ICE Raids in Mississippi’s Chicken Country Create Opportunity for Black Residents

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I found jobs and interviewed in other states. Came up on a TEMP job in GA paying $13.50 in 2005. Left Memphis and got a roommate. Continued my job search for 6 months after until I found another permanent job paying better. That led me to Chicago for 2 years. I loved Georgia, so I found yet another job and moved back. Took my ass to community college here and got a decent job. Been here ever since. It's had its highs and lows, but now I'm doing fantastic.

I got da fukk on nikka... hell you talkin bout.:gucci:

Did it on my own. I ain't have shyt, but I wasn't scared to go out and be a man. I wanted better and eventually I got it.

Who stays in a state where the only prospect of making it is through a modern day cotton field? :dahell:


Bruh. Do you know how unrealistic you sound right now? With the level of poverty in Mississippi do you really expect black folks to just up and leave en masse? Black ppl been leaving high poverty areas in the south east since the great migration.

See that type of talk is that coded bootstrap type nonsense white folks say. Mississippi has a long history of structural issues deeply rooted in racism. A few black folks moving away dont change that.
 

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No blame for the people who hire these illegals. This raid was done on a business that is own by the koch family. They are Republicans yet one of there business hired a bunch of illegal immigrants.
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It's all classic smokescreen politics bruh...

Wealthy Republicans like Trump don't give a fukk about illegal immigration, all they care about is profit margins and illegals are cheap labor...

It's the poor rural Rethuglican that cares about this issue because this inbred moron is directly affected by the guy he votes for predatory business practices thus Rethuglican politicians are forced to pander...Instead of blaming that guy, he'd rather blame Guadalupe and the Democrats for allowing Guadalupe in to take the chicken job he doesn't want but doesn't have any other options...

Democrats are also playing politics here, pro-IILLEGAL-immigration folk purposely center the conversation around keeping these people in this country and turn a blind-eye to predatory business practices...They don't care what these people do once they're here, they don't care if they take the only jobs available in rural areas away from Americans, all that matter is that they are here and accounted for in the census...
 

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If you lie on your paperwork, the government can't hold companies that accountable.

Read the article again:

Jere Miles, a special agent in charge with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, recently told a congressional committee that the Mississippi raids would deter future illegal immigration. He also said the authorities discovered 400 instances of identity theft that had been perpetrated against legal United States residents. The conservative columnist Henry Olsen, citing high poverty rates and low incomes in the area, argued that the undocumented Mississippi workers were taking jobs from Americans.


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So what if they lie
From the article you posted


Though I-9 falsification is a criminal offense both for the employer and the employee, employers who do get caught are held to a reasonableness standard in court — which means that as long as the name on the paperwork matches the name the employee gave them, and their photo ID looks like it could be them, they don’t tend to, or need to, ask questions.

“A lot of people will just take the documents even though they’re clearly not accurate; they just don’t do due diligence,

These people know the documents are iffy and dont bother to investigate further to see if they are legit.
 

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Why Fear of Immigrants In Employment Is Short-Sighted At The Dawn Of The Automation Age
Council Post: Why Fear of Immigrants In Employment Is Short-Sighted At The Dawn Of The Automation Age


Robots are the ultimate job stealers. Blame them, not immigrants
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/14/resentment-robots-job-stealers-arlie-hochschild

When you folks, Nap and his other 8 log-in users are ready to discuss real solutions to put blacks in better economic and financial situations then we’ll circle back around to this topic.

Until then, I’ll let ya go at it. :coffee:

 

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The corporations need to be punished, and those who are here illegally should be punished as well.

Fine these CEO’s and corporations heavily; even include jail time for repeat offenders and those with large operations. With that being said, anyone who is here illegally caught in a raid should be deported immediately.





Investigators believe five poultry companies violated immigration law, search warrants say
Unsealed documents detail trove of evidence, including videotaped statements by managers.

Federal immigration officials say they have probable cause that all five companies operating poultry plants raided by authorities in Mississippi last week violated immigration law by knowingly hiring undocumented immigrants, according to search warrant affidavits that cite videotaped statements of managers.

