I watched Revenge of the Sith again

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The last 7 words aged really poorly :snoop:



Definitely not just by default. It was lazily made even more so than clones was, but just by default it’s better even with it being one of the most lazily shot movies I’ve ever seen with it being almost entirely shot on green screen and in shot reverse shot for every scene.

Phantom menace is an incoherent mess that has no main character, no clear antagonist, no established cause of the main conflict, no clear motivation for the bad guys, a bunch of terrible kid actors, almost every decision made and every line of dialogue makes no sense, the ending multiplication effect was really bad, and there was jar jar. The only redeeming qualities of the movie were the score, the podrace, and the fight choreography, admittedly all three of those things being great.


Clones was worse too. It too was nearly entirely shot on green screen which aged horribly, wasted too much time on trivial shyt, never establishes the cause of the central conflict or the motivations of the bad guys on top of not introducing dooku until close to 2/3 of the way into the movie and not even bothering to explain who he is or what he’s doing, the acting is much worse, sections of the plot are way too convoluted, there’s connecting scenes for the clone stuff that’s clearly missing, characters again do stupid things that make no sense, the film spends an offensive amount of time stealing shots, imagery, or set pieces from other movies which include empire strikes back without having a clue why they worked in those movies, and then there’s even more time spent in clones on the WOAT romance plot. It was nominated for a few razzie awards for a reason.
If you combine all the flaws of the first two films you still get Revenge of the Sith, you had two films to get it right and still screw it up. I remember reading somewhere that the shooting script for Revenge of the Sith wasn't ready until two weeks before filming and you can certainly tell
 

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Movie is still superpiff, my second favorite Star Wars sequel/prequel (I don't rank the OG that should stand on it's own forever).

Empire then Sith then the rest.

Star Wars/Empire/Sith are the three great SW movies for me. The rest go from lots of fun to not so much fun, I can find stuff in all of them - TLJ is the only SW movie ever that I haven't rewatched yet since my first viewing.

I've seen Solo like thrice,for reference. Will do a marathon and get to TLJ again...I guess.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what exactly do you like about the movie

Almost everything.

The visuals are amazing, from the opening shot- easily my second favorite of the saga (OG being the first) to the final shot of th Beru's with Luke. You camcan also tell Lucas had really warmed back up to filmmaking, keeping his shots dynamic and creative. Small shyt like the camera spinning in circles with those bombs or the closeups to Grievous/Kenobis eyes ("You must realize...You are doomed"). Anakin sitting down by himself in the Jedi master circle while the sun goes down and he's contemplating his betrayal. The order 66 montage is incredible. I can go on but that montage takes me to the soundtrack. JOHN WILLIAMS is always the strong part of any SW movie and Sith is the same.

The story was also fukking dope. I love how Anakin's undoing was force visions, which harkens back to Luke in Empire and shows why Yoda/Obi-Wan are so :whoa::ufdup: when he leaves because they've seen it before and it makes you wonder if Vader is doing that shyt knowing full well that's how he got fukked.

There's so much in there that glued it to the OGs. The actors did their things,Hayden nailed it, Ewan was always a brilliant young Obi-Wan.

I mean, I guess you dislike these exact same shyts and we can go back and forth but it is what it is - to me it legitimized the prequels, I liked TPM and mostly loved AOTC but RotS made the trilogy worth it.

Edit: haven't even touched on the action. Five different lightsaber duels and all different in style and execution. Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan was like a chessmatch, the backdrop of the chaos above Coruscant was metaphoric. Obi-Wan making short work of Grievous, which makes Kylo fighting Finn and Rey even more ridiculous than it is on it's own. Mace vs the Emperor was more like the OG fights, slow and calculated - when Mace shatters the window :wow:. Yoda vs Emperor only got interesting when they lose their sabers and Anakin vs Obi-Wan was just amazing.
 
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Almost everything.

The visuals are amazing, from the opening shot- easily my second favorite of the saga (OG being the first) to the final shot of th Beru's with Luke. You camcan also tell Lucas had really warmed back up to filmmaking, keeping his shots dynamic and creative. Small shyt like the camera spinning in circles with those bombs or the closeups to Grievous/Kenobis eyes ("You must realize...You are doomed"). Anakin sitting down by himself in the Jedi master circle while the sun goes down and he's contemplating his betrayal. The order 66 montage is incredible. I can go on but that montage takes me to the soundtrack. JOHN WILLIAMS is always the strong part of any SW movie and Sith is the same.

