If God is good why do we fear him?

[Propaganda]

i love it when religious cats talk about free will. these are the same people give all the credit to god/jesus when something good happens.

first off, i'd like to thank god for this oscar! praise jesus for getting me safely across town!

but then...when they hear about their neighbor's daughter getting beaten up and sodomized by a biker gang ..."it's all a part of god's plan" or "god works in mysterious ways".

make up your minds.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

the same way dead beat dads fear fatherhood which is good o.

dumb ass thread by the way, o.

 

[Pool_Shark]

i love it when religious cats talk about free will. these are the same people give all the credit to god/jesus when something good happens.

first off, i'd like to thank god for this oscar! praise jesus for getting me safely across town!

but then...when they hear about their neighbor's daughter getting beaten up and sodomized by a biker gang ..."it's all a part of god's plan" or "god works in mysterious ways".

make up your minds.

Aren't those all examples of God being credited?

If a girl randomly gets raped by a biker gang that is Gods will. What you have to understand is their is a reason for why that would happen. Do I know why? No. Do you know why? probably not. The universe is so gigantic that too understand every single faucet in life would be impossible.

 

[Propaganda]

Aren't those all examples of God being credited?

If a girl randomly gets raped by a biker gang that is Gods will. What you have to understand is their is a reason for why that would happen. Do I know why? No. Do you know why? probably not. The universe is so gigantic that too understand every single faucet in life would be impossible.

uhh...yeah, obviously they're all examples. that's my point.

religious folk talking about god gave us free will while simultaneously saying everything is god's doing.

 

[Pool_Shark]

uhh...yeah, obviously they're all examples. that's my point.

religious folk talking about god gave us free will while simultaneously saying everything is god's doing.

Sorry if I my answers aren't satisfactory, I just found my faith again after renouncing God for the longest, I'll do my best to answer though.

From my experience I did have free will. I was able to do what I wanted and because of that I strayed from God. Then I went through some trouble and God was the only one that was their getting me through it. I feel like I was messing around and God said it's time I come back to him.

I'm slowly learning to love God and strengthen my faith. I look at it like this. If you wanted someone to love you and I gave you pill that would make them love you, would you want it? Or would you prefer that the persons love comes from their heart of their own accord. That type of love would mean more and would strengthen your relationship.

You can say "Well wouldn't your trouble be equal to God giving you a magic pill?" No, because I chose God, I could've gone deeper into my trouble and drowned myself. I could've kept it logical and walked my brain through my struggle but at the time that isn't what spoke to me. That isn't what gave me peace and let me breathe. It was God that extended his hand to me.

So yes we have free will, but God also wants to interact with us and has a plan for all of us. You can get a soda right now, you can not believe in God, you can do what ever you want but you will still fulfill your destiny at the end of all of this.

 

[concise]

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on the cartoons.

Free will is not freedom from consequences.
Demon extermination is not yet at the final stages.
Job's circumstances were not just for the lulz.
There is no unconditional love.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

mathematically its far more likely that there is no free will than there is

with all the different variables involved in every day life, plus the variables that took place in history before you were born to create the conditions for your birth...

plus the theory of intelligent design

etc

at best free will is just playing the hand you were dealt, but even that is highly questionable as far as how much control you really have

 

[Angel On The Rag]

there is no free will

a) god is controlling us

or (if you dont believe in a god / gods)

b) our enviroment/genetics control us

we are basically on a automatic track with a brain that tells us we have free will so we have motivation to live

 

[JayYoung314]

Its crazy yes, Illogical yes, and like I stated earlier i can see why people look at it as sum dumb shyt, But thats also what makes it so beautiful. Some ppl are jus horrible ppl pint blank. Sum ppl been so fuked over by life, or ppl that they can't even attempt to fight for justice or let alone fight for themselves. Jesus said he came not for the righteous but sinners to repentance. I love the fact that there's hope for the murderer, the rapist, the thief, the liar all of them. And I believe that hope is in Jesus.