There were clear signs that the companies were hiring people who could not legally work in the country, the search warrants allege. Some workers wore ankle monitors as they awaited deportation hearings, gave Social Security numbers belonging to the deceased or were hired twice by the same manager even though the worker used different names on each occasion.

Since 2002, federal officials have reported more than 350 encounters or arrests of undocumented people who said they worked at two of the plants, Koch Foods and Peco Foods.

The companies for years have employed a stream of Guatemalan and Mexican immigrants who are not authorized to work in the United States, according to the search warrant affidavits, unsealed in federal court after Aug. 7 raids on seven plants operated by Koch Foods, Peco Foods, PH Food, A&B and Pearl River Foods. In the affidavits, Homeland Security Investigations agent Anthony Todd Williams Jr. said there is probable cause to believe that the chicken plants in Mississippi intentionally hired undocumented workers who presented fraudulent documents “for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain.”

Williams wrote that individuals or companies shown to have “actual knowledge” of violating the employment law — meaning they knowingly hired at least 10 people not authorized to work for a year-long period — can be fined as much as $3,000 per undocumented worker. Employers can be imprisoned for as long as six months.

Neither the companies nor any executives have been charged with violating immigration law, although the documents name numerous managers who apparently knew about the widespread practice, according to the affidavits recently unsealed in Mississippi federal court. Immigration and Customs Enforcement carried out the raids at seven chicken-processing plants operated by the companies, arresting 680 workers, about half of whom have been released to await further hearings.

ICE spokesman Bryan Cox said no charges have been filed against either workers or employers since the raids.

“No federal law enforcement agency is going to speculate as to if/when any federal criminal charges may be filed … as that is the sole decision of the U.S. Attorney’s office,” he wrote in an email.

Mike Hurst, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, said in a statement that he could not comment on the case because the investigation is ongoing. “If you look at the history of this office, we have consistently prosecuted employers, companies and owners when evidence has been presented to us to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they have violated federal criminal laws.”

Cliff Johnson, director of the MacArthur Justice Center, told The Washington Post that in his experience as a former federal prosecutor and criminal defense lawyer, such cases are time-consuming.

“Federal agents no doubt seized servers, hundreds of personnel files and thousands of additional documents to be analyzed and considered by agents and federal prosecutors,” Johnson said. “The fact that no corporate officials were hauled out in handcuffs on the day of the raid is not the least bit surprising.”

The records detail how ICE linked undocumented immigrants to the companies. Investigators found some employees via GPS coordinates at plants operated by all five companies. The employees previously had been arrested by Border Patrol agents in California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona and released on electronic-monitoring programs, including ankle bracelets, to await court dates. In each case cited, the individuals listed addresses in small towns in central Mississippi where they could be located.

An undocumented Mexican woman working in a Peco Foods plant in Bay Springs, Miss., told immigration officials that she had come to the state because people in Mexico had told her that jobs were available at the chicken plants there.

In cases cited in the affidavits, people on ICE’s electronic-monitoring programs were not authorized to work. But according to the affidavits, dozens of employees in such programs were found working at the seven chicken plants in 2018 and 2019. One successful job applicant was told by a supervisor during her interview that she would need to keep her ankle monitor charged while she worked.

Immigration officials in Jackson, Miss., say they investigated the plants by working with employees who were acting as confidential informants, coordinating with local police on traffic stops and culling records from jails and detention centers, among other forms of surveillance.

Since 2008, Mississippi has required companies to use E-Verify, a federal employment verification system that checks an applicant’s information against a variety of federal databases. However, the system only checks the names, Social Security numbers and other information supplied by the applicant, so it cannot always detect whether an employee’s application uses falsified documents.

Koch Foods, Peco Foods and PH Food issued public statements saying that they use the federal system, which compares an employee’s identity across databases. One of the search warrants lists the names of 25 PH Food employees whose names had not been run through E-Verify.

On Friday, Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.) and Jamie B. Raskin (D-Md.) sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr and acting homeland security secretary Kevin McAleenan asking for documents detailing the cost of the raids, information on the detained workers and any past or current criminal charges against the companies that employed them.

