Ice Cube: Hip Hop Was Engineered To Fill Up The Penitentiaries

[CHICAGO]

Which labels own which prisons?

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[hex]

I STRONGLY DOUBT CUBE KNEW
THE MEDIA CONGLOMERATES OWNED THE
PRIVATE PRISONS WHEN HE DID THOSE THINGS.

HES CLEARLY TELLING WHAT HAPPENED
TO HIM AND HOW HE WAS MANIPULATED
INTO GOING ALONG WITH THE PLAN
NOT KNOWING THESE PPL WERE INVESTED
IN THE PRISON SYSTEM.

NOW THAT HE HAS NEW INFORMATION,
HES DISQUALIFIED FROM EVER SPEAKING ON THE TRUTH?

YOU DUDES SOUND CRAZY.



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I'm gonna assume you haven't listened to Cube in a long, long time because he never stopped rapping about street shyt.

He was rapping about gangsta shyt all over that Mount Westmore project, which came out earlier this year. Talking about hitting licks and not checking in with his PO.

Based on this interview you'd think Cube was rapping like Cole.

Fred.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Slightly different but this topic made me think of this

 

[MidwestD]

Hip hop labels will push whatever SELLS. Back in the early '90s, people were buying records from
Public Enemy, P.R.T., X-Clan, Paris, Digable Planets, etc., so they got push from the labels. Fans
need to take some of the responsibility for where shyt is currently at.

 

[African Peasant]

This topic always brings out the dumbest coli posters.

Again they have a choice to say yes or no to it.

Of course, it's that simple...

 

[Wild self]

Lord knows cube and other brehs had a choice... they chose to sell their souls because negative rap music is more profitable. Cube had space to say this shyt 30 years ago

Thats why Chuck D can sleep sound at night, knowing that he did right for his people. After you hit 50 years of age, you begin to think about your MORTALITY and what you contributed towards others. The last thing you want on your mind as you approach your golden years is, "Damn, I spent over 30 years-the best, most productive years of my life- doing bullshyt and now I got nothing but misery and negativity to show for it."

Should have stayed with The BombSquad and fought the power, but you instead chose fast money and shock value lyrics post 3rd solo album. Now, you look like a foolish old man, Cube.

 

[JustCKing]

Semantics. Like I said, I don't want ANY drugs, death, and destruction being pushed on Black people. I don't care about the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, or any other "yeah, buts".
If your only response to our kids dying today is that Scarface & Kool G Rap were on that gangster shyt 30 years ago, then there's nothing else to talk about. I'm focused on the now.

My point about this is, people on here use now as a scapegoar because they don't like the music itself and the "oh, they pushing Black genocide" is the narrative to justify not liking it. You can't sit up there and tell me that you enjoyed it 30 years ago and are now looking at these kids today rapping the same lyrics as degenerates. You don't want a solution, you just want to get rid of this whole era because you don't like the music not because you actually care about the message being pushed. Because if we're being intellectually honest here, you would've been all for banning gangsta rap in real time. We don't get now without the past.

Ice Cube, thirty years ago was telling us this:


Punk motherfukkers tryin' to ban hip-hop
fukk R&B and the runnin' man

^^^ If they banned ALL Hip Hop today, the issues in this country would still exist because its an America problem. The content in Hip Hop is a symptom of the disease that has existed since Pilgrims first landed in America.

 

[010101]

you can be loud passionate & wrong

most will follow whoever is the loudest & most constant voice

..........

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[Rollie Forbes]

My point about this is, people on here use now as a scapegoar because they don't like the music itself and the "oh, they pushing Black genocide" is the narrative to justify not liking it. You can't sit up there and tell me that you enjoyed it 30 years ago and are now looking at these kids today rapping the same lyrics as degenerates. You don't want a solution, you just want to get rid of this whole era because you don't like the music not because you actually care about the message being pushed. Because if we're being intellectually honest here, you would've been all for banning gangsta rap in real time. We don't get now without the past.

Ice Cube, thirty years ago was telling us this:


Punk motherfukkers tryin' to ban hip-hop
fukk R&B and the runnin' man

^^^ If they banned ALL Hip Hop today, the issues in this country would still exist because its an America problem. The content in Hip Hop is a symptom of the disease that has existed since Pilgrims first landed in America.

