instead of Canelo Alvarez standing in the pocket like we thought he would.
and little g also fought in a way everybody claimed he wouldn't. they said he would bully canelo and maul him every time he went to the ropes and stop him. how come he didn't do it though?


give me one good reason little g couldn't have jumped on canelo at moments like this?


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they both fought differently than expected because they both had a healthy respect for eachother. it's really not hard to figure out. but canelo is known as a counter puncher, while little g is supposed to be the fearless animal who's willing to take 10 shots to give one. but we didn't see that did we. we seen little g remain reluctant and give canelo all the space he needed to move. it was plain as day little g wanted no parts of canelo on the inside.
 

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The Term Casual has jumped the shark.

People use it and throw it out there to disparage another and I dont see why. I've boxed and have watched boxing for 55+ years. Just cause I aint all the threads and pop up during fight nights doesnt mean I know less about boxing than you.

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and little g also fought in a way everybody claimed he wouldn't. they said he would bully canelo and maul him every time he went to the ropes and stop him. how come he didn't do it though?


give me one good reason little g couldn't have jumped on canelo at moments like this?


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they both fought differently than expected because they both had a healthy respect for eachother. it's really not hard to figure out. but canelo is known as a counter puncher, while little g is supposed to be the fearless animal who's willing to take 10 shots to give one. but we didn't see that did we. we seen little g remain reluctant and give canelo all the space he needed to move. it was plain as day little g wanted no parts of canelo on the inside.


Who fought closer to how the normally fight?



GGG or Canelo Cuadras?:comeon:



Stop it breh:forreal:



You claimed Canelo was going to do this, and that, and stand right there and take GGG apart..........but he didn't. Instead, he was moving the entire fight and only stood still when he got tired on the ropes.



Farrrrrrrrrrrrr from the type of fight style you claimed Canelo was going to apply.
 

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Who fought closer to how the normally fight?
they both fought different. canelo moved more and little g was hesitant to exchange and attack like he usually does. like I said in my post. they both had more respect for eachother than both sides anticipated, which is why they fought differently than normal. it doesn't even need to be explained. it's pretty much common sense.
 

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they both fought different. canelo moved more and little g was hesitant to exchange and attack like he usually does. like I said in my post. they both had more respect for eachother than both sides anticipated, which is why they fought differently than normal. it doesn't even need to be explained. it's pretty much common sense.

GGG being hesitant to throw punches doesn't =/= him not fighting his normal style. He did fight his normal style.

He still came forward the entire fight, even literally jogging towards Canelo at points (because Canelo was moving away too fast), and fought the entire fight coming forward every round.

Canelo, on the otherhand, fought in a style none of us have ever seen him employ. We've never seen Canelo moving so much in a fight, he's always a come forward or stand in the pocket fighter. He wasn't on Saturday night. Where was the Canelo from the previous 49 fights...the Canelo who stands there and uses his upper body movement/reflexes to avoid your shots and kill you in the pocket?


GGG coming forward, with lowered success and hesitation on his punch output compared to previous fights, is still GGG coming forward and fighting his style as normal.

Canelo moving backwards and circling the ring, with also hesitation on his punch output compared to previous fights, is not Canelo standing in the pocket like normal.
 

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Who fought closer to how the normally fight?



GGG or Canelo Cuadras?:comeon:



Stop it breh:forreal:



You claimed Canelo was going to do this, and that, and stand right there and take GGG apart..........but he didn't. Instead, he was moving the entire fight and only stood still when he got tired on the ropes.



Farrrrrrrrrrrrr from the type of fight style you claimed Canelo was going to apply.
An you claimed ggg was stopping canelo but he didnt even rock him.

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No one talks about the fact that he didnt hit canelo win anything significant aside from jabs and that one straight right. People claim that piston jab was gonna do damage but canelo came out unscathed. Even when canelo tired in the middle rounds he was slipping most his punches and landing the cleaner shots

How the guy fighting at 160 for the first time land the more significant punches.
 

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GGG being hesitant to throw punches doesn't =/= him not fighting his normal style. He did fight his normal style.

He still came forward the entire fight, even literally jogging towards Canelo at points (because Canelo was moving away too fast), and fought the entire fight coming forward every round.

Canelo, on the otherhand, fought in a style none of us have ever seen him employ. We've never seen Canelo moving so much in a fight, he's always a come forward or stand in the pocket fighter. He wasn't on Saturday night. Where was the Canelo from the previous 49 fights...the Canelo who stands there and uses his upper body movement/reflexes to avoid your shots and kill you in the pocket?


GGG coming forward, with lowered success and hesitation on his punch output compared to previous fights, is still GGG coming forward and fighting his style as normal.

Canelo moving backwards and circling the ring, with also hesitation on his punch output compared to previous fights, is not Canelo standing in the pocket like normal.
I mean I was wrong about how much he would move. what else do you want me to say?:yeshrug:......I think he fukked up in that aspect, because he obviously had the upper hand when they were in close quarters. I think he just came with in with too much respect for little g and wanted to test his power first. but by the time he realized he could take little g's shots he was already exhausted. but even then he still managed to do more damage on little g than anybody else. I think now that canelo knows he can take little g's shots, he'll be more willing to stand in the pocket next time. that's where he had most of his success in the fight. and surprisingly when he was in the pocket is also where he took the least damage. little g was too wide and slow to land on him cleanly when they were close. like b hop said. canelo just has to focus on the body for the first 5 rounds or so and everything else will fall into place. I was actually surprised how easily he got to little g's body early. but once he gassed, he wasn't able to keep it up. I think being in this war and going 12 is only gonna help him going forward.
 

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Watched the fight a couple of times, canelo fought better then I expected and was slicker than I thought, with that being said he still lost.

Triple g reflexes are slipping though.

If triple g was the winner no one would cry robbery tbh, all the canelo fans I see out here say they agree with the draw, just tells me that they are HAPPY they didn't lose.. but tell u what I'm HAPPY with the dicision honestly, it could have been worse and completely had him losing, that would have been TRAGIC.
 
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