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Except none of those are Strawman arguments. Those are the exact arguments posted by you and your ilk.
IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)
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Except none of those are Strawman arguments. Those are the exact arguments posted by you and your ilk.
Julius Skrrvin
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except pretty much all of them are. You're purposefully misrepresenting your 'opponents' positions by painting them with an ignorant and yes, antisemitic brush.
simply all you have to do to not be an Israel supporter in this conflict is to not support indiscriminate bombing and terrorism of innocent civilians. It's not that deep. 
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I'll add that to the list.
13) Israel's bombing of Gaza is indiscriminate, even though Hamas is 0.01% of Gaza's population, and significantly more of the proportion killed #ifailedhighschoolstatistics #freepalestine
14) All of Hamas's casualty rates should be taken very seriously #imnotbiasediswear
Now let me know which one of those you don't believe in
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
You have three choices:
1) Israel is shyt at bombing and accidentally kills civilians because the IDF sucks at their jobs.
2) Israel doesn't care about killing civilians and attacking UN shelters at the cost of taking out any potential member of Hamas they can.
3) Israel intentionally targets civilian epicenters like the Shujayea market to terrorize Gaza into inaction.
Could be all three!
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You have three choices:
1) Israel is shyt at bombing and accidentally kills civilians because the IDF sucks at their jobs.
2) Israel doesn't care about killing civilians and attacking UN shelters at the cost of taking out any potential member of Hamas they can.
3) Israel intentionally targets civilian epicenters like the Shujayea market to terrorize Gaza into inaction.
Could be all three!
Are you going to address the fact that you called Israel's strikes indiscriminate while Hamas is 0.01% of Palestinians, yet a significantly larger portion of those killed?
Julius Skrrvin
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I don't really have to, you can hardly call IDF operations surgical when Gaza housing and buildings have been leveled (everyone here has seen the satellite imaging) and hundreds of children have died in this conflict
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I don't really have to, you can hardly call IDF operations surgical when Gaza housing and buildings have been leveled (everyone here has seen the satellite imaging) and hundreds of children have died in this conflict
Define "surgical."
If you mean "never incurring civilian casualties" then no country in history has ever been surgical when fighting a militant group that uses civilians as human shields (or possibly any militant group ever).
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05/08/2014 / PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES
Video: Israeli soldiers cheer as explosives flatten mosque in Gaza
Screen grab from YouTube video showing destruction of a mosque in Khuzaa, in the southern Gaza Strip.
A video has emerged online showing Israeli soldiers cheering as explosives destroy a mosque allegedly linked to an underground tunnel network in Khuzaa, in the Gaza Strip - a reaction the Israel Defence Force says the soldiers are perfectly entitled to.
The video was filmed during an operation carried out on Thursday, July 30, by Israeli armed forces. In the distance, a mosque in the village of Khuzaa – a satellite of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip – can be seen. According to the Israel Defence Force (IDF), the mosque forms part of a network of tunnels that lead up to the Israeli border that Hamas militants use to stage attacks. The entrance to one tunnel was reportedly inside the mosque, making it – according to the IDF – a legitimate target. The IDF claims to have cleared the urban area surrounding the mosque before the explosion, and says there have been no associated deaths as far as it’s aware.
“Long live the state of Israel”
Read below for a full transcript of what the soldier says in the video:
We’re waiting for the explosion of something like eleven tons of explosive above – and below – the ground. This explosion is dedicated to the memory of the three people from the battalion who have fallen since the beginning of the operation – Amit Yeori of blessed memory, Guy Boylend of blessed memory, and Moshiko Dvino, of blessed memory. The battalion has been fighting in the operation since it started, under task force 84 – a Givati brigade task force. In the front you can see the mosque, where there is a shaft of a significant tunnel, which will also be part of the overall explosion that will be audible in a few seconds – throughout the village. In these moments the commander of the battalion is giving the commands over the communication network of the brigade, the network of the battalion, and in a few seconds an explosion will be heard. Long live the State of Israel!
At the end of the video, soldiers can be heard cheering as explosives ring out. An IDF spokesperson sent FRANCE 24 this video as proof that the operation was intended to dismantle a network of Hamas tunnels, the entrance to which was allegedly hidden by the mosque itself.
“Soldiers are perfectly entitled to be happy about destroying a tunnel used to carry out attacks against Israel"
An IDF spokesperson told FRANCE 24 that the soldiers’ cheering is down to “the fact that they just stopped future attacks on Israel,” and “that they can be sure it won’t be used for attacks, together with the excitement that would normally come from seeing an explosion of that size”. The spokesperson added: “Soldiers are perfectly entitled to be happy about destroying a tunnel used to carry out attacks against Israel.”
According to Human Rights Watch, Israeli forces warned residents to leave Khuzaa – a town of 10,000 residents - on July 21 before launching an assault two days later. The rights organisation accuses Israel’s armed forces of firing on and killing unarmed civilians fleeing the area. Gaza officials say more than 1,800 Palestinians have been killed since Israel began its offensive in the Gaza Strip, the majority of them civilians. Israel says 64 of its soldiers, along with three civilians, have also been killed.
CONTRIBUTORS
Walid Khuzaa
“The bombardments are entirely random, they don’t target specifically the mosques”
Walid is a local resident and activist from Khuzaa who was forced to flee the village.
The mosque [destroyed in the video above] isn’t the only one that was blown up. The Israeli army destroyed all 17 mosques in the village and all the houses. Khuzaa is today a vast field of debris. The death has risen to 50 since bombardments began, and the majority of the residents – mainly farmers – fled to Khan Younis and took refuge in schools. Others stayed in Khuzaa to try to find victims buried under the piles of rubble.
