I think we can all agree that these are the only men who hit KING OF NEW YORK status....

[Awesome Wells]

Still more fans choosing illmatic over iww. Thats all they want is Nas making illmatic 2. I never heard no one say they want IWW2

Let me ask you, bro.

What is it about IWW that brings out this disapproval in you? Sh*t was dope! You can't hate it THAT much!

 

[Cladyclad]

Let me ask you, bro.

What is it about IWW that brings out this disapproval in you? Sh*t was dope! You can't hate it THAT much!

Not my opinion

Im going by what i been hearing since 1996

My opinion is not factored at all

 

[Awesome Wells]

Not my opinion

Im going by what i been hearing since 1996

My opinion is not factored at all

I'm asking for YOUR opinion.

How do you feel about IWW?

 

[Cladyclad]

I'm asking for YOUR opinion.

How do you feel about IWW?

Its really good. Not a classic imo

 

[Awesome Wells]

Its really good. Not a classic imo

 

[murksiderock]

Lot of Queens representation here. NY posters, outside looking in Queens does seem to have a large hand in shaping cultural movements in NY. Is this correct or closer to home are all the boroughs viewed the same?

I mean I know SI is kinda looked at like Jersey. But the other 4 boroughs, do yall view Queens as the major factor in hip hop and street trends?

 

[pawdalaw]

Somebody gotta explain how Run was never KONY.

Came to say this. Their grip on the game was so muthafkng hard around Raisng Hell album the city felt like a Natural Disaster occurred when they came to Detroit.


*it’s ok, maybe some of the brehs were too young or not born yet. I love the conversation though.

 

[iliketurtles]

50

 

[Finesse]

Lot of Queens representation here. NY posters, outside looking in Queens does seem to have a large hand in shaping cultural movements in NY. Is this correct or closer to home are all the boroughs viewed the same?

I mean I know SI is kinda looked at like Jersey. But the other 4 boroughs, do yall view Queens as the major factor in hip hop and street trends?

Ironically enough Queens is looked at as the least "hood' borough because of its structure.


Its more "suburban" than the other borough's per se due to it being more house and neighborhood based than project and building based. However those rare specific hoods and projects in Queens tend to spit out the rawest and most game changing talent in Hip Hop.


Its prolly Brooklyn - Harlem - Queens - Bronx.

But nowadays since there aint really nothing coming from Queens or Harlem its. Brooklyn / Bronx - Harlem - Queens.


Bronx being a factor in NY is a fairly new thing. The nucleus of culture and shyt in NY for the most part is a Brooklyn/Harlem thing. That is the largest concentration of black culture.


Looking at it from a historical sense Queens set off the hip hop thang in NY with Russ Simmons to RUN DMC to LL to Nas. But then when Biggie n Puff n Mase came thru it shifted to Brooklyn n Harlem then with Dame and Hov n Dipset it became a even more Brooklyn/Harlem thing. The Bad Boy to Rocafella shift as a whole prolly has alot to do with why Brooklyn/Harlem are so strong.


Its cause at the core of those movements of Bad Boy n RocaFella its Brooklyn and Harlem nikkas working together.


Rocafella clearly studied Bad Boy and did it their own way.

 

[Finesse]

Most NY nikkas grow up in apartments and project buildings not houses.

Queens nikkas different. This Fif and Nicki's neighborhood.


Nas aint grow up in no house tho. Queensbridge a project. The largest project in America I believe.

 

[Doctor Wily]

You not from NY bro. Trust me when I tell you when Nas had that title. He had it. No discussion.


You looking at it from a music or popularity or record sales standpoint. Im talking about it as a person who actually lives out here.

There's underground Nas songs that people play on the block to this day that the world has never heard of.

Nas was the king of queens but never NY

 

[murksiderock]

Ironically enough Queens is looked at as the least "hood' borough because of its structure.


Its more "suburban" than the other borough's per se due to it being more house and neighborhood based than project and building based. However those rare specific hoods and projects in Queens tend to spit out the rawest and most game changing talent in Hip Hop.


Its prolly Brooklyn - Harlem - Queens - Bronx.

But nowadays since there aint really nothing coming from Queens or Harlem its. Brooklyn / Bronx - Harlem - Queens.


Bronx being a factor in NY is a fairly new thing. The nucleus of culture and shyt in NY for the most part is a Brooklyn/Harlem thing. That is the largest concentration of black culture.


Looking at it from a historical sense Queens set off the hip hop thang in NY with Russ Simmons to RUN DMC to LL to Nas. But then when Biggie n Puff n Mase came thru it shifted to Brooklyn n Harlem then with Dame and Hov n Dipset it became a even more Brooklyn/Harlem thing. The Bad Boy to Rocafella shift as a whole prolly has alot to do with why Brooklyn/Harlem are so strong.


Its cause at the core of those movements of Bad Boy n RocaFella its Brooklyn and Harlem nikkas working together.


Rocafella clearly studied Bad Boy and did it their own way.

When I used to be in Albany many years back, Borough dudes used to tell me I reminded them of Queens cats. I heard this from guys from almost every borough like a half-dozen times. Never been to Queens, only place I ever went to was Manhattan but I've always wanted to check Queens out...

Speaking of Manhattan, you never hear guys really shout out Manhattan. Its really only Harlem, you'll hear about Dyckman and Washington Heights but that's it. Is that because there's fewer Black areas in Manhattan? Comparatively speaking, compared to other races, I didn't see hardly any black people in Manhattan, we were in the Dyckman/Washington Heights area, then kinda Lower Manhattan I think...

I've just always wondered why you hear "Harlem" but never much "Manhattan"...

Most NY nikkas grow up in apartments and project buildings not houses.

Queens nikkas different. This Fif and Nicki's neighborhood.


Nas aint grow up in no house tho. Queensbridge a project. The largest project in America I believe.

 

[mson]

Imagine selling 156k first week in 2002 and being the king of new york

You thought Summer Jam was staring you
Its starring me
Even in my absence
My presence is felt
That got to tell you
Im the king if nothing else

You crying on the radio
Im learning to swim

The irony

 

[Finesse]

When I used to be in Albany many years back, Borough dudes used to tell me I reminded them of Queens cats. I heard this from guys from almost every borough like a half-dozen times. Never been to Queens, only place I ever went to was Manhattan but I've always wanted to check Queens out...

Speaking of Manhattan, you never hear guys really shout out Manhattan. Its really only Harlem, you'll hear about Dyckman and Washington Heights but that's it. Is that because there's fewer Black areas in Manhattan? Comparatively speaking, compared to other races, I didn't see hardly any black people in Manhattan, we were in the Dyckman/Washington Heights area, then kinda Lower Manhattan I think...

I've just always wondered why you hear "Harlem" but never much "Manhattan"...

Harlem is pretty much the only black enclave in Manhattan. Manhattan damn near a tourist spot outside of Harlem.

Harlem aint even that big either. Its just a couple blocks. You can go thru the whole harlem in a couple of hours.


Dont get it twisted tho either. Queens nikkas get alot of respect, they are seen as smoother dudes usually. If someone says that they remind you of a Queens nikka they aint tryin to play you or nothing. Its just that Brooklyn and Bronx nikkas are seen as the rowdy one's, Harlem nikkas are the fly guys and Queens nikkas are the smooth nikkas.


Lloyd Banks is a prime example of a "Queens nikka"

 

[Street Knowledge]

Because there wasn't a king of NY in 2006. NY rap was done on that level by then. Game over.




Ironic considering how Wayne was so influenced by NYC; but he was the one by then.

Yeah a New Orleans rapper sampling a Jay Z song has nothing to do with a KONY debate lmao.

Wayne was not “the one” in 2006. He wasn’t even the biggest southern rapper of 2006