If Eli Manning wins another Superbowl....
- Thread starter Texas2step
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Though i hate Eli if he wins another ring he will have surpassed Peyton. Even if Peyton has the superior numbers. Hell Eli still got another good 5 or 6 years left to add on to his numbers at that.
Kunty McPhuck
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I'm getting tired of the "X is better than Y because he has more Super Bowl Rings" argument. Mufukkas still don't understand that there are 52 other players on an NFL Roster. Winning a Super Bowl is a TEAM accomplishment, not an individual one.
Again, the ultimate example in this argument is Dan Marino. Guess he really wasn't all that good huh, considering he didn't win a Super Bowl.
Eli is good, but he's not as good as Peyton. Probably never will be. And no, that's not a knock on Eli. Peyton is/was just that good.
In football at that. Its one of the ULTIMATE TEAM accomplishments. My high school football team back one year was one of the best teams in recent years in the state. Had multiple top D1 players (doesnt happen too often for a pub high school in MD) and was feasting on the top perennial contenders in our division in the reg season. #1 seed in the ENTIRE STATE and lost in the 1st rd of the playoffs
. Thats why I dont fault Peyton too much for his lack of Super Bowls. In football it takes MORE than one player or two or even 5 players. EVERYBODY from the coaching staff to the scout teams in practice gotta bring they A game at every second.
In football at that. Its one of the ULTIMATE TEAM accomplishments. My high school football team back one year was one of the best teams in recent years in the state. Had multiple top D1 players (doesnt happen too often for a pub high school in MD) and was feasting on the top perennial contenders in our division in the reg season. #1 seed in the ENTIRE STATE and lost in the 1st rd of the playoffs. Thats why I dont fault Peyton too much for his lack of Super Bowls. In football it takes MORE than one player or two or even 5 players. EVERYBODY from the coaching staff to the scout teams in practice gotta bring they A game at every second.
c/s its not b-ball where one man can get u that championship as much where football no matter how great u are u need more help
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Eli wasn't throwing to HOFers either like Peyton was. And Indy did have a great Defense with Bob Sanders and Freeney but Peyton normally choked in the postseason.
Also, the most yards Peyton ever thew in a season was 4,700 and Eli threw for 4,900 last season
to just look at names and say the colts had a great defense is just plain lazy. that defense has statistically been one of the worst in the league for over a decade. look at the teams that the colts lost to most often were the chargers, pats, and steelers. well-rounded teams that played good/great offense and exceptional defense. football isn't like basketball, where you can determine greatness by championships because one person can't will a team to victory on the field the way they can on the court. you're dependent on too many people to properly do their job.
Texas2step
H-Town it's NOT our year
in 05 their Defense was ranked 2 and in 07 the was 1st. The won the superbowl in 06 because their defense beasted on everybody. New England scored 34 points but that mostly do to a pick 6 by Peyton, fumble return, and more special teams turnovers.
Texas2step
H-Town it's NOT our year
Peyton was the one at the line of scrimmage making audible pass protection. When a team disuse their blitz to make you think it is coming from one side but it is actually from the other side then my good sir that has everything to do with him being confused by the defense
And Peyton only beat the Pats once in the Playoffs
Texas2step
H-Town it's NOT our year
I never said James was on that superbowl team but you can argue Joseph Addai
was better than then the Giants defense
And I love how everybody is saying how great a team the Giants had after winning these superbowls because I don't recall them ever being a favorite in those post season games. They were always the underdog but I guess yall want to rewrite history and call a team no one gave a chance to a "great team"
Peyton was the one at the line of scrimmage making audible pass protection. When a team disuse their blitz to make you think it is coming from one side but it is actually from the other side then my good sir that has everything to do with him being confused by the defense
So let me get this straight, when the defense gets pressure on the QB it has nothing to do with the opposing defense or the offensive line, but everything to do with the fact that QB wasn't in the right protection.
and as far as the bolded for a long time he wasn't beating them in the regular season either, but SOMETHING changed along the line didn't it?
what a retarded argument I'm close to being done.
Texas2step
H-Town it's NOT our year
any proof? How is that proof that they couldn't get off more so than Peyton being confused and changing their routes causing them to be ineffective And yes I do agree with you about SBs being more than just a QB performance but in Peyton case NO. Because Peyton was the playcaller and had full control of the offense. When you have full control but continue to be successful then he is the blame for the lack of production
I never said James was on that superbowl team but you can argue Joseph Addai
was better than then the Giants defense
And I love how everybody is saying how great a team the Giants had after winning these superbowls because I don't recall them ever being a favorite in those post season games. They were always the underdog but I guess yall want to rewrite history and call a team no one gave a chance to a "great team"
Who cares whether they were favored? Did you watch how they played in those games? The D held the greatest offense ever to 14 points.