I feel the older generation of Blacks post MLK aren't criticized enough.

KOohbt

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
13,454
Reputation
2,185
Daps
49,532
Reppin
NULL
Quit making excuses for weak minded people who turned to drug use. drugs exploited weak people and destroyed communities. You have millions of blacks who did not turn to drig use who lived in those same communities. The weak will power of those peoples created the illness point blank.
Facts and people get upset when you call out folks trying to hold people accountable and you know have a code of conduct.
 

Apollo Creed

Look at your face
Supporter
Joined
Feb 20, 2014
Messages
56,282
Reputation
13,518
Daps
211,778
Reppin
Handsome Boyz Ent
Facts and people get upset when you call out folks trying to hold people accountable and you know have a code of conduct.

Exactly, they killing us like flies right now and im suppose to feel sorry for some drug dealers and crack heads. I feel sorry for Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin, not some worthless bum who got turnt out because they tried crack because a friend told them too.
 

Kripplestyle

Beaker
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
253
Reputation
-30
Daps
440
Reppin
Chalkhill Road, London
There were weak people in every generation. The people in our generation who have turning up as a priotity over nation building are weak disgraces also. Being weak isnt a new thing, there were weak people on the first slave ship to land in the Americas, there were weak people who were part of the greatest African kingdoms. I dont have sympthy for weak people, they need to be held accountable for their errors just like every other group holds their weak people accountable. When getting drunk and high becomes a priority over being a productive human you are worthless. Drugs are not a necessity to live as a human, drugs are an escape for weak people who cannot handle reality.

I notice you lack any feeling toward "weak" people, and I also noticed how you dodged my questions.

  1. I decide to visit my local dealer and run errands for him/her. I make enough to open a supermarket. You would be okay with that?
  2. Why are these people weak? (I don't mean those who arrived on the slave ship)
If someone doesn't know why they're "weak", how in the hell are they supposed to change their condition?

It was people like Elijah Muhammad who also would be "weak" to your ridiculous standards, who could sympathize with his people and turn them FROM addicts to clean, civilized men and women. It wouldn't hurt to have understanding. You may feel I make "excuses", but I'm coming from a perspective of seeing daily, what a lack of guidance and an abundance of poverty can do to the mentality of people. I dislike drug dealers very strongly, though when I do have the occasional conversation with one; they've been stifled in some way or another. They actually had futures and things turned for the worse. Just because I take time to see both sides doesn't mean I approve of weakness and don't hold people accountable.
 

Apollo Creed

Look at your face
Supporter
Joined
Feb 20, 2014
Messages
56,282
Reputation
13,518
Daps
211,778
Reppin
Handsome Boyz Ent
I notice you lack any feeling toward "weak" people, and I also noticed how you dodged my questions.

  1. I decide to visit my local dealer and run errands for him/her. I make enough to open a supermarket. You would be okay with that?
  2. Why are these people weak? (I don't mean those who arrived on the slave ship)
If someone doesn't know why they're "weak", how in the hell are they supposed to change their condition?

It was people like Elijah Muhammad who also would be "weak" to your ridiculous standards, who could sympathize with his people and turn them FROM addicts to clean, civilized men and women. It wouldn't hurt to have understanding. You may feel I make "excuses", but I'm coming from a perspective of seeing daily, what a lack of guidance and an abundance of poverty can do to the mentality of people. I dislike drug dealers very strongly, though when I do have the occasional conversation with one; they've been stifled in some way or another. They actually had futures and things turned for the worse. Just because I take time to see both sides doesn't mean I approve of weakness and don't hold people accountable.

elijah Muhammad admits he was Weak and a drunken prior to meeting Master Fard Muhammad, same goes for Ali, Farrakhan, and Malcolm. You cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved, if you dont want to be saved i have no remorse for you as you are living with the results of your choices. Once again I have no remorse for people who are weak especially with 400 yrs of evidence that blacks need to build.
 

