"if em was black, he'd be the next muhammad ali of the game" - rakim

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

yeah?? his WHOLE career?
thats such an asinine statement you just made,
what do you consider his "second" album? tslp?
so you mean to tell me that he wasnt wakk on Infinite? but been garbage since he got famous?

Nope

We come from an era where demos don't count as albums and it wasn't out to the masses. Let alone he rehashed song ideas from it for his debut. So he has 2 retail albums worth listening to and the rest of his career is ass. If majority of your output is garbage then that's not a quality rapper. We can't just keep rating him based on what he can do when he isn't achieving that.

 

[TruDatz]

Mad disappointed in Rakim. Period

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Eminem's problem is he had flashes of brilliance (stan, sing for the moment, the way i am etc) but most of his shyt is CABBAGE. Try to listen to his discography from start to finish if you think i'm exaggerating, it's 95% wack. I'm not one for these 'If so and so was insert race' theories because Em being white is intrinsic to him as an artist but I can't see a black artist being able to live off past glories this long.

 

[BarackStar]

Sounded like you were saying skill-wise he is the best. I disagree with that as well. He is among the elite skill wise, but better than Jay, Nas, and BIG? No. You also said his race was his only "flaw". That's crazy. His race is what gets him 10 million in sales and he has no classic albums. Flaw? It's his greatest asset.

Skill wise nobody you named again is better. Skill wise he lacks in no area of MCing while everyone else is below goat tier in one area or another skill wise. Jay is not a better mc than em lyrically he is not equal to em, renegade demonstrated this. nas may be but his flow is not equal to em's, big is not em's equally lyrically either and none of them going to out do Em in a freestyle or Cypher. Em content is trash because he is white and when he came out nobody was going to let him rap hood shyt and be taken as a serious artist. If he was black he would have done that. Stop talking about sales, go reread what I wrote originally you keep missing the point and going on rants about how you feel about Eminem. Idc bout none of that stick to my points if you want to engage me.

 

[BarackStar]

Eminem's problem is he had flashes of brilliance (stan, sing for the moment, the way i am etc) but most of his shyt is CABBAGE. Try to listen to his discography from start to finish if you think i'm exaggerating, it's 95% wack. I'm not one for these 'If so and so was insert race' theories because Em being white is intrinsic to him as an artist but I can't see a black artist being able to live off past glories this long.

Jay z been living off past glory as long as em, he can barely keep up with Kanye on songs, keep it g nikka

 

[Columbo]

Rakim probably did that interview on April Fools day. Im sure its some kind of a joke, lets just move on.

Mods, please delete this thread

 

[Roland Coltrane]

So in short he has been garbage his whole career but let's ignore this.

Cac had been carried by his lame fans too far too long. And to be honest he's been wack since the second album

cold blooded truth right there

third one wasn't that bad but I think where he really fukked up is when he started feeling himself too much and decided his beats were better than Dre's

if he keeps Dre as his main producer people wouldn't have been so quick to toss him in the bushes imo
Em's beats are horrifible

 

[Roland Coltrane]

yeah?? his WHOLE career?
thats such an asinine statement you just made,
what do you consider his "second" album? tslp?
so you mean to tell me that he wasnt wakk on Infinite? but been garbage since he got famous?

nobody gives a fukk about Infinite breh
he was basically a Nas/AZ clone at that point anyway

he started to switch up his delivery and rhyme schemes once he went to Jersey and started fukking with the Outsidaz tho

 

[samtalksradio]

Rac00n.

 

[Edub]

That's Rakim's opinion...Everybody has one everybody

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

More black people listen to Paul Wall than Eminem, and he was down with Swishahouse...freestyle kings.
Eminem, on the other hand, lost to superior black rappers in freestyle battles...using writtens.
His albums had horrible production in retrospect and he was allowed to get away with murder subject matter wise...
He also ruined Busta's "i'll hurt you" remix.

Eminem was never culturally relevant in hip hop just musically. Paul Wall on the other hand was from the culture

There is a huge disconnect with Eminem and hip hop's black audience. Never heard him played in public at a black party ever

 

[Roland Coltrane]

As long as u give me sum credit for the gif lol

it took me a minute but I figured it out

to @BlackMajik for the inspiration

 

[Soon]

If Eminem was Black he'd about as well known as Ras Kass.

Or Cage.

A lot rappers say stuff for political reasons, not for cultural reasons.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Jay z been living off past glory as long as em, he can barely keep up with Kanye on songs, keep it g nikka

Nah. Jay-z is still listenable. 'Seen it all', 'We Made It' freestyle, 'Devil is a lie' all great and dropped. Kingdom come is trash and has more classic songs then Em has put out since 2003.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

the black version of eminem is hopsin, and we all agree that is nikka is corny af