ICE Raids in Mississippi’s Chicken Country Create Opportunity for Black Residents

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This is such an idiotic talking point and downright white liberal elitist...

Nobody is striving for a fukking chicken job, everybody got to start somewhere generating income...

Any job is better than being worthless and unemployed...

To further add to that, higher education is what opens the door to better paying jobs and that costs money...

How do you expect poor rural folk in Mississippi to pursue a higher education if they have no income ? Our white liberal savior uncle Bernie is going to pay for it? :martin:
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Illegal immigration is a new culture war designed to keep the plebes fighting each other, while business owners reap the benefits of cheap labor.

The fact the Trump knowingly had illegal immigrants working in his resorts up until a few months ago when a whistleblower came out, should tell you everything you need to know.

That’s why holding employers accountable or implementing universal e-verify system is never talked about.

The business owners get their cheap labor and the politicians and scumbags like Nap get their whipping boy.
new? :rudy:


Black democrats used to universally be against illegal immigration because they knew it undercut them.

Democrat Representative Barbara Jordan in 1995:





Coetta Scott King wrote letters to congress almost 30 years ago about this.

the disrespect you have for black labor is astonishing.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/cor...n-because-she-saw-it-hurt-black-labor.687486/



The Forgotten Letter of Coretta Scott King | HuffPost

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The Forgotten Letter of Coretta Scott King
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In any age of rapidly changing political and partisan perspectives, it is perhaps well to remember how the immigration debate was originally framed back in 1986 when the Reagan/Bush Amnesty plan, put forth to placate the demands of Corporate America for cheap labor, was first enacted. Ignored at the time were the protests which began as early as 1969, when Cesar Chavez and members of the United Farm Workers marched with the Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale to the border with Mexico to demand the cessation of employers’ practice of importing illegal labor as a means of cutting wages and reducing thousands of their workers to the most grinding poverty.

The government’s response to such protests and demands for economic justice? In the 1980s at a time when African American teenage unemployment approached a disgraceful 80 percent, Big Business cynically petitioned the INS for more visas for cheap foreign labor on grounds that there was an “unskilled labor shortage”. They largely got what they demanded. While Democrats courageously resisted such blatant attempts to lower the wages of legal Hispanic and African Americans, Reagan Amnesty apologists claimed that Americans wouldn’t stoop to perform the “dirty work” that only illegal workers would perform, ignoring the obvious fact that unemployed legal workers gladly and gratefully collect garbage and work in the coal mines if decent wages were paid.

In fact the pleas for economic justice in America were made many years before by the great African American educator, Booker T. Washington, who made his famous “cast down your bucket where you are” speech at the Atlanta International Exposition in 1895. Having recognized the racist and notorious practice of Big Business of importing and hiring cheap immigrant labor in order to avoid hiring African Americans, Washington pleaded: (T)o those (of you) who look to the incoming of those of foreign birth, cast down your bucket where you are. (If you but do so) we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to interlace our industrial, commercial, civil and religious life with yours.”

It should be no surprise, therefore, that these demands for economic justice were taken up by the wife of Martin Luther King, who in 1991 joined with eight CEO’s of America’s leading African American organizations to oppose Republican Senator Orin Hatch’s bill to do away with sanctions against employers who persisted in hiring illegal aliens as a means of discriminating and reducing the wages of against African Americans.

“We are concerned, Senator Hatch” Coretta Scott King wrote in her now largely forgotten letter, “That your proposed remedy…will cause another problem—the revival of …discrimination against black and brown U.S. documented workers, in favor of cheap labor.”

Given the success of Big Business in lobbying the U.S. government to ignore these pleas for economic justice — on grounds of “humanitarianism” no less — it is perhaps the ultimate irony that this success has translated also in flipping the partisan narrative to the point where even legal immigrants have been tricked into adopting the Reagan/Bush agenda against their own economic interest under the ideological banner of the party that for decades opposed it.

But there may now be signs of enlightenment by those who have been most oppressed by the Reagan/Bush agenda. In 2014, by a strong majority of 53 percent, male Latinos voted for the Texas Republican Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who had promised to stop the notorious practice of luring illegal immigrants—even little children— to their deaths in the desert with such promises as amnesty, and in-state-tuition.

And so, gradually the tide may be turning in Booker T. Washington’s and Coretta Scott King’s demand for economic justice. Even in Germany today, where Merkel basked in the “humanitarian” glow of luring hundreds of thousands un-vetted illegal immigrants with promises of cash rewards (but no jobs, of course), the spectacle of teeming throngs of desperate young males being herded into the most degrading “refugee” camps, or worse showered with useless “vouchers,” may be finally revealing to the world the immorality of luring people from their homes, families, and culture for little more than the political aggrandizement of the politicians who created it. The tragedy, of course, is that the billions spent on such self-defeating endeavors could have been instead been spent on providing safety and economic help in zones created for their protection in the home countries.

In America, no true reform can ever come until the most demagogic politicians cease their deliberate obfuscation of the difference between legal and illegal immigration, and begin streamlining the procedures for legal immigration, which is now so difficult that relatively few can navigate or afford it. When this is done, any wall built will always have doors.

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with increased experience comes leverage.

they're starting over down there and with more citizen labor, then bosses can't get away with the sorts of labor abuses they do with illegals

true but the black folks who ere already employed for yeras at those wages bring leverage with them as well. i saw act now fast becuase of the political climate too. These new workers shouldn't give management any reprieve while they make this workforce transition and be satisfied with wages we know to be piss poor.
 

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This is disrespect for black Americans that you harbor.
I'm a black American. Would you like to come talk your shyt to my face.

I doubt it. We've done this dance before. :unimpressed:

The only disrespect here is you praising these men working for pennies and living in squalor as some sort of success tale for black Americans.