I always laugh whenever I see the bolded used as an argument. When many of us were kids 30 years ago, we liked picking our noses & we thought that farts & burps were funny. We hated vegetables. We had a bedtime. We enjoyed depravity in our music because we were children who didn't understand the impact of the music that we thought was dope. The argument that we should be the same people that we were when we mentally-underdeveloped children makes no sense. People grow. People learn. People gain clarity and wisdom as they get older. Suggesting that we should be in a state of mental arrested development (no pun intended) just so we can turn up is almost as damaging as the negativity in the music.

We had balance in our music back then, too. We had NWA, but we also had De La. We had New Edition, Whitney Houston, Kid & Play, and Public Enemy on the radio and on tv to counter 2 Live Crew, Too $hort, and Live Squad. Our kids don't get that balance; all they get to see are the same old mumble mouthed, smoked out, pill-popping, autotuned high school dropouts who only talk about smoking on opp packs, the tacky ice on their necks, and taking each other's bytches. Our kids deserve the same balance that we had.

Also, I never once mentioned banning gangster rap. Spoiler alert: I enjoy gangster rap. I listen to it all the time. But I'm an adult. I'm a parent. I don't let my kids listen to it, because I know better today than I did 30 years ago. By the way, before you go calling me a hypocrite, I also enjoy alcohol and a good cigar. I don't let my kids consume those things, either.
Back to my point, I don't want to ban rap. Nor do I want to ban Hip-Hop. I was raised in the culture, and I still love the culture. However, my love for the culture doesn't make me blind to the fact that there is an evil agenda in place and Black people are dying while the white man gets rich from our demise.

 

[JustCKing]

I always laugh whenever I see the bolded used as an argument. When many of us were kids 30 years ago, we liked picking our noses & we thought that farts & burps were funny. We hated vegetables. We had a bedtime. We enjoyed depravity in our music because we were children who didn't understand the impact of the music that we thought was dope. The argument that we should be the same people that we were when we mentally-underdeveloped children makes no sense. People grow. People learn. People gain clarity and wisdom as they get older. Suggesting that we should be in a state of mental arrested development (no pun intended) just so we can turn up is almost as damaging as the negativity in the music.

We had balance in our music back then, too. We had NWA, but we also had De La. We had New Edition, Whitney Houston, Kid & Play, and Public Enemy on the radio and on tv to counter 2 Live Crew, Too $hort, and Live Squad. Our kids don't get that balance; all they get to see are the same old mumble mouthed, smoked out, pill-popping, autotuned high school dropouts who only talk about smoking on opp packs, the tacky ice on their necks, and taking each other's bytches. Our kids deserve the same balance that we had.

Also, I never once mentioned banning gangster rap. Spoiler alert: I enjoy gangster rap. I listen to it all the time. But I'm an adult. I'm a parent. I don't let my kids listen to it, because I know better today than I did 30 years ago. By the way, before you go calling me a hypocrite, I also enjoy alcohol and a good cigar. I don't let my kids consume those things, either.
Back to my point, I don't want to ban rap. Nor do I want to ban Hip-Hop. I was raised in the culture, and I still love the culture. However, my love for the culture doesn't make me blind to the fact that there is an evil agenda in place and Black people are dying while the white man gets rich from our demise.

Being children doesn't excuse anything when you're condemning today's children as degenerates. It also ignores the fact that adults were bumping this music in real time. And it's not so much of what you listened to as a child, you probably STILL listen to and champion the same music even though you condemn that same content today.

Today's children have more options and choices than we ever did. We had radio and television. We had to wait, sit through songs/artists we may not have to liked just to see the songs/artists we did. Today, these children can pull up whatever on Youtube or social media.

And you just proved my point. Here you are dissing the rappers of today when our parents did the same to the artists of our era. The artists of our era smoked out, popped pills, were school drop outs, talking about murdering their enemies with the same tacky ice on their necks, talking about the same things. There is a reason why the Bling Bling Era is called the Bling Bling era.

If you're condemning the message in the music, but you still enjoy gangsta rap, then what are you on about. If you listened to this music as a child, but are taking this condescending high road as a parent, how did you access that music as a child?

The only evil agenda taking place is the one in which everyone is still blinded to the fact that this world is controlled by dark forces.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Being children doesn't excuse anything when you're condemning today's children as degenerates. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, can you re-word that?   It also ignores the fact that adults were bumping this music in real time. Adults listening to explicit content isn't the issue, I don't know what point you're trying to make. And it's not so much of what you listened to as a child, you probably STILL listen to and champion the same music even though you condemn that same content today. You clearly didn't read my post. I said that I enjoy gangster rap. I also said that I'm grown. Grown grown. I am well past the age of influence. My taste in music has nothing to do with the evil agenda that Ice Cube mentioned, however.

