"I respect Puffy as a Businessman but as a musician, He HURT the artform "Dr Dre

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[bigillwill06]

explain.

Dre straight up jacked the entire beat of a popular song and added his name as a producer but barely changed anything. Kind of what diddy does yet Dre makes it seem like his methods are so much more original.

 

[R=G]

Puffy us good as using people. Simple as that. Dre can produce for Westcoast or Eastcoast acts. Puffy could never be a stand out for a aspiring Westcoast act.

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

Dre straight up jacked the entire beat of a popular song and added his name as a producer but barely changed anything. Kind of what diddy does yet Dre makes it seem like his methods are so much more original.

Dre didn't do that beat Mark The 45 King and Em did.

 

[Doin2Much Williams]

In otherwords, both Puffy and Dre are a pair of phony phuck phaces who's entire craft/claim to fame is jackin' entire songs and interpoloating them as their own/creating nothing new.


Gotcha, sriracha.



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[Bruce LeRoy]

The same Dre that's used a ton of ghost producers behind him all these years? He really shouldn't have said anything because he's just as guilty with the sampling. I don't even need to post the Dre track lol

You do know Ultramagnetic MC's and EPMD sampled this first, right?

And the California Love remix used the same exact sample that Diamond D used for "Confused"

 

[JustCKing]

Puffy never sampled shyt...as he don’t make beats. Dude shouldn’t even be in the conversation with Dre. In the case of people sampling shyt and not doing much to it or not chopping nothing up....who’s more skilled, the person that says sample this? Or the person that says sample this AND physically makes the beat? It don’t matter if Dre looped some shyt, did nothing and pressed export. Puffy ain’t even doing that. I can’t honor that. Everyone knows Dre has the reputation of a technician in the studio. What the fukk is Puffy doing? Smh, Dre probably insulted at all this talk of him and Puff

If I bring you a record to sample, that is a production credit. Especially if I'm telling you how I want it to sound. This is why the Pete Rock version isn't on Ready To Die. The version he did wasn't polished enough. Puff brought that sample to the Trackmasters and they did what they do best. It isn't as raw as Pete Rock's version and sounds more "made for radio". Puff didn't manually do anything, but we see how his involvement changed the record and the course of his and Biggie's careers.

 

[Knicksman20]

You do know Ultramagnetic MC's and EPMD sampled this first, right?

And the California Love remix used the same exact sample that Diamond D used for "Confused"

That has no bearing on what we're talking about in this thread lol

 

[JustCKing]

Didn't he write most of her Album?

No. He co-wrote and co-produced these with Manuel Seal and Mariah:

It's Like That
We Belong Together
Shake It Off
Get Your Number

 

[Big Boss]

Scott Storch and Mel Man was behind a lot of Dre’s hits. Dudes tripping right now. If you’re so good and can beat him step up then. The man publicly said he wants you, ain’t no I’m too busy fam.

Fam this is old

Dre said this back in 99

 

[spliz]

No. He co-wrote and co-produced these with Manuel Seal and Mariah:

It's Like That
We Belong Together
Shake It Off
Get Your Number

nikkas getting shyt twisted like Mariah ain’t write her biggest shyt. Lol

 

[bigillwill06]

Dre didn't do that beat Mark The 45 King and Em did.

o ok i stand corrected...my bad yall i just assumed dre did that.

 

[Rice N Beans]

Things with Puff are definitely egregious cases. Yeah, you can find examples of this I'm sure in most producer's catalog somewhere, but I have no stronger connection with lazy sampling than music related to Puff.

 

[pawdalaw]

nikkas getting shyt twisted like Mariah ain’t write her biggest shyt. Lol

She's certainly humble enough to give JD his flowers. She speaks glowingly of him.

 

[Edub]

He ain’t lie