I feel the older generation of Blacks post MLK aren't criticized enough.

[Field Marshall Bradley]

There were weak people in every generation. The people in our generation who have turning up as a priotity over nation building are weak disgraces also. Being weak isnt a new thing, there were weak people on the first slave ship to land in the Americas, there were weak people who were part of the greatest African kingdoms. I dont have sympthy for weak people, they need to be held accountable for their errors just like every other group holds their weak people accountable. When getting drunk and high becomes a priority over being a productive human you are worthless. Drugs are not a necessity to live as a human, drugs are an escape for weak people who cannot handle reality.

nikka.... You don't know shyt about life..... That's that conservative talking point 101 shyt....

Half the powerful crackers who run shyt on dope.......And alcohol

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

well i don't know about your city. but in my city there was thing called crack... and it built a big generational gap where im from.

They were under attack by the US government.

Cointelpro, great society programs, the drug war, legalization and promotion of abortion, and controlling our free movement through hud policy, just naming a few of their tactics. I'm not even going to get into the mental and emotion torture created by the images hollywood, tv, the news, and the music industry were putting out.

Entire empires 10 times of our population, USSR, didn't make it through that time, I think we did better than could be expected with the entire weight and power Of the most powerful country in the world coming down on our necks.

No doubt. I wouldn't dream of dismissing the what our parents and their parents went through.

But this is my point. Not preciously my point but still. The current generation is overly criticized by that generation.We are still facing many of the trial and tribulations you stated in your post.

So my question is why does it seem older Blacks are so quick to write off this generation as kids who are "soft" "emotional" "weak" and only caring about "turning up" We're fighting White supremacy just like they did/are. Why make us the enemy?

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

That didn't cause any real strife bruh, let these nikkas tell it.

nikkas just can't wait to blame other nikkas. It's the American way

Not talking about blame I'm talking about criticism.

 

[Apollo Creed]

nikka.... You don't know shyt about life..... That's that conservative talking point 101 shyt....

Half the powerful crackers who run shyt on dope.......And alcohol

Well you go enjoy your dope and booze.

 

[miranda]

No doubt. I wouldn't dream of dismissing the what our parents and their parents went through.

But this is my point. Not preciously my point but still. The current generation is overly criticized by that generation.We are still facing many of the trial and tribulations you stated in your post.

So my question is why does it seem older Blacks are so quick to write off this generation as kids who are "soft" "emotional" "weak" and only caring about "turning up" We're fighting White supremacy just like they did/are. Why make us the enemy?

I don't think this generation is really fighting white supremacy.

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

I don't think this generation is really fighting white supremacy.

How do you figure? The current generation has a presence both on and offline. Since Trayvon Martins murder Black consciousness (for a lack of a better term) seems more visible.

 

[Digga38]

I will take it a step further in stating that older Black middle class elites and politicians that have actively co-opted and assisted American Apartheid are not criticized enough, which is why people try and shame the Black rebels in Baltimore for rebelling against a black political regime that has made them the 6th poorest city in the country.

yet the mayor is still in office and not one call was made for her to resign by your generation?

 

[Digga38]

I don't think this generation is really fighting white supremacy.

they arent they are being used by it.....national police force and body cams all thanks to you negros marching in the heat

 

[Digga38]

it was lost when we chose MLK over Malcolm

it as simple as that.....

Malcolm had an actual code of conduct that he really followed

 

[feelosofer]

yet the mayor is still in office and not one call was made for her to resign by your generation?

they arent they are being used by it.....national police force and body cams all thanks to you negros marching in the heat

This is where the older generation and I am including myself needs to step in more. I think this generation has a lot of energy pent up but they are aiming in the wrong direction and with a grenade launcher instead of a laser.

 

[kp404]

yet the mayor is still in office and not one call was made for her to resign by your generation?

You still lack reading comprehension. Where did I say the mayor is responsible? So you think the poverty in Baltimore is her fault? What will calling for her resignation do? I stated clearly here and other threads that its an amalgamation of fed, state, and local policies and practices that are embedded in the system that exasperate racialized oppression in America (hope I didn't go over your head there); See, the rebels on the ground understand the situation better than you because they are coming from firsthand knowledge and general care for their situation. They understand that changing the mayor is useless as is any other person in the government. They understand that the people are interchangeable, its the system, policies and practices that are foundational.

When you stop trolling one day, you'll actually understand the things we discuss on the coli.

 

[feelosofer]

it was lost when we chose MLK over Malcolm

it as simple as that.....

Malcolm had an actual code of conduct that he really followed

I once did an interview with a 106-year old Black man back in 06 for a local media outlet. Dude saw the Malcolm and Martin revolutions in real time. He said in short, even in the 50's and 60's people were not ready for what Malcolm was asking his people to do, they were scared of the potential resistance that it would cause. Martin was easier to get behind in part because A) His revolution was televised and covered in the media B) A lot of things like Brown vs. BOE gave his platform an easier jumping off point. When Malcolm was trying to get the word out he essentially has to rely on NOI and other Black leaders of the time frame. To put it short Malcolm was too far ahead of his time even then. Which is why had to be stopped as soon as possible.

 

[KOohbt]

yet the mayor is still in office and not one call was made for her to resign by your generation?

You gotta have someone funded and hand pick by the community to run and a supporting cast also in you pocket before you start replacing the mayor.

Then you can start changing local policy in your city. Can't do that until you have the community organized and behind an agenda that is created by your community.
That would mean you have to have neighborhoods organized and people familiar with each other and what each other do for a living.

That means you gotta have yourself organized and well versed.

It's not as simple as you guys think. But it is at the same time pretty simple.

 

[ltheghost]

I will take it a step further in stating that older Black middle class elites and politicians that have actively co-opted and assisted American Apartheid are not criticized enough, which is why people try and shame the Black rebels in Baltimore for rebelling against a black political regime that has made them the 6th poorest city in the country. Of course the Black elites don't deserve the majority of the blame for white supremacy, but they have a historical hand in facilitating oppression

I'll go one step further and say that older Black Middle Class Elites and Upper class are the modern day house negros. They are keeping the system in place and are the first ones to call for calm and understanding or even PRAYING when shyt hits the fan. "Go to Church" " Be Non-violent". They want to keep the status quo because they have never known anything beyond the MLK civil rights era and anything else scares the hell out of them.

 

[kp404]

I'll go one step further and say that older Black Middle Class Elites and Upper class are the modern day house negros. They are keeping the system in place and are the first ones to call for calm and understanding or even PRAYING when shyt hits the fan. "Go to Church" " Be Non-violent". They want to keep the status quo because they have never known anything beyond the MLK civil rights era and anything else scares the hell out of them.

100% agree.

And @Digga38 I agree with your point about Malcolm over MLK, but you have to put it in historical context. The Civil Rights Era at that time wanted the nonviolent, interracial, utopian approach. When it failed, around 1965 is when the Black Power Era emerged and self-determination and Black self sufficiency took over and ruled; unfortunately, Malcolm had been killed by that time. Could you imagine if we had Malcolm during the actual Black Power Era???