Today's children have more options and choices than we ever did. We had radio and television. We had to wait, sit through songs/artists we may not have to liked just to see the songs/artists we did. Today, these children can pull up whatever on Youtube or social media. Today's kids have more access to music. So what? All that means is that today's youth have more avenues to be exposed to debauchery and evil. That's not necessarily a good thing, Breh.

And you just proved my point. Here you are dissing the rappers of today when our parents did the same to the artists of our era. That's called growth. Our parents had wisdom & discernment that we didn't have at the time. The artists of our era smoked out, popped pills, were school drop outs, talking about murdering their enemies with the same tacky ice on their necks, talking about the same things. There is a reason why the Bling Bling Era is called the Bling Bling era. Again, I don't know what point you're trying to make. We absolutely had debauchery in our music, violence in our video games, and murder in our movies. How does any of that disqualify Ice Cube's point that there was and os an evil agenda in place?

If you're condemning the message in the music, but you still enjoy gangsta rap, then what are you on about. I'm talking about the same thing that Ice Cube/Special Ed/C. Delores Tucker/Daylyt/Dr. Umar/Cee-Lo Green, etc. were talking about: the evil agenda that is leading our youth on a path of destruction while the white man sits back and gets paid. If you listened to this music as a child, but are taking this condescending high road as a parent, how did you access that music as a child? I accessed the music on the radio, on tv, on CD, and cassette. What does that have to do with anything?

The only evil agenda taking place is the one in which everyone is still blinded to the fact that this world is controlled by dark forces. Wait...you spent all that time arguing with me just to agree in the end? I'm done, Breh. It's almost lunch time, so we can end here. You enjoy the rest of your day.

 

[ORDER_66]

I dont dispute it... used to be way more positive rap on the radio and look at it now everything fukking dumb... I blame everything from the top down the people in control make the rules

 

[I'm Blackman]

I always laugh whenever I see the bolded used as an argument. When many of us were kids 30 years ago, we liked picking our noses & we thought that farts & burps were funny. We hated vegetables. We had a bedtime. We enjoyed depravity in our music because we were children who didn't understand the impact of the music that we thought was dope. The argument that we should be the same people that we were when we mentally-underdeveloped children makes no sense. People grow. People learn. People gain clarity and wisdom as they get older. Suggesting that we should be in a state of mental arrested development (no pun intended) just so we can turn up is almost as damaging as the negativity in the music.

We had balance in our music back then, too. We had NWA, but we also had De La. We had New Edition, Whitney Houston, Kid & Play, and Public Enemy on the radio and on tv to counter 2 Live Crew, Too $hort, and Live Squad. Our kids don't get that balance; all they get to see are the same old mumble mouthed, smoked out, pill-popping, autotuned high school dropouts who only talk about smoking on opp packs, the tacky ice on their necks, and taking each other's bytches. Our kids deserve the same balance that we had.

Also, I never once mentioned banning gangster rap. Spoiler alert: I enjoy gangster rap. I listen to it all the time. But I'm an adult. I'm a parent. I don't let my kids listen to it, because I know better today than I did 30 years ago. By the way, before you go calling me a hypocrite, I also enjoy alcohol and a good cigar. I don't let my kids consume those things, either.
Back to my point, I don't want to ban rap. Nor do I want to ban Hip-Hop. I was raised in the culture, and I still love the culture. However, my love for the culture doesn't make me blind to the fact that there is an evil agenda in place and Black people are dying while the white man gets rich from our demise.

man on fire...
preach

 

[Rollie Forbes]

This just dropped a few minutes ago. S/O to Special Ed.

 

[get these nets]

Yeah, people who were around then or who followed Cube's career know that he was around the late Minister Khalid Muhammad, and Min. Farakhan in the early to mid 90s. Both of whom spoke out to the public about the entertainment industry.

Even at the height of his solo career, he was around influences that were opening his eyes about the bigger world, the bigger picture, etc. Death Certificate literally is divided into Death and Life sides.

He made a conscious decision to make the music and promote the content that he did., well into his career.

Kam addresses the issue. Starts off by saying that he and Cube have no problems with each other, then he addresses Special Ed and Cube comments

cued

Dec 20, 2023