KOohbt

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
13,454
Reputation
2,185
Daps
49,532
Reppin
NULL
Exactly, they killing us like flies right now and im suppose to feel sorry for some drug dealers and crack heads. I feel sorry for Tamir Rice and Trayvon Martin, not some worthless bum who got turnt out because they tried crack because a friend told them too.
Exactly. We let these same weak people lead us too. Makes no since. The strong should be in charge of the weak. We should be controlling what the weak do. Instead we got weak folks leading and white folks doing what ever they want with our people. I choose to stand in front and direct the weak to where we want them to go. These weak people are our consumers and should be used as such like every other people.
 

Magic 8 Ball

Right on Cue
Joined
Jan 14, 2015
Messages
254
Reputation
760
Daps
805
Reppin
Pool Table
In the 70's and 80's the US was still optimistic about its future and the white neo liberals were pushing all type of agenda. They targeted the black community to destroy our family and business by throwing us a few bones and our parents bought them all line, sinker and hook.
 

Kripplestyle

Beaker
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
253
Reputation
-30
Daps
440
Reppin
Chalkhill Road, London
elijah Muhammad admits he was Weak and a drunken prior to meeting Master Fard Muhammad, same goes for Ali, Farrakhan, and Malcolm. You cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved, if you dont want to be saved i have no remorse for you as you are living with the results of your choices. Once again I have no remorse for people who are weak especially with 400 yrs of evidence that blacks need to build.

I see you won't answer my two questions. Let's see if I can get you answer two completely different questions.

  1. If we didn't intergrate under MLK, would we have built by now?
  2. After continuing to rebuild and having your creations destroyed time after time, would you feel encouraged to build?
 

Apollo Creed

Look at your face
Supporter
Joined
Feb 20, 2014
Messages
56,282
Reputation
13,518
Daps
211,778
Reppin
Handsome Boyz Ent
I see you won't answer my two questions. Let's see if I can get you answer two completely different questions.

  1. If we didn't intergrate under MLK, would we have built by now?
  2. After continuing to rebuild and having your creations destroyed time after time, would you feel encouraged to build?

Keep your questions to yourself, I made my statement and stand by it.
 

brick james

John piffington
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
1,876
Reputation
170
Daps
4,001
Facts and people get upset when you call out folks trying to hold people accountable and you know have a code of conduct.

So how much blame do you give to the white man that flooded the streets with drugs to destroy our community and how much blame do you give to the black guy that sells the drugs and the black guy that uses the drugs? Holding the victims accountable isn't very productive
 

Kripplestyle

Beaker
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
253
Reputation
-30
Daps
440
Reppin
Chalkhill Road, London
Keep your questions to yourself, I made my statement and stand by it.

I'm not challenging your original statement with those questions (in case you haven't noticed). I'm attempting to find agreement with you and build a progressive rapport instead of a stagnating argument by shifting from disagreeing with you.
 

KOohbt

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
13,454
Reputation
2,185
Daps
49,532
Reppin
NULL
So how much blame do you give to the white man that flooded the streets with drugs to destroy our community and how much blame do you give to the black guy that sells the drugs and the black guy that uses the drugs? Holding the victims accountable isn't very productive
Check my post history after this if you wanna know my stance on things.

To answer. We know the white man set this up. He takes the blame completely. Now with that out of the way. We can't expect white folks to help us when they are the ones hurting us so instead of going on and on about what cacs are doing we should focus on what WE are doing. Which is letting weak people get off the hook as if we have the room for excuses. The white man has no excuses for what he does. We gotta take responsibility for everything or else we'll be going in circles and do nothing. So by code if you're on drugs you're weak you need to be dealt with so the strong can lead properly. Feel me?
 

miranda

Banned
Supporter
Joined
Dec 21, 2014
Messages
4,817
Reputation
1,080
Daps
15,483
They were under attack by the US government.

Cointelpro, great society programs, the drug war, legalization and promotion of abortion, and controlling our free movement through hud policy, just naming a few of their tactics. I'm not even going to get into the mental and emotion torture created by the images hollywood, tv, the news, and the music industry were putting out.

Entire empires 10 times of our population, USSR, didn't make it through that time, I think we did better than could be expected with the entire weight and power Of the most powerful country in the world coming down on our necks.
 
Top