Your inability to criticize these white men who are hiring illegal immigrants and paying black adult substandard wages while pillaging black communities is what is disrespectful.

You LARPING as a black man on the internet is also disrespectful.
 

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There's no point in arguing with these pro-illegal folks. They're incorrigible.

In their minds, there's no onus on the illegal immigrant to fight the greater system of "bosses and predatory capitalism". Illegal immigrants are not held accountable for their actions in this dynamic, nor is the illegal's attitude and opinion of the displaced American worker of any concern. A poor black Missisipan has more effective agency to the liberal and more of a moral obligation to fight the system than the illegal immigrant does.

By absolving the illegal of any agency or ability to do harm, it makes the white liberal feel good about himself that he's providing a better life for someone.

illegals, of course, are highly capable individuals with agency and working minds but unfortunately for the black worker, many of them are just as regressive and protectionist as the racist, white working class. There's no strong workers solidarity there much less one that would be capable of pressuring for better wages and working conditions across the board. So it's not just their status as undocumented that makes them a hindrance.
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Mexicans in U.S. send cash home in record numbers

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Mexicans in U.S. send cash home in record numbers
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Mexicans living abroad sent cash home in record numbers last year. The vast majority of the cash came from those living in the United States.
Two main forces drove the trend: Mexico's weak currency, the peso, and President Trump's threat to slap a tax on cash shipments, known as remittances, sent from the U.S. to Mexico.

Mexicans sent home $26.1 billion from January to November 2017, according to figures released Tuesday by the central bank of Mexico. That's the most ever recorded and better than the $24.1 billion sent in 2016 over the same period.

Barring a major setback in December, the total annual figure for 2017 is on pace to hit another record high.

Remittances are one of Mexico's top sources of foreign income, outpacing oil exports, which totaled $18.5 billion between January and October, according to the most recent figures available at the Bank of Mexico. Manufacturing exports are the top source of foreign income for Mexico.

Related: Argentina's peso got hit again in 2017

Mexico's peso is one of the main drivers of the trend. It remains slightly above its all-time low hit in January 2017. One dollar is worth about 19.50 pesos.

The peso plunged after Trump won the 2016 election, triggered by fears that he would tear up NAFTA, the trade agreement, or impose tariffs on Mexican exports north of the border. Those fears haven't been realized and the peso is starting 2018 up slightly from where it began last year.

Trump specifically threatened to slap a tax on Mexican remittances to pay for his proposed border wall. Economists say that particular threat has also encouraged Mexicans to send money home before any restrictions are put in place.

Experts add that the devastating earthquake in and around Mexico City in September likely caused Mexicans to send extra cash home last fall to loved ones trying to recover and rebuild.

Remittances in October hit $2.6 billion, the highest for any month last year, according to Mexico's central bank.

Some of Mexico's poorest states tend to receive the most in remittances, making the extra cash a key source of income for millions of Mexicans living in poverty.

Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly stated that remittances are Mexico's top source of foreign income.

CNNMoney (New York) First published January 2, 2018: 2:13 PM ET
 

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I'm a black American. Would you like to come talk your shyt to my face.

I doubt it. We've done this dance before. :unimpressed:

The only disrespect here is you praising these men working for pennies and living in squalor as some sort of success tale for black Americans.

Your inability to criticize these white men who are hiring illegal immigrants and paying black adult substandard wages while pillaging black communities is what is disrespectful.

You LARPING as a black man on the internet is also disrespectful.
Its not pennies. One guy makes 57% more than he previously did

Try again.

Cant make higher wages with no job or no job experience, dumbass
 

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Black working class has to stop letting the “haves” speak for them; that includes both black and white “haves”.

As each day passes, it’s becoming clear that they clearly don’t give a damn, or they’re simply not able to relate.

These jobs at the chicken factory are a start. Many come into the plant making more than they did at a previous job. You work your way up, and you become a supervisor and/or manager. It’s not easy to move out of state, so once you become a supervisor or manager, then you can take that experience right on down to the coast or Jackson, and become a supervisor at some of these bigger corporations in the bigger MS cities. I used to work at the shipyard in Pascagoula. All you needed was just some supervisory experience, and you could get on as a foreman or general foreman. They made enough to where you could have a decent life in the state, and I encountered many brothas who were in these positions. Man, they’ve got the Nissan plant and Toyota plant. All you just need is a start, and jobs like this chicken factory provide that. Not everyone is going to be 6 figs gang, and not everyone is going to have a cubical job in a corporate building.

Got quite a few elitist amongst our ranks, and the black working class better stop having them speak for them or persuading you to feel guilty about a job or a certain position you take.
 

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It shouldn't be ignored that the *real* problem here is the so-called job creators:

"But as American chicken consumption boomed in the 1980s, manufacturers went in search of “cheaper and more exploitable workers,” Dr. Stuesse wrote, chiefly Latin American immigrants.

At the time, the Koch plant in Morton was owned by a local company, B.C. Rogers Poultry, which organized efforts to recruit Hispanics from the Texas border as early as 1977. Soon, the company was operating a sizable effort it called “The Hispanic Project,” bringing in thousands of workers and housing them in trailers.
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It also should not be ignored that these jobs come with horrible working conditions and that this company recently settled a lawsuit over labor abuses (without admitting any wrongdoing, so it will likely continue). I hope this leads to the organizing of a strong union here to demand better working conditions, but given that Mississippi is an at-will state, I'm not so sure. Anyway, this is a complicated subject, and I am not necessarily in favor of unchecked immigration, but I think it's being lost on some what the real problem is so to speak.


This.
 

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I would've been moved from there. As a teen in Menphis Tn, being in and out of Ms and Ar I knew I had to get away from all three states immediately if I wanted to make a good living.
 
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