“It appears that these DOJ and ICE enforcement actions are targeting only immigrant workers and not their employers,” the letter reads.

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) is one of the top two recipients in Congress of campaign contributions from the egg and poultry industry, according to the nonprofit Center for Responsive Politics. The Jackson Free Press reported that Hyde-Smith’s campaign is a top recipient of donations from the National Chicken Council PAC, to which both Peco Foods and Koch Foods executives donate.

Hyde-Smith, a former Mississippi agriculture commissioner, did not respond to requests for comment from The Post.
 

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Here’s what the newly unsealed federal documents allege about the five companies whose plants were raided Aug. 7:

Koch Foods

Headquartered near Chicago, privately held Koch Foods produces more than 700,000 tons of chicken products each year in its plant in Morton, Miss. The Koch Foods plant in Morton was raided after immigration officials said they received multiple tips that the plant knew it was employing immigrants not authorized to work in the United States.

Officials have reported 144 encounters, including arrests, since 2002 with undocumented immigrants who said they worked at a Koch Foods plant in Mississippi. ICE found that 21 employees of the Koch Foods plant in Morton are enrolled in the agency’s electronic-monitoring program, which tracks people who have been arrested on immigration violations and are awaiting court dates. Except in rare cases, such individuals are not authorized to work.

A Guatemalan woman who worked at the Morton plant since November 2016 told immigration officials in May that when she applied for employment, her first application was denied.


“She was told by a Human Resources (HR) employee (unidentified female) at the plant that if the ‘papers’ were not good, she was not going to be hired,” according to the affidavit by agent Williams.

About three weeks later, the woman used another name to send application materials to the same Koch human resources employee and was hired. “Even though she returned to the plant within three weeks and used two different identities, the HR employee did not ask anything related to her identity,” it says.

The Guatemalan woman told authorities that a Koch supervisor asked her whether she had an electronic-monitoring ankle bracelet, which she did. The supervisor told her “he knew ‘they’ were poor and came to the United States to work,” according to the affidavit.

Officials also talked to a Guatemalan woman who said that she first worked at the Koch Foods plant in Morton in 2017. She received permission to work from the Department of Homeland Security in 2018 and asked a co-worker whether she should talk to human resources about changing her employment documents to reflect her real name. The co-worker advised her to quit and reapply instead. So she did and was hired the same day at the other Koch plant in Morton, with no questions about her identity.

Koch spokesman Jim Gilliland told The Post that Koch Foods risked violating federal law that bans discrimination on the basis of national origin for requesting documents beyond what an applicant provides, if those materials appear authentic.

“Forms of identification can look completely authentic and jibe with the person who is sitting in front of us. … So you take what you’re given, and you enter that into the E-Verify system,” Gilliland said.

He said the company never knowingly employed people who presented false documentation to work.

This is not the first time federal immigration agents have raided a Koch Foods plant: 161 employees were arrested in 2007 at a plant in Fairfield, Ohio. The company paid a fine of more than $500,000 for violating immigration laws in 2010, the Chicago Tribune reported.

Peco Foods

Alabama-based Peco Foods, the eighth-largest poultry producer in the country, operated three of the Mississippi processing plants raided last week. The privately operated company is headed by President Mark Hickman, whose grandfather founded the company in 1937.

“We are fully cooperating with the authorities in their investigation and are navigating a potential disruption of operations,” the company told The Post in a statement.

According to the search warrant affidavits, 21 people enrolled in the electronic-monitoring program are employed at Peco plants in Mississippi. Authorities had 222 encounters with undocumented Peco employees between 2002 and 2019, the affidavits state.

Officials linked at least seven undocumented Guatemalans to one of the plants, including a worker who said he worked there for 12 years.

Since 2012, immigration officials reported encountering at least five undocumented Mexicans and Guatemalans who said they worked at the Peco plants in Bay Springs and Canton, Miss. Federal investigators worked with a former employee at the company’s Bay Springs plant as a confidential informant to videotape a conversation with a Peco Foods human resources employee, who said the plant has hired multiple employees twice but with different identities.

According to the affidavit, the human resources employee told the informant: “Peco Foods management does not care” about employing immigrants with questionable documentation.

