"I respect Puffy as a Businessman but as a musician, He HURT the artform "Dr Dre

Wacky D

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Now we're giving Diddy credit for the work done by the hitmen?:usure:

Diddy wasn't out there creating music.

How are people letting Diddy disrespecting people like Dre, Premo, rZA, Pete, etc? Diddy ain't no musician.

Dre is a musician but he also had a lot of lazy sampling: nuthing but a g thang, i can't give him credit for that


Dr dre keeps a stable of his own hitmen himself, and his style changes depending on the producers in the studio with him.

Why does Dr dre need established legends like just blaze in the studio?
 

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You gotta look at it like this too champ.. He felt he can talk that shyt because He was already coming off of the NWA albums and alot of that shyt he and Yella did sounded nothing like I heard because Yella told me that they were the poster child of the sample laws so with N!ggaz4life they did less sampling.


You're leaving out the part where Dr dre jacks above the law's chit.
 

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Timbo and Swizz beats ain't happen yet, because how they gonna do, they just gonna a DJ play the records they produced lmao, that shyt is wack only way it would work is if they had the artist come out and perform those songs, and that's a lot to organize


It happened already.

Swizz smoked timbaland
 

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I don't know why people acting like a puffy is a beat maker or something, he was a producer, meaning he makes the decisions

He tell the beat maker what to sample, he tell them to redo the drums, turn up the vocals, mute out certain instrumentals, etc

Rza, and DJ Premier are beat makers, Dre is a producer and a beat maker, I mean Daz did most of that death row shyt, Dre barely made any beats, he just turned some knobbs and made the decisions, based on what he thought sounded the best that's what a producer does, in music a producer is equal to the director of a film, the film producer who finances the project is called the executive producer in music, that's what P diddy did, he just wrote the check for everything, that's why he has executive producer credits, and why he said I don't write rhymes I write checks

Diddy wants to perform his songs and have Dre perform his songs in versus

he not trying to play songs he produced like a DJ against JD or any of these other beat makers, that's not his lane, diddy wants to perform as an artist
, he was the biggest artist on bad boy after biggie died lmao, I don't know why people keep trying to shoehorn in this producer lane when he was never a producer lmao

Puffy should just take the JD fade and stfu.

Snoop already said in the IG Live that Dre won't do it. And everyone pretty much knows this anyway.

Puff/JD is a better matchup anyway. Dre doesn't crave the limelight and barely likes any of his old records :mindblown:
 

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Dr dre keeps a stable of his own hitmen himself, and his style changes depending on the producers in the studio with him.

Why does Dr dre need established legends like just blaze in the studio?

This lie needs to stop. Has Dre been accused by other produces like Daz for taking credit? Hell yeah he has. Has dude had help on shyt? Hell yeah he has. But there is more then enough evidence of Dre’s musicianship. These stories about all that other shyt are the exception and not the rule. Puffy on the other hand, has not made shyt in his life. However much someone wants to minimize what Dr Dre physically did in the studio, it’s a moot point, considering Puffy has done nothing.
 

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Can anyone show me footage of Puffy demonstrating as a musician.. i would LOVE to see that....

Here you go. Puffy shows up to the studio high on a lot of cocaine, lit as hell, bothering Pharrell while he in his workspace creating. Pharrell is a nice guy so he entertains him. The song is released and Puff has a writing credit. Yes, I definitely see how he’s on the level of a Dre or JD:unimpressed:


 

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Not the last time. Lol.


2 out of 3.

Most importantly, the one on stage.


This lie needs to stop. Has Dre been accused by other produces like Daz for taking credit? Hell yeah he has. Has dude had help on shyt? Hell yeah he has. But there is more then enough evidence of Dre’s musicianship. These stories about all that other shyt are the exception and not the rule. Puffy on the other hand, has not made shyt in his life. However much someone wants to minimize what Dr Dre physically did in the studio, it’s a moot point, considering Puffy has done nothing.


I wasn't vouching for Puffy.:ld:
 

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Trackmasters started on Puff’s team and they gave his team the techniques. Actually they have a bunch a beats they aren’t even credited for by Bad Boy.
:what: Why are you trying to give me a history lesson about them? WTF doesn't know who TM is?
 

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diddy was getting off on nostalgia smart marketing but as an artist its lazy.

a great modern example is from a couple years ago when tory lanez dropped a tape and it sampled mostly popular RnB songs people were calling him the king of sampling. shyt was disgusting to see in real time when nikkas like bink alchemist and madlib are still active dropping crazy sample flips.
Dr. Dre did the same shyt, matter of fact you can argue he hurt the artform the most not only with the lazy sampling but his promotion of gangsta rap
 
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