The bombardments are entirely random, they don’t target specifically the mosques but all the buildings and infrastructure in the village. They even destroyed a school run by UNRWA [United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East: The organisation provides assistance and protection for Palestinian refugees].
Walid Khuzaa
This article was written by FRANCE 24 journalists Andrew Hilliar (@andyhilliar) and Djamel Belayachi.
http://observers.france24.com/conte...soldiers-cheer-explosives-flatten-mosque-gaza
Video: Israeli soldiers cheer as explosives flatten mosque in Gaza
Screen grab from YouTube video showing destruction of a mosque in Khuzaa, in the southern Gaza Strip.
A video has emerged online showing Israeli soldiers cheering as explosives destroy a mosque allegedly linked to an underground tunnel network in Khuzaa, in the Gaza Strip - a reaction the Israel Defence Force says the soldiers are perfectly entitled to.
The video was filmed during an operation carried out on Thursday, July 30, by Israeli armed forces. In the distance, a mosque in the village of Khuzaa – a satellite of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip – can be seen. According to the Israel Defence Force (IDF), the mosque forms part of a network of tunnels that lead up to the Israeli border that Hamas militants use to stage attacks. The entrance to one tunnel was reportedly inside the mosque, making it – according to the IDF – a legitimate target. The IDF claims to have cleared the urban area surrounding the mosque before the explosion, and says there have been no associated deaths as far as it’s aware.
“Long live the state of Israel”
Read below for a full transcript of what the soldier says in the video:
We’re waiting for the explosion of something like eleven tons of explosive above – and below – the ground. This explosion is dedicated to the memory of the three people from the battalion who have fallen since the beginning of the operation – Amit Yeori of blessed memory, Guy Boylend of blessed memory, and Moshiko Dvino, of blessed memory. The battalion has been fighting in the operation since it started, under task force 84 – a Givati brigade task force. In the front you can see the mosque, where there is a shaft of a significant tunnel, which will also be part of the overall explosion that will be audible in a few seconds – throughout the village. In these moments the commander of the battalion is giving the commands over the communication network of the brigade, the network of the battalion, and in a few seconds an explosion will be heard. Long live the State of Israel!
At the end of the video, soldiers can be heard cheering as explosives ring out. An IDF spokesperson sent FRANCE 24 this video as proof that the operation was intended to dismantle a network of Hamas tunnels, the entrance to which was allegedly hidden by the mosque itself.
“Soldiers are perfectly entitled to be happy about destroying a tunnel used to carry out attacks against Israel"
An IDF spokesperson told FRANCE 24 that the soldiers’ cheering is down to “the fact that they just stopped future attacks on Israel,” and “that they can be sure it won’t be used for attacks, together with the excitement that would normally come from seeing an explosion of that size”. The spokesperson added: “Soldiers are perfectly entitled to be happy about destroying a tunnel used to carry out attacks against Israel.”
According to Human Rights Watch, Israeli forces warned residents to leave Khuzaa – a town of 10,000 residents - on July 21 before launching an assault two days later. The rights organisation accuses Israel’s armed forces of firing on and killing unarmed civilians fleeing the area. Gaza officials say more than 1,800 Palestinians have been killed since Israel began its offensive in the Gaza Strip, the majority of them civilians. Israel says 64 of its soldiers, along with three civilians, have also been killed.
CONTRIBUTORS
Walid Khuzaa
“The bombardments are entirely random, they don’t target specifically the mosques”
Walid is a local resident and activist from Khuzaa who was forced to flee the village.
The mosque [destroyed in the video above] isn’t the only one that was blown up. The Israeli army destroyed all 17 mosques in the village and all the houses. Khuzaa is today a vast field of debris. The death has risen to 50 since bombardments began, and the majority of the residents – mainly farmers – fled to Khan Younis and took refuge in schools. Others stayed in Khuzaa to try to find victims buried under the piles of rubble.
The bombardments are entirely random, they don’t target specifically the mosques but all the buildings and infrastructure in the village. They even destroyed a school run by UNRWA [United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East: The organisation provides assistance and protection for Palestinian refugees].
Walid Khuzaa
This article was written by FRANCE 24 journalists Andrew Hilliar (@andyhilliar) and Djamel Belayachi.
http://observers.france24.com/conte...soldiers-cheer-explosives-flatten-mosque-gaza
Where can I check out some more of this guy's photography at?
Photographer: Mahmud Hams/AFP via Getty Images
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Ritzy Sharon
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How is that an explanation for educated people being more likely to support Israel?
those who use upper level academia to maintain and perpetuate their privilege (class and race) and feel they are safe from the abuse of power are not going to feel empathy for the Palestinians.
those who feel they are, or potentially, a victim of the abuse of power are going to feel empathy for the Palestinians.
America's browning and these old cacs are dying off. time's running out, Shlomo.
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yo who is that british dude that was spazzing on the atrocities in syria? I want to see what he has said about this situation?
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On the international scene, Israel is clearly the underdog, and the UN abuses its power against Israel on a regular basis. Using your logic, educated people should not empathize with Israel as well.
I guess it is a coincidence that college attempts to teach critical thinking, pro-Palestine people have a severe deficit in the area, and people with advanced degrees are more likely to support Israel.
Yeah, and as a brown person who is inspired by MLK, I too (like MLK), support Israel. The rampant anti-Semitism among minorities isn't going to stop educated people from supporting Israel (although the media might).
Ritzy Sharon
Don't Make Me Pull The Oud Out
pathetic.
equate the crimes of the Zionist state to the "international scene" recognizing the Palestinians as a people suffering under occupation... is just....pathetic.
is there KHAAAAMAS terror tunnels being dug under the pro-Palestinian areas?
can I join the JIDF and help spread the word?
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So Hamas accepted basically the same cease-fire agreement that the Egyptians brought up 3 weeks ago when the death toll was only 185. Great leadership over there.