The affidavit lists ICE’s first contact with the Sebastopol plant as July 2014, when officials asked a human resources manager to locate a Guatemalan man using someone else’s name for his employment. ICE arrested the man and reported encounters with at least nine more undocumented Guatemalans between August 2015 and June 2019 who said they worked at the plant.

PH Food and A&B

In the affidavit, Williams states that two of the plants ICE raided last week are owned by the same man: Huo You Liang, also known as “Victor” Liang. The chicken-processing plants are A&B, in Pelahatchie, Miss., and PH Food, in Morton, Miss.

A man who answered the phone at PH Food on Thursday asked whether a reporter was calling and before hanging up said he could not answer questions. A&B did not respond to requests for comment.

PH Food, which lost dozens of workers to arrest Aug. 7, laid off another 100 workers on Monday without explanation, attorneys for several workers told The Post. It is unclear whether the layoffs are related to the raid. Former employees and their allies gathered in a Morton park on Tuesday for a demonstration.

In February, an employee at PH Food gave immigration officials information showing that both plants were employing workers without legal documentation and that they use a payroll company in Louisiana to file the paperwork and shift the blame.

In May, officials recorded a conversation between the informant and Heather Carrillo, whom the affidavit lists as the secretary responsible for new employee paperwork at both plants. Carrillo told the informant that if immigration authorities had questions, she would direct them to Shreveport, La., where the payroll company is located, the affidavit states.

In May, immigration officials reviewed E-Verify records for the names and Social Security numbers given by 20 PH Food employees. They found that neither PH Foods nor its payroll provider had checked E-Verify for those names, even though the companies searched 1,000 other names in the system.


The Louisiana payroll company — PMI Resource — as well as PH Food and A&B “do not verify the authenticity of their documents,” according to the affidavit.Although E-Verify is federally a voluntary system, Mississippi state law requires companies to use E-Verify.

Despite the affidavit’s allegation that at least 20 employees’ names were not put through E-Verify, Carrillo told The Post last week that the business uses E-Verify in hiring. A woman who answered the phone at PMI Resource on Wednesday declined to answer questions.

Both the informant and an undocumented employee said 70 of 80 total employees at A & B’s plant were undocumented immigrants, most from Guatemala and a few from Mexico. The affidavit states that 224 of 240 PH Food workers are “suspected to be” undocumented, with 22 employees at the two plants enrolled in ICE’s electronic-monitoring program.

Pearl River Foods

The fifth company whose employees were swept up in the ICE raids, Pearl River Foods, opened its plant in Carthage, Miss., two years ago, and its success has been touted by the state’s governor.

When the Carthage plant handed over information about its 337 employees to immigration authorities in February, investigators allege they found some employees using the names and Social Security numbers of other people, including the deceased. Three months later, when ICE asked for the plant’s E-Verify list, 306 employees were listed as having been previously searched in the system.

The affidavit said 19 undocumented employees were enrolled in the electronic-monitoring program.


Pearl River opened its $2 million chicken-processing plant in 2017 and created 600 jobs within a year, according to a news release by the state economic development authority.

“The addition of so many new jobs by Pearl River Foods in Leake County speaks to the company’s commitment to doing business in Mississippi and to its strong belief in the people of our great state,” Gov. Phil Bryant (R) said at the time.

The business writes Facebook posts in English and Spanish and received an award in June from the state for its contributions to economic development. Pearl River Foods did not respond to requests for comment, and its Facebook page was no longer publicly available as of Thursday.
 

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There's no point in arguing with these pro-illegal folks. They're incorrigible.

In their minds, there's no onus on the illegal immigrant to fight the greater system of "bosses and predatory capitalism". Illegal immigrants are not held accountable for their actions in this dynamic, nor is the illegal's attitude and opinion of the displaced American worker of any concern. A poor black Missisipan has more effective agency to the liberal and more of a moral obligation to fight the system than the illegal immigrant does.

