How would Goku & Superman do against eachother's rogues

[Turk]

Only MM has a chance to can see Superman, and your examples in that paper are pre-New 52 by the way.

I keep telling yaw, Superman only gives his enemies a taste. Whenever he gets really annoyed and turns it on, it's not even close. Here's another example:



Yaw keep underrating Superman. He really can't be messed with.

No y'all keep wanking Superman. He is a powerful character but this limitless god he's being portrayed as is completely false. The flash can beat him, MM can beat him, Captain Marvel can beat him and the list goes on and on.

 

[Doomsday]

No y'all keep wanking Superman. He is a powerful character but this limitless god he's being portrayed as is completely false. The flash can beat him, MM can beat him, Captain Marvel can beat him and the list goes on and on.

Superman served Captain Marvel. I'll give you MM and Flash, but Flash dumbs himself down worse than Superman and Martian Manhunter doesn't have the personality to clash with Superman.

 

[42 Monks]

Flash shouldn't even brought into this. Dude is beyond God status in DC. I don't even know how many planes of existence he's taken control of anymore.

 

[Black Cac]

Shazam>superman

 

[Turk]

Superman served Captain Marvel. I'll give you MM and Flash, but Flash dumbs himself down worse than Superman and Martian Manhunter doesn't have the personality to clash with Superman.

Served CM when? In a serious fight the Flash would win. MM's TP alone would body Superman

 

[Black Cac]

Served CM when? In a serious fight the Flash would win. MM's TP alone would body Superman

Justice league unlimited and injustice lol. Writers make ways for superman to always win.

 

[Turk]

Justice league unlimited and injustice lol. Writers make ways for superman to always win.

Yeah the way MM was killed injustice was

 

[chico25]

Dude, the entire premise of the thread is comparing the two character's rogue gallery against each other. The villians wouldn't naturally chase the hero in most cases, but for the purpose of this thread, they would.

And Chi Chi is the strongest woman in the world in DBZ, but not in fiction or other universes, she isn't really equipped to fight many of these characters in any universe. The thing is, Superman as a character and opponent is just far more well rounded than Goku is. Goku is a specialist, he is great at fighting and martial arts and not too much else. Superman is good at countless things including fighting. Goku IS a better fighter than Superman, but Superman's abilities trump and surpass the gap in fighting skill he has against Goku. And so would Superman's villians. Goku is just not equipped to deal with a world of characters where nobody is scared to step to him.

The thread premise also lists a specific group of fights implying 1 on 1 and specified Lex in his battle suit not out prepping and scheming. That's something that was added in by that one guy. In 1 on 1 fights Goku kills everyone on that list with no problem because none of them have been shown to fight at the speed Goku does, none of them have a way to counter mid fight teleportation and none of them have resistance to high level energy attacks. Doomsday has the best chance unless Goku teleports him into the sun but I doubt Goku could survive doing that.

 

[chico25]

Thread starter threw lex in there

He specified Lex in battle suit and that it's a fