I saw this old school picture on XXL instagram yesterday and all I could do was sigh

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What happened to hip hop man?
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I mean, some of the opening lines alone just make you go :banderas:

"i bomb atomically, socrates philosophies and hypotheses..."

"i ain't a killa but don't push me, revenge is like the sweetest joy next to...."

"What's my muthaf*ckin' name? jigga!!!..."

"one...one two..."

"straight outta compton..."

"ooh la la la...."

I can't remember the last time an opening line dropped for some new music and I was in the whip like :banderas: :dj2:, today's music is all beats, most of these nikkaz mumblin' and autotunin' sh*t :scusthov:

EDIT: As much as I hate MC Gusto, Ross's opening line in "fukkwitmeyouknowigotit" is :dj2: status, outside of that can't remember any modern rapper that makes me go :banderas: in the whip on some new sh*t
 

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your point is valid yet you have Drake in your avi and Drake is the biggest cancer to hip-hop

so which is it?
 

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But Kirby, Cole and Kendrick are hot NOW. this is their era :dwillhuh:

You read my mind, I thought the same thing. These nikkas attention spans are short as fukk, they need new artists every five minutes.

And times change, the pendulum will come back around :manny: Personally I'm not mad that the kids have their own style.

Let's not act like the 90s and early 2000s didn't have some wild shyt as well, Nas showed up to MTV VMAs like this in '99:

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Bro bad music happened back them but those rappers were slandered and were shut down immediately. Knock it the fukk off. Biters back in the day were called out. Now its no problem to be a blatant biter i.e. Desiigner. For every MC Hammer in the 90s you had 10 DMX's. Today its the opposite. Just stop it. And i dont give a fukk about how "theres still good great music out there you just have to find it" why the fukk do we have to "find" it? Why cant it be mass promoted? Music is entertainment, not analytical research. "Finding" good music is only something hardcore music fans do but not the average person. So no, its not the fukking same. Back in the day you could turn on a radio and hear Scarface "I Seen A man Die". Now we gotta dig deep on soundcloud just to find songs on the same caliber of that kind of substance? fukk out of here

I agree that there is much less competitiveness and more of a sense of letting everybody rock instead of calling out wack shyt.

But as far as, 'why do I have to find it,' the times have just changed. EVERYTHING was played on the radio back then because there was no internet. The radio is garbage now because the vast majority of music is found online, soundcloud, YouTube, etc. Your average consumer nowadays goes through IG, Vines, Twitter, SnapChat, YouTube, etc etc all day, that's no longer something for music nerds or hardcore fans only.

And also white people realized how much money there is to be made in hip-hop so of course the airwaves are flooded with shyt that's practically pop music... In the 90s, early 2000s they still had their own genre with bubblegum pop like Britney, the boy bands like N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, etc so they barely paid attention to hip-hop. Now hip-hop has become the mainstream culture so it's kind of fragmented in two, the *main* stuff you hear on the radio which is mainly for white people and the good stuff that's actually for us that mostly exists on the Internet, etc.

You kinda sound :flabbynsick: yelling at the kids to get off your lawn...
 

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It can't be mass promoted because rappers are a lot smarter these days and don't have to become slaves just to make money and sell songs. You sound old and bitter, its 2016 and if you don't know where to find music you like then that's your problem

I also agree that way more rappers are choosing to remain independent these days and self-promote through social media, etc rather than sign deals with big labels and go broke just for some radio exposure and big budget videos.

These people are not at the same level or influence as the people i named. Its not just about owning your masters or being on an "independent" label or being self made. its about being self made on a large scale. Dame Suge J Prince Irv was going to put their money together to form a distribution company. a fukking distribution company. thats the kind of bossing up im talking about. not little shyt like that Fetty Wap and Chance The Rapper shyt

the rap bosses in the 90s were way closer to getting on that level then any of these nikkas today are

Not everyone wants to be on a large scale tho. A lot of nikkas are perfectly content as indies that make enough money to live off of just by going on tours, putting out music consistently, and being their own bosses. Curren$y, Nipsey Hussle, Dom Kennedy, Freddie Gibbs come to mind immediately. Not everyone WANTS to be Diddy. And certainly not if you have to sell your soul to a label to get there, like we have since learned a lot of rappers in the 90s and 2000s had to do.
 

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Exact same crybaby threads been getting made bout the current state of hip hop since the moment I stumbled onto :hamster:like 15 years ago,

Agreed. Literally all of this has been said since I started posting at :hamster: in 2002, damn near 15 years ago.

I remember when people were bytching about Dipset and Young Jeezy dumbing down Hip Hop with their lyrics. Now there are nostalgic threads about em.
 

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Gay thread.



Young thug easily is shytting on most of 90's rappers
Take a long walk off a short cliff and think about what the fukk you just said on the way down.
thugga stans doing the most :scust:
stan a rapper who wears women's clothes and sounds like his voice is going in and out of puberty brehs :scust:
 

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I also agree that way more rappers are choosing to remain independent these days and self-promote through social media, etc rather than sign deals with big labels and go broke just for some radio exposure and big budget videos.

Not everyone wants to be on a large scale tho. A lot of nikkas are perfectly content as indies that make enough money to live off of just by going on tours, putting out music consistently, and being their own bosses. Curren$y, Nipsey Hussle, Dom Kennedy, Freddie Gibbs come to mind immediately. Not everyone WANTS to be Diddy. And certainly not if you have to sell your soul to a label to get there, like we have since learned a lot of rappers in the 90s and 2000s had to do.

Also 9/10 times the dudes flying under the radar are always the most 'normal.' Just like big, mainstream artists like Diddy were wearing shiny ass suits in the 90s while lesser known artists had more leeway to do their own thing, there are a lot of lesser known artists out now that are still pretty 'regular.'











Isaiah Rashad if TDE would let this nikka put out an album :comeon:


I like the kids from Rae Sremmurd, too




I remember DMX saying when he first started getting big they wanted him to wear shiny suits and patterned club shirts like Puff and it was a big fight for him to do his own thing and have his own authentic look.
 
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This is a crazy and unreasonable idea.







Imma search for it and give it a read later. I take it there was some good convo in there?
Basically it's an argument of "Is Nipsey underachieving because he isn't Snoop Dogg"?

Which is pretty stupid
 

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Why dont dudes never put up pics of like Kendrick, Cole, Badass, KRIT etc like they aint still here doing it today?

And I get that Joey and Big KRIT arent mainstream big but like even those days you had kinda wack commercial music too.

Only the good will be remembered.
 
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