By absolving the illegal of any agency or ability to do harm, it makes the white liberal feel good about himself that he's providing a better life for someone.

illegals, of course, are highly capable individuals with agency and working minds but unfortunately for the black worker, many of them are just as regressive and protectionist as the racist, white working class. There's no strong workers solidarity there much less one that would be capable of pressuring for better wages and working conditions across the board. So it's not just their status as undocumented that makes them a hindrance.

It’s not about absolving illegals of anything, it’s that employers are never held to account and government is not held to account for providing a universal verification system.

As long as we are hiring, illegals will continue me to come here.

“Mr Build a Wall and Mexico is going to pay for it”, had illegals washing his clothes and scrubbing his toilets up until a few months ago. The only reason he got rid of them is because of a whistleblower who got sick of his hypocrisy.

Trump knows very well a universal e-verification system would deal a huge blow to his and his buddies interests in the hospitality industry.

Mitch McConnell and all the pols from fly over state know a verification system could deal a huge blow to Agriculture.

So they give the vapid deplorables vanity wins like the wall.

Constant demonization of immigrants with no real intention to stop it at the source keeps people like Nap foaming at the mouth and the votes coming.

It’s a win/win for them.
 

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Council Post: Why Fear of Immigrants In Employment Is Short-Sighted At The Dawn Of The Automation Age


Robots are the ultimate job stealers. Blame them, not immigrants
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/14/resentment-robots-job-stealers-arlie-hochschild

When you folks, Nap and his other 8 log-in users are ready to discuss real solutions to put blacks in better economic and financial situations then we’ll circle back around to this topic.

Until then, I’ll let ya go at it. :coffee:
Black politicians have been talking about this for 40 years.

All this automation talk is barely 4 years old.

Go troll somewhere else.
 

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It’s not about absolving illegals of anything, it’s that employers are never held to account and government is not held to account for providing a universal verification system.

As long as we are hiring, illegals will continue me to come here.

“Mr Build a Wall and Mexico is going to pay for it”, had illegals washing his clothes and scrubbing his toilets up until a few months ago. The only reason he got rid of them is because of a whistleblower who got sick of his hypocrisy.

Trump knows very well a universal e-verification system would deal a huge blow to his and his buddies interests in the hospitality industry.

Mitch McConnell and all the pols from fly over state know a verification system could deal a huge blow to Agriculture.

So they give the vapid deplorables vanity wins like the wall.

Constant demonization of immigrants with no real intention to stop it at the source keeps people like Nap foaming at the mouth and the votes coming.

It’s a win/win for them.
You support illegal immigrants. All this talk about e-verify and shyt doesn't change the fact that people LIE ON THOSE FORMS

They shouldn't be here in the first place.
 

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Illegal immigration has been weaponized to a degree never seen before. It’s has been turned into an issue that’s designed to invoke visceral reaction of “alien” invaders at our gates.

Trump used it beautifully to catapult himself into the White House. You are trying to use it right now to drive hatred of immigrants on this forum. For what purpose, I’m not sure. Maybe you think this posture will earn you props from the militants who constantly call you a “smelly Indian”. Maybe acceptance in a anonymous msg board is all you are sadly after.

But you conveniently leave out any criticism of those doing the hiring and providing opportunities for people to travel thousands of miles from their homeland.
I've been talking about this issue before Trump even announced his candidacy. I've got posts on this going back to 2013.

Black politicians have been talking about this for 40 years!


You're a fukking moron to insinuate I've recently just been weaponized against "harmless folks"

I have nothing personal against illegals, but they're not immigrants. they're illegal aliens. BIG difference. Immigrants are given visas, green cards, and/or documentation facilitating their travel and stay and even temp work in the country.

You're talking about GHOSTS.
 

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So what if they lie
From the article you posted


Though I-9 falsification is a criminal offense both for the employer and the employee, employers who do get caught are held to a reasonableness standard in court — which means that as long as the name on the paperwork matches the name the employee gave them, and their photo ID looks like it could be them, they don’t tend to, or need to, ask questions.

“A lot of people will just take the documents even though they’re clearly not accurate; they just don’t do due diligence,

These people know the documents are iffy and dont bother to investigate further to see if they are legit.
We're done here. :win:

See how easy this was? :whoo:






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