"if em was black, he'd be the next muhammad ali of the game" - rakim

[Jigganaut]

Skill wise nobody you named again is better. Skill wise he lacks in no area of MCing while everyone else is below goat tier in one area or another skill wise. Jay is not a better mc than em lyrically he is not equal to em, renegade demonstrated this. nas may be but his flow is not equal to em's, big is not em's equally lyrically either and none of them going to out do Em in a freestyle or Cypher. Em content is trash because he is white and when he came out nobody was going to let him rap hood shyt and be taken as a serious artist. If he was black he would have done that. Stop talking about sales, go reread what I wrote originally you keep missing the point and going on rants about how you feel about Eminem. Idc bout none of that stick to my points if you want to engage me.

So Nas is better than big and Jay lyrically but might not be as good as Em????

 

[rapbeats]

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forget what the OP is talking about L O L at the dude doing the interview going hard at Ra like that. "no no no.. if em was black he wouldnt be em..come on now..come on.." "lets be serious"....
Ra says "i started to really feel scarface around the time i heard smile and you know.."

interviewer: "wait..you just then started to feel face? you didnt feel him before that? "

Ra: "naw naw i didnt mean it like that...

 

[rapbeats]

are yall hearing this interviewer going in.. " i would like em to do more more..you know ... more white trash ish... ya know."

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

i ain't never think somebody would refer to rakim as a c00n

Th..th...the... Coli dot com ya

 

[rapbeats]

Skill wise nobody you named again is better. Skill wise he lacks in no area of MCing while everyone else is below goat tier in one area or another skill wise. Jay is not a better mc than em lyrically he is not equal to em, renegade demonstrated this. nas may be but his flow is not equal to em's, big is not em's equally lyrically either and none of them going to out do Em in a freestyle or Cypher. Em content is trash because he is white and when he came out nobody was going to let him rap hood shyt and be taken as a serious artist. If he was black he would have done that. Stop talking about sales, go reread what I wrote originally you keep missing the point and going on rants about how you feel about Eminem. Idc bout none of that stick to my points if you want to engage me.

em is lyrically better than most. this is all facts. in a freestyle/cypher he would not beat Biggie smalls in his prime. i dont think you realize how nice biggie was in his prime since its been so long and he wasnt alive to make his own movie and do more cyphers, etc. and you know EM has been thru the battle arena. but a dude like big was too much. i would say a prime big L would have something for EM too in a cypher. because its not just about the rhyme schemes/patterns, is also if you say something witty, clever, hilarious, swagged out, etc. EM is a top level of all time mcee, anyone saying different is doing so because of the reality of racism and the US and how it affects sales when there's a white person involved. lets take sales away. crazy em walks into a cypher and he would still have black dudes ooo...ahhhhh. and laughing at some of his over the top stuff. now we dont rock with all that white boy stuff all the time. because we're not white. but i cant use that to give him negative points. he like the fact that EM for the most part stayed himself. he wasnt doing the wigger raps. he was a poor white trash kid from the trailer park and rapped about that life.

 

[rapbeats]

Jesus get off that cacs fukking dikk. Its Digusting.

If eminem was black he wouldnt be rapping about that Dumb shyt and would just be another good black rapper with nice rhyme structure. fukk outta here.

well G rap says different.

 

[Mowgli]

well G rap says different.

Grap lookin at the technique, because hes very technical. Thats an artist respecting another artists brush. nikkas dont be quoting no eminem lyrics like that and none of his songs really resonate with black people. Hes nice, but thats where it stops.

Thats politics. Anytime a nikka get on vlad or in some major cac publication he giving eminem props. Its industry bullshyt.

 

[Greenhornet]

if he spit the way he used to ... he would still have 2 special tapes and all of those crazy radio drops

id say he would be a novelty act like a redman and methodman if he was black ... he would do the drug raps and baby mama shyt still

 

[The American]

 

[Soon]

if he spit the way he used to ... he would still have 2 special tapes and all of those crazy radio drops

id say he would be a novelty act like a redman and methodman if he was black ... he would do the drug raps and baby mama shyt still

Em is nice, but he is not well rounded enough to be considered Ali. Where is Em's influence on the game? And if we just go off lyricism and ignore everything else, what other black rapper who is lyrical and nothing else that gets called Ali? Canibus? Ras Kass? Common? Black Thought?

I give Em props, but it we group him with lyricists he is one of the GOAT lyricist.

If we group him with well rounded emcess like Nas, Rakim, Krs1 and B.I.G. we can't start down playing his weaknesses, especially since we don't give other rappers that benefit.

 

[Big Boss]

If Eminem was Black he'd about as well known as Ras Kass.

It's over

 

[Greenhornet]

Em is nice, but he is not well rounded enough to be considered Ali. Where is Em's influence on the game? And if we just go off lyricism and ignore everything else, what other black rapper who is lyrical and nothing else that gets called Ali? Canibus? Ras Kass? Common? Black Thought?

I give Em props, but it we group him with lyricists he is one of the GOAT lyricist.

If we group him with well rounded emcess like Nas, Rakim, Krs1 and B.I.G. we can't start down playing his weaknesses, especially since we don't give other rappers that benefit.

yeah I would never say he is anywhere near ALI ... thats pac shyt, I would say he is a lightweight version of mayweather ... fighting washed up bums most of his career .. I would say biggie is a george foreman and Nas had the potential to be a Joe Fraizer but he ended up just playing it cool ...

Im just saying eminem would have been basically tech 9 or some of that shock rap midwest shyt if he was black, he would definitely have a huge lane still ... he just wouldnt be regarded as high ... just like those black horrorcore rappers who nobody takes serious

I cant think of a good situation that ties boxing to rap cause its completely different, Em had a couple big fights (8 mile, the first 2 cds, the radio spots) Now hes still okay but he is playing it safe and past a real good fight anymore ... you could almost say tyson but tyson got knocked out and Em never took an L .... but he came in strong and dominated, setup shop and was feared like a tyson for the beginning stages of his career.... now he does borat ass in his mouth and fart jokes just like tyson

 

[prophecypro]

He's always bigging up Em

Makes his alleged Nas hate even more hilarious

 

[Nobodyknows]

If all of the respect Eminem recieves from rappers like Rakim back then was all "Industry politics" why is Eminem still recieveing props from current new school artists?

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Rakoon

i literally came in here to type this like "dammit i'm late"