The story was also fukking dope. I love how Anakin's undoing was force visions, which harkens back to Luke in Empire and shows why Yoda/Obi-Wan are so :whoa::ufdup: when he leaves because they've seen it before and it makes you wonder if Vader is doing that shyt knowing full well that's how he got fukked.

There's so much in there that glued it to the OGs. The actors did their things,Hayden nailed it, Ewan was always a brilliant young Obi-Wan.

I mean, I guess you dislike these exact same shyts and we can go back and forth but it is what it is - to me it legitimized the prequels, I liked TPM and mostly loved AOTC but RotS made the trilogy worth it.

Edit: haven't even touched on the action. Five different lightsaber duels and all different in style and execution. Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan was like a chessmatch, the backdrop of the chaos above Coruscant was metaphoric. Obi-Wan making short work of Grievous, which makes Kylo fighting Finn and Rey even more ridiculous than it is on it's own. Mace vs the Emperor was more like the OG fights, slow and calculated - when Mace shatters the window :wow:. Yoda vs Emperor only got interesting when they lose their sabers and Anakin vs Obi-Wan was just amazing.

Yeah I don't know how dude is saying this is the worst of the prequels. Legit never heard a single person say that until then:mjtf:

Only real flaws I see is the overuse of green screen/cgi & the quickness of Anakin become full on Vader. Dude went from "What have I done???" to slaughtering children 15 minutes later
 

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Almost everything.

The visuals are amazing, from the opening shot- easily my second favorite of the saga (OG being the first) to the final shot of th Beru's with Luke. You camcan also tell Lucas had really warmed back up to filmmaking, keeping his shots dynamic and creative. Small shyt like the camera spinning in circles with those bombs or the closeups to Grievous/Kenobis eyes ("You must realize...You are doomed"). Anakin sitting down by himself in the Jedi master circle while the sun goes down and he's contemplating his betrayal. The order 66 montage is incredible. I can go on but that montage takes me to the soundtrack. JOHN WILLIAMS is always the strong part of any SW movie and Sith is the same.

The story was also fukking dope. I love how Anakin's undoing was force visions, which harkens back to Luke in Empire and shows why Yoda/Obi-Wan are so :whoa::ufdup: when he leaves because they've seen it before and it makes you wonder if Vader is doing that shyt knowing full well that's how he got fukked.

There's so much in there that glued it to the OGs. The actors did their things,Hayden nailed it, Ewan was always a brilliant young Obi-Wan.

I mean, I guess you dislike these exact same shyts and we can go back and forth but it is what it is - to me it legitimized the prequels, I liked TPM and mostly loved AOTC but RotS made the trilogy worth it.

Edit: haven't even touched on the action. Five different lightsaber duels and all different in style and execution. Dooku vs Anakin and Obi-Wan was like a chessmatch, the backdrop of the chaos above Coruscant was metaphoric. Obi-Wan making short work of Grievous, which makes Kylo fighting Finn and Rey even more ridiculous than it is on it's own. Mace vs the Emperor was more like the OG fights, slow and calculated - when Mace shatters the window :wow:. Yoda vs Emperor only got interesting when they lose their sabers and Anakin vs Obi-Wan was just amazing.
Dap and rep even if I completely disagree with you, you made some really great points
 

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Yeah I don't know how dude is saying this is the worst of the prequels. Legit never heard a single person say that until then:mjtf:

Only real flaws I see is the overuse of green screen/cgi & the quickness of Anakin become full on Vader. Dude went from "What have I done???" to slaughtering children 15 minutes later
If you want to debate me about you can quote this "dude" directly :sas1:
 

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If you combine all the flaws of the first two films you still get Revenge of the Sith, you had two films to get it right and still screw it up. I remember reading somewhere that the shooting script for Revenge of the Sith wasn't ready until two weeks before filming and you can certainly tell
Well this just makes no sense at all. The romance plot gets less time than in clones, jar jar almost isn’t in the movie at all, the ending multiplication effect is down to just two settings, the bad guy’s motivation is clear in this movie, while it’s never even established in the other two, and there’s no kid actors in that one. It’s script is clearly the most rushed though. They didn’t get it right, but they didn’t get it as wrong as the other two.
 

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:manny: I liked the prequels. I'm not a Stan though. Except Phantom Menace, that shyt was boring. Jar Jar wasn't a breh cause of voice.

I critique them but they weren't horrible movies. I haven't watched the new shyt, guess it's supposed to be worse. Only watched a couple videos.
 
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