"I respect Puffy as a Businessman but as a musician, He HURT the artform "Dr Dre

[spliz]

This is versus, you gotta perform YOUR RECORDS

JD can't sing Mariah Carey songs, nobody wants to sit there and look at this ugly ass nikka while he play 20 R&B records

that's not what versus is, that shyt is wack, you can do that on radio, and have people call in and vote,

versus is about ARTIST vs ARTIST

Timbo and Swizz beats ain't happen yet, because how they gonna do, they just gonna a DJ play the records they produced lmao, that shyt is wack only way it would work is if they had the artist come out and perform those songs, and that's a lot to organize

Dre got a catalogue of songs that our his and songs he got verse on he can perform himself, and so does Diddy, that's why the match up make more sense

JD ain't got shyt he can perform, and made zero impact as an artist, nobody trying hear no goddamn snap music or any JD rap verses period

This whole post is wrong as fukk and shows u haven’t really watched Verzuz and Timbo and Swizz had like 3 Verzuz already. The latest one was just a few months back. Lol. Teddy Riley and Babyface was one of the first really big Verzuz battles. Alotta people chiming in on this shyt and haven’t even been watching these shyts. I can think of a select few people on my hand from this site that been watching all of em. @dora_da_destroyer is one of em.

 

[Cadillac]

I said it and what I said still remains true regardless of how Dre looks at Puff.

Why even bring it up for JD, when Dre don't see puffy as shyt either

Nvm the fact Dre will prolly never do this, puff better just accept the JD match

 

[Master Teacher]

This whole post is wrong as fukk and Timbo and Swizz had like 3 Verzuz already. The latest one was just a few months back. Lol

And none of them did numbers and made impact, I didn't know if they had let alone, zero impact

Also Timboland and Swizz is beats is rapping they records on they rematch, I'm looking at it now and the shyt is trash, because all they records, as artist are trash

Versus wasn't relevant until Lox and Dipset, they did it how its suppose to be, nobody wanna hear producers sit there and play records, that shyt is wack

Gucci and Jeezy only did numbers because of the beef, Fat Joe and Ja Rule was better than they shyt

JD is fukking wack

Diddy can do Victory, Bad Boy For Life, legit songs

shyt is a waste of time doing it any other way

 

[FaTaL]

I remember when they called puffy the magical sampler

 

[spliz]

Why even bring it up for JD, when Dre don't see puffy as shyt either

Nvm the fact Dre will prolly never do this, puff better just accept the JD match

shyt I agree Puff should’ve accepted it before. But now I don’t even want it. Cause these ATL nikkas is trippin.

 

[spliz]

And none of them did numbers and made impact, I didn't know if they had let alone, zero impact

Also Timboland and Swizz is beats is rapping they records on they rematch, I'm looking at it now and the shyt is trash, because all they records, as artist are trash

Versus wasn't relevant until Lox and Dipset, they did it how its suppose to be, nobody wanna hear producers sit there and play records, that shyt is wack

Gucci and Jeezy only did numbers because of the beef, Fat Joe and Ja Rule was better than they shyt

JD is fukking wack

Diddy can do Victory, Bad Boy For Life, legit songs

shyt is a waste of time doing it any other way

Son u are literally wrong and just making up shyt on the fly. Verzuz was super relevant before Lox and Dipset. U buggin tf out. They got all kinda awards, money, and corporate deals because of how relevant Verzuz was before Lox and Dipset. It’s the fukking REASON Lox and Dipset was able to do it so big in the first place. Verzuz was INITIALLY about producers and writers and yo ass came in here and said it’s about the artists first. U are WRONG brodie.

 

[spliz]

I'm not speaking on track masters, im speaking on Puff. He's done plenty of blatant shyt, or gave the Greenlight to songs that shouldn't be classified as productions. Look how lackluster the joint he did with Mase was compared to Check yourself with Cube and Das. Puff got a lot of lazy hits under his belt.

Trackmasters started on Puff’s team and they gave his team the techniques. Actually they have a bunch a beats they aren’t even credited for by Bad Boy.

 

[Master Teacher]

Son u are literally wrong and just making up shyt on the fly. Verzuz was super relevant before Lox and Dipset. U buggin tf out. They got all kinda awards, money, and corporate deals because of how relevant Verzuz was before Lox and Dipset. It’s the fukking REASON Lox and Dipset was able to do it so big in the first place. Verzuz was INITIALLY about producers and writers and yo ass came in here and said it’s about the artists first. U are WRONG brodie.