If being righteous on your own is good for you more power to you. As long as you love your fellow man as yourself I can't hate on it.

i was with u til u used hitler as an example. God is no fool, and his mercy is not to be taken lightly. To think that you can do what Hitler did and than right before u die say "Lord i accept u as my savior" and just waltz right into heaven givin everybody high fives and shyt, is just an asinine and elitist way of thinking. God also said he sacrificed his only son for this world, and that should not be taken lightly.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

I'm still just trynna understand when cats talk about this "plan" god has for us all. Really?


What kinda plans are there for people born with disfiguring and crippling diseases causing dem to live their whole lives with pain n suffering or die at young ages?

What kinda plans are there for children who've barely had any time on dis planet gettin kidnapped, molested, and murdered?

What kinda plans are there for people born with chemical imbalances in their brain causing them to completely lose touch wit reality? Thus causing em to either commit terrible crimes and/or cause em to commit suicide?

What kinda plans are there for innocent people who get killed by da hundreds of thousands because of weather cotastraphies?

What kinda plans are there for da evil pieces of shyt who get away wit doin vile things to fellow human beings?

What kinda plans are there for those people who get killed regardless of em praying for god to come save dem n stop da bullet and/or knife comin at they body?....but at da same time is apparently not too busy to help somebody score da game winning shot or nail dat job interview?

Cmon son.

 

[Pool_Shark]

I'm still just trynna understand when cats talk about this "plan" god has for us all. Really?


What kinda plans are there for people born with disfiguring and crippling diseases causing dem to live their whole lives with pain n suffering or die at young ages?

What kinda plans are there for children who've barely had any time on dis planet gettin kidnapped, molested, and murdered?

What kinda plans are there for people born with chemical imbalances in their brain causing them to completely lose touch wit reality? Thus causing em to either commit terrible crimes and/or cause em to commit suicide?

What kinda plans are there for innocent people who get killed by da hundreds of thousands because of weather cotastraphies?

What kinda plans are there for da evil pieces of shyt who get away wit doin vile things to fellow human beings?

What kinda plans are there for those people who get killed regardless of em praying for god to come save dem n stop da bullet and/or knife comin at they body?....but at da same time is apparently not too busy to help somebody score da game winning shot or nail dat job interview?

Cmon son.

Do you have the answers to those questions? Does anyone? Can anyone possibly understand every single thing that occurs in this universe? Who are you to demand any answers from God. Why does he have to answer to you?

If you read the bible those issues are addressed you just have to study it.

Maybe Christianity isn't the language God wants to speak to you with. Maybe there's a another language that God can give you peace with. You should look to feed yourself spiritually like you do physically.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Do you have the answers to those questions? Does anyone? Can anyone possibly understand every single thing that occurs in this universe? Who are you to demand any answers from God. Why does he have to answer to you?

If you read the bible those issues are addressed you just have to study it.

Maybe Christianity isn't the language God wants to speak to you with. Maybe there's a another language that God can give you peace with. You should look to feed yourself spiritually like you do physically.

And you should look into feeding your common sense and critical thinking abilities.

 

[Pool_Shark]

And you should look into feeding your common sense and critical thinking abilities.

my bad didn't mean to offend you breh

 

[Prez2032]

i was with u til u used hitler as an example. God is no fool, and his mercy is not to be taken lightly. To think that you can do what Hitler did and than right before u die say "Lord i accept u as my savior" and just waltz right into heaven givin everybody high fives and shyt, is just an asinine and elitist way of thinking. God also said he sacrificed his only son for this world, and that should not be taken lightly.

It wuz an example. Cuz I firmly believe that nikka will be burning forever. Its jus that if he wuz truly sincere in his call to God he would be forgiven according to the Bible. However, thats why I said your works and actions show if u truly had this transformation.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

Who are you to demand any answers from God.

I DECLARE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION GOD, DUDE! CAN HE TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME, BROTHER? IT SEEMS NOT! CAN YOU? NO WAY, DUUUDE! SO LET'S HAVE SOME ANSWERS, CHAMP! STOP SIMPING FOR THIS GOD CHARACTER AND SAYING LITERALLY ANYTHING HE DOES IS GOOD! IF KIDS GET RAPED ON HIS WATCH, THAT'S NOT GOOD, BROTHER! IF BABIES ARE BORN WITH HORRIFIC GENETIC DEFECTS, THAT'S NOT A GOOD PLAN, MAN!