IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)

[tstone]

No, you are not doing that. You are being illogical by selecting quotes and events to try and say that it occurs by a large majority. This is such a basic concept, why do you people have so much difficulty understanding something so simple?

A large majority of Israeli's voted for a political party, that does not recognized any Palestinian State and which deputy speaker has called for Genocide and Palestinians to be placed in concentration camp. Do you understand what majority means.

In this hypothetical scenario, yes arguably only if the "murder" actually happened (Palestinians are being killed, not murdered).

Everything else you mentioned is entirely irrelevant to the definition of terrorism. You apparently do not know what terrorism is.

No you don't understand what Terrorism means.

Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

Hamas still has the capability of fire rockets, all that firing non-precision weapons and hitting U.N. schools has not done anything to Hamas capabilities and they still run Gaza. What was the purpose of killing over Thousands of civilians and destroying homes, Israel is punishing the people of Gaza for electing Hamas. Sounds like the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims to me.

 

[Truth200]

 

[TLOL is back]

A large majority of Israeli's voted for a political party, that does not recognized any Palestinian State

This is irrelevant+inaccurate. While the Likud charter does not recognize a future Palestinian state, Netanyahu made it clear that he will under certain security conditions.

and which deputy speaker has called for Genocide and Palestinians to be placed in concentration camp. Do you understand what majority means.

Deputy speakers are appointed by the prime minister and have nothing to do with "majority votes." So again.... Where is your "large majority" ?

No you don't understand what Terrorism means.

Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

Hamas still has the capability of fire rockets, all that firing non-precision weapons and hitting U.N. schools has not done anything to Hamas capabilities and they still run Gaza. What was the purpose of killing over Thousands of civilians and destroying homes, Israel is punishing the people of Gaza for electing Hamas. Sounds like the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims to me.

Maybe that is because you don't know what "political aims" are. Political aims are not the same as safety aims. Israel wanted to stop the rocket launchers from firing, and succeeded in doing so. It wanted nothing political from Hamas, only an end to their violence.

Hence, your pathetic terrorism canard goes right out the window.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

OK, since I am destroying your argument, with events, quotes and facts from the conflict. Let's use equal logic and see if Israel is a Democratic state. My argument is not to defend Hamas, but to show that Israel has powerful terroristic elements controlling the country.

A. If Hamas was elected and controlled Gaza government since 2006 and in response Israel created a blockade. Because Hamas called for the destruction and non-recognition of Israel in there charter and started shooting of rinky dink rockets, Hamas is a terrorist organization, correct?

B. If the Likud party, controls the Israeli parliament, one of it's members is the Prime Minister(Netanyahu) of Israel. It's high level members have been heard in print calling for the genocide of Palestinians. It's charter platform below, which was created in 1999, said that it will never recognized a Palestinian State and this is becoming a reality, by using economic warfare in the form of blockade and settlements on Gaza and the West Bank respectively. Thousands of Palestinians being murdered, from a state which party members called for a genocide of Palestinians. Is the Likud party a terrorist party? Is Israel controlled by a terrorist party?

Likud Party Charter
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.

Oh but I'm just cherry picking

Breh...

Why are you wasting you time trying to educate a fool with the mental capacity of a tree?

 

[TLOL is back]

Breh...

Why are you wasting you time trying to educate a fool with the mental capacity of a tree?

Irony, considering I am pointing out textbook-fallacies (illogical forms of thinking) that is rampant among your retard side of the political spectrum.

 

[tstone]

Maybe that is because you don't know what "political aims" are. Political aims are not the same as safety aims. Israel wanted to stop the rocket launchers from firing, and succeeded in doing so. It wanted nothing political from Hamas, only an end to their violence.
Hence, your pathetic terrorism canard goes right out the window.

Before I go to sleep, let me leave you with this. At first it was about the three teenagers, then the rockets fired from Gaza, then the destroyed tunnels was declared mission accomplished. But, Hamas fired a barrage of rockets right before the 72-hour cease fire. Israel did not stop any damn rocket launchers.


72-hour truce comes into effect following barrage of rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...amas-and-Israel-to-take-effect-at-8-am-370082

 

[Malta]

Clearly.

Why can't people who are pro-Palestine grasp basic concepts in rational thought?!

I'd love to see you tell Stephen Hawking he doesn't grasp basic concepts in rational thought

 

[tstone]

Breh...

Why are you wasting you time trying to educate a fool with the mental capacity of a tree?

Educating him, with actual events with news links from the conflict, and his comeback is that all of it is from make believe world.

 

[thekingsmen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamaas

was a publication of the Lehi, an armed Zionist militant group in Mandate Palestine.

 

[TLOL is back]

I'd love to see you tell Stephen Hawking he doesn't grasp basic concepts in rational thought

As all make logical errors at some points, but the intelligent among us understand why it is illogical when pointed out to us. If I told Stephen Hawking "hey, that is the Cherry Picking fallacy" he would understand what I'm saying. This guy on the other hand (see below) is struggling with the concept:

Educating him, with actual events with news links from the conflict, and his comeback is that all of it is from make believe world.

Do you understand rational thought, Malta? If so, I invite you to explain to him how the cherrypicking fallacy is related to him picking and choosing select events and quotes and then claiming it happens with a large majority.

 

[TLOL is back]

Before I go to sleep, let me leave you with this. At first it was about the three teenagers, then the rockets fired from Gaza, then the destroyed tunnels was declared mission accomplished. But, Hamas fired a barrage of rockets right before the 72-hour cease fire. Israel did not stop any damn rocket launchers.


72-hour truce comes into effect following barrage of rocket fire from Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...amas-and-Israel-to-take-effect-at-8-am-370082

What's your point?

BTW, you didn't answer my question: Deputy speakers are appointed by the prime minister and have nothing to do with "majority votes." So again.... Where is your "large majority" ?

 

[Serious]

TLOL is back

 

[Jello Biafra]

In this hypothetical scenario, yes arguably only if the "murder" actually happened (Palestinians are being killed, not murdered).

When we start parsing words and looking for moral and ethical wiggle room between the definitions of killing and murdering in regards to the deaths of innocent men, women and children is when we have crossed the line into absurdity.

 

[TLOL is back]

When we start parsing words and looking for moral and ethical wiggle room between the definitions of killing and murdering in regards to the deaths of innocent men, women and children is when we have crossed the line into absurdity.

When we draw a moral equivalence between intentionally targeting civilians, and incurring civilian casualties while striking weapons aimed at the party in question, is when we cross the line into absurdity.

 

[Truth200]

Can't believe some of he shyt i read on here.