Once again they started it and the Lox and Dipset took it to a whole another level, that Swizz and Timbo don't got nowhere near has many views on youtube

nobody was talking about that shyt in twitter, or all over the internet

The Lox literally got the career restarted, had the damn Mayor of NY quoting Jadakiss and shyt and talking about the versus

you tripping

and above all else that shyt was wack, this nikka drinking and ablibing over records playing, that shyt is wack

nobody wanna see JD and Puffy scream at each other for 2 hours, while some old ass records that nobody listen to anymore playi n the background

that Timbo and Swizz versus is trash i just turned that shyt off

 

[spliz]

Once again they started it and the Lox and Dipset took it to a whole another level, that Swizz and Timbo don't got nowhere near has many views on youtube

nobody was talking about that shyt in twitter, or all over the internet

The Lox literally got the career restarted, had the damn Mayor of NY quoting Jadakiss and shyt and talking about the versus

you tripping

and above all else that shyt was wack, this nikka drinking and ablibing over records playing, that shyt is wack

nobody wanna see JD and Puffy scream at each other for 2 hours, while some old ass records that nobody listen to anymore playi n the background

that Timbo and Swizz versus is trash i just turned that shyt off

Bro. Are u one of them nikkas who argues to have the last word instead of listening? nikka there was Verzuz that had over a million viewers BEFORE Lox vs Dipset. They were breaking IG Live and had to do deals to increase the bandwidth. YOU DO NOT KNOW WTF U TALKING ABOUT. Verzuz started off as an IG live thing to help people get thru quarantine and the pandemic and it just kept growing. Lox and Dipset was huge but it got there based on what Verzuz was already doing for an entire year prior. This is easily researchable but u would rather argue to try to be right than take ur L and admit u were wrong. U a late nikka coming in trying to rewrite history bruh. Lol

 

[Master Teacher]

Bro. Are u one of them nikkas who argues to have the last word instead of listening? nikka there was Verzuz that had over a million viewers BEFORE Lox vs Dipset. They were breaking IG Live and had to do deals to increase the bandwidth. YOU DO NOT KNOW WTF U TALKING ABOUT. Verzuz started off as an IG live thing to help people get thru quarantine and the pandemic and it just kept growing. Lox and Dipset was huge but it got there based on what Verzuz was already doing for an entire year prior. This is easily researchable but u would rather argue to try to be right than take ur L and admit u were wrong. U a late nikka coming in trying to rewrite history bruh. Lol

That's when it started on just IG live, it's bigger than that now

It past the IG live stage, where you can just get on there and play some records,

Lox and Dipset set the standard period, any celebrate can get people on their live Lil JOn and T pain did it last year without no damn versus just going live with each other and played their songs

People want to see the artist compete now, that's why Ja Rule and Fat Joe was like the Dipset versus not like the old ones, the standard has been set

 

[spliz]

That's when it started on just IG live, it's bigger than that now

It past the IG live stage, where you can just get on there and play some records,

Lox and Dipset set the standard period, any celebrate can get people on their live Lil JOn and T pain did it last year without no damn versus just going live with each other and played their songs

People want to see the artist compete now, that's why Ja Rule and Fat Joe was like the Dipset versus not like the old ones, the standard has been set

nikka Lil Jon and T Pain WAS Verzuz. fukk is u talkin bout fam? U buggin out. Lol

 

[Master Teacher]

nikka Lil Jon and T Pain WAS Verzuz. fukk is u talkin bout fam? U buggin out. Lol

Yes when the Vesus dind't have any behind it

they did on IG Live they wasn't on stage together

it's evolved way passed that which is my point

JD wants to do it like how T Pain and Lil Jon did

Piddy wants to do it like Dipset vs the Lox and Ja vs Fat Joe

What can't understand, Diddy wasn't interested in versus before until the Lox showed the potential it had and how big can actually be

Jay-Z Vs Nas can literally be in a big ass arena on PPV, like I swear yall nikkaz have no vision, don't understand anything

 

[spliz]

Yes when the Vesus dind't have any behind it

they did on IG Live they wasn't on stage together

it's evolved way passed that which is my point

JD wants to do it like how T Pain and Lil Jon did

Piddy wants to do it like Dipset vs the Lox and Ja vs Fat Joe

What can't understand, Diddy wasn't interested in versus before until the Lox showed the potential it had and how big can actually be

Jay-Z Vs Nas can literally be in a big ass arena on PPV, like I swear yall nikkaz have no vision, don't understand anything

Diddy said it last year he would do it but only with Dre. He’s saying the same shyt this year. Dre was actually gonna do it last year but when he saw the audio issues Teddy Riley and Babyface had he backed out.

 

[old boy]

Diddy was the most blatant sampler, remixer in the game. Most everyone else would replay, remaster, tweak samples. Puff would just lay vocals over it. Then he would take classic tracks like "Peter Piper" and give it to some 1 hit wonder girl group that I can't even remember.

lol oh word you talking about a soloist named gina thompson which gave us the first appearance of missy as the character misdemeanor. this shyt used to KILL the tunnel

 

[TrifeGod]

true

add Madlin, Prince Paul, and a couple of these new ughh cats..V Don is superb