Then we should should listen to those people.
Ice Cube: Hip Hop Was Engineered To Fill Up The Penitentiaries
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That's exactly how intelligence works. That's why Einstein's theory of relativity is still being taught, several decades after his death. We learn from history and the experiences of others.
Thinking that you can't learn from a person because of their age or how long they've been in their chosen career is the opposite of intelligence.
In The Zone '98
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Based on the math Cube presented in this clip. He was a key cog in the machine for profit.
The enlightenment now is disingenuous.
I enjoy all the music. But I really don't wanna hear the label made me do it.
He was a key cog in the machine, so he knows how the machine works.
Him sharing that information is a good thing. He has become the Spook Who Sat By The Door.
label ownership/investors being tied in with the prison industrial complex at some level wouldn't be surprising. at the same time, cube and other artists were useful fools and/or they embraced fukkery for dividends.
the extreme lack of diversity in mainstream "hip hop" has been very frustrating for a while now. calling this out is good but i hope he's helping to market and promote music/artists/programs that make a difference. at least he can try to offset his own damage. there's a lot of people being fooled into thinking the music doesn't have as much of an impact as it does.
the extreme lack of diversity in mainstream "hip hop" has been very frustrating for a while now. calling this out is good but i hope he's helping to market and promote music/artists/programs that make a difference. at least he can try to offset his own damage. there's a lot of people being fooled into thinking the music doesn't have as much of an impact as it does.
In The Zone '98
Superstar
Morally, you should stop making the music if you know the content benefactors actively don't want balance.
I keep hearing rumors that they don't want balance. But if you know they don't want balance and they want YOU to promote the imbalance. You should step away.
Couldas, shouldas, and what-ifs are cute, but that's not where we are. The reality is that somebody who has seen how the sausage is made is speaking out. Instead of killing the messenger, we should heed the message.
this is like when the gang founder/leader says he regrets that his "club" is an instrument of evil, meanwhile their creation is wreaking havoc on society just like they made it to do
ice cube must think we're all dumb and haven't already seen this shyt for what it is. He's not even the first mf to say it
ThatTruth777
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Xtraz2
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i saw this but wasn’t surprised by cube saying it, seems like his intelligence has regressed.
Its a strange phenomenon, because if you look at his early interviews and music they are profound and ground breaking (early 90s)
it’s ironic he says something like this because he’s the one responsible for introducing gangsta rap, he even constantly takes credit for it in his music, nobody told him stop making conscious rap, but he switched it up because The Chronic and Doggystyle was selling; gangsta lyrics with funk dance music, so what does he do? Make a g funk party song like Bop Gun and follow suite….not sure how the record companies responsible for that.
During the east west fued era in the mid 90s he makes the West Side Connection group launching attacks at NY critics of west coast gangsta rap music (who once again ironically scoffed at west coast music overly gangsta content and lack of substance) Cubes response was we gangsta so fukk the hippity hop sound yall came with
Enter the late 90s when NY shifted the direction of rap to catering to a club audience, Cube comes with We Be Clubbing… followed by a Don Mega persona to compete with NY and Jay Zs mob boss style rap that was popular
Now was all this pushed by the record company to sell records? Maybe….but cube definitely profited from it if it was, and never spoke up until a Bill Maher interview?
Its a strange phenomenon, because if you look at his early interviews and music they are profound and ground breaking (early 90s)
it’s ironic he says something like this because he’s the one responsible for introducing gangsta rap, he even constantly takes credit for it in his music, nobody told him stop making conscious rap, but he switched it up because The Chronic and Doggystyle was selling; gangsta lyrics with funk dance music, so what does he do? Make a g funk party song like Bop Gun and follow suite….not sure how the record companies responsible for that.
During the east west fued era in the mid 90s he makes the West Side Connection group launching attacks at NY critics of west coast gangsta rap music (who once again ironically scoffed at west coast music overly gangsta content and lack of substance) Cubes response was we gangsta so fukk the hippity hop sound yall came with
Enter the late 90s when NY shifted the direction of rap to catering to a club audience, Cube comes with We Be Clubbing… followed by a Don Mega persona to compete with NY and Jay Zs mob boss style rap that was popular
Now was all this pushed by the record company to sell records? Maybe….but cube definitely profited from it if it was, and never spoke up until a Bill Maher interview?
Xtraz2
Superstar
Where is he really speaking out about it though? On a random episode of Bill Maher he mentions it, which is a contradiction to his own song “Gangsta rap made me do it” where he actually defends gangsta rap and takes aim at people who blame rap for crime saying crime has been around way before gangsta rap and rap has nothing to do with it
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Who are these “same” people who own labels and prisons?
Also, isn’t he responsible for ushering in gangsta rap to the masses with NWA?
Why did he go gangsta and mob boss deep into his career?
Clown shyt and I’m tired of hearing this damn conspiracy theory. The politicians, industry leaders, elders of the community all fought against 2 Live Crew and NWA all to be to told to “suck a dikk” by Pac. This is what was wanted and now it’s all we get.
Also, isn’t he responsible for ushering in gangsta rap to the masses with NWA?
Why did he go gangsta and mob boss deep into his career?
Clown shyt and I’m tired of hearing this damn conspiracy theory. The politicians, industry leaders, elders of the community all fought against 2 Live Crew and NWA all to be to told to “suck a dikk” by Pac. This is what was wanted and now it’s all we get.
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"Gangsta rap made me do it" came out almost 10 years ago. Cube is 10 years older than he was then. You don't think that his viewpoints could've changed in all that time? Look how much the world has changed in just the last five years!Where is he really speaking out about it though? On a random episode of Bill Maher he mentions it, which is a contradiction to his own song “Gangsta rap made me do it” where he actually defends gangsta rap and takes aim at people who blame rap for crime saying crime has been around way before gangsta rap and rap has nothing to do with it
Everybody keeps pointing to what Cube (and all the other artists who are saying the same thing) said THEN. We need to listen to what they're saying NOW.
Xtraz2
Superstar
Gangsta rap made me do it came out way later in his career, maybe you’re young, to me that was like yesterday, that was a mature Cube rapping about his decades long career and putting things in perspective
Even if we want to follow your argument, this is what he just put out
How is this any different?
First off, I appreciate you saying I'm still young. As a resident of Larry Holmes Gardens, I needed to hear that.
Now, to answer your question. Cube still makes gangster rap. Ice T just put out a really dope gangster rap video project. Suga Free & Kokane dropped one of the best albums of 2023. Rick Ross still talks that street ish. NONE OF THAT INVALIDATES WHAT ICE CUBE SAID ABOUT THE INDUSTRY'S PRISON PIPELINE AGENDA.
It's because I'm a fully grown and mature man that I am able to separate the inside information that Ice Cube gave from the music that he still makes. Again, message not messenger.
