I will never accept modern flamboyant gay people

Draje

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:snoop: you're confused. i have nothing else to say

Nikka, prove that you can't be born gay. You do realize chromosomes and genes aren't the only things that account for human attributes, right? The chemical makeup of the body and brain can also influence these things.

I'm still waiting for peer reviewed scientific sources that state you can't be born gay.
 

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you don't have to,that's your right

i won't either but at the same time i don't waste my own time/energy hating on them anymore,its just an area of life that i will never have an intrinsic innerstanding of because i don't possess the same feelings/genes that they do

at least they put their lifestyle on the surface so i know to stay away,i'd be more concerned with those that repress the feeling,urge,whatever and come out of left field with it(pawwse) and go for a trojan horse
 

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I wonder how much of that behavior is "being yourself" and how much is pure bullshyt theatrics.
 

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No...

You're not a seamstress until you sew some clothes, no matter how fond you might be of the idea.

No matter how much you've thought about killing someone, you're not a murderer until you kill someone.:what:

If you have a salad for every meal, are you a vegetarian? Not if the salad has bacon bits on it.

You are defined by your actions.

Your mistake is comparing sexual identity to a bunch of things that aren't sexual identity. A heterosexual male is a heterosexual male even if he's a virgib his entire life because he's still attracted to women.

Sexual attraction is only defined by what you're attracted to, not what you do.
 

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You're agreeing with me and then disagreeing with an argument that I did not make. It is not disrespectful to compare the justifications used by bigots while promoting bigotry, especially when the language and logic are completely alike. We are not arguing institutional racism, systemic discrimination, or anything else. Again, there is no American parallel to the black experience when it comes to those issues.

I'm not arguing whether blacks have been put through more hell, I'm arguing that individuals who unjustifiably dislike black folks and black culture, use the same phrases as those who unjustifiably dislike homosexual behavior and culture.



I see what you're doing here and it is inconsistent. In my context, bigoted language is just that. You are not absolved from being a bigot because you believe that being gay is unnatural (or insert other belief here). Again, we are not discussing institutional racism, we are discussing language and how we identify the unique and harmless behavior of certain individuals within a collective to be indicative of the collective itself, or unworthy of acceptance in society.

And that, is the exact same nonsense white bigots have used since it became unfashionable to use the word ******.

:youngsabo:

With all of the examples of bigotry, why use the treatment of black people for your comparison?
 

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I swear If I read anyone compare fagg0t to being black I would lose it.

What the hell is wrong with yall?
 

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With all of the examples of bigotry, why use the treatment of black people for your comparison?

Because my argument applies. I could use gender as well.

With all of the examples of bigotry against black people, why engage in the same rhetoric against other unfairly maligned groups?
 

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Because my argument applies. I could use gender as well.
There are better and more comparable examples out there. Why use black folks?

With all of the examples of bigotry against black people, why engage in the same rhetoric against other unfairly maligned groups?

I have not engaged in any of that. I don't cosign people that do. Maybe you should ask them:manny:
 

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Because my argument applies. I could use gender as well.

With all of the examples of bigotry against black people, why engage in the same rhetoric against other unfairly maligned groups?

Child molesters are also maligned as well. You try to perverse the course of nature you deserve whatever you get.

Black people are born black. There is no such thing as a gay gene.
 

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Your mistake is comparing sexual identity to a bunch of things that aren't sexual identity. A heterosexual male is a heterosexual male even if he's a virgib his entire life because he's still attracted to women.

Sexual attraction is only defined by what you're attracted to, not what you do.

Your mistake is calling non-sexual activity "sexual identity".

If a male is a "virgin his entire life", he has no sexual activity - his "sexual identity" is non-existent. He's not a "heterosexual" male until he puts his penis inside of a woman.

Sexual attraction /= sexual identity.

You have no "identity" of any type until you achieve the actions of that identity. You are "identified" as a black person at birth, because you have physically achieved being born black.

Hope that helps.
 

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I don't think it's right to judge someone by their outward appearance. So yes I can compare being discriminated against simply because of my color to a flamboyantly gay man being discriminated against because he dresses like a woman or whatever.

That's COMPLETELY different than comparing Civil rights with Gay rights.
 

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This thread is about flamboyant gay folks tho, not your low-key, about their business gay folks. And in those cases, the flamboyant ones choose to make a spectacle of themselves and fairly/unfairly invite whatever hatred that comes their way.

Black people on the other hand cannot choose their skin pigmentation and the hate they receive because of it.

This is why this comparison is silly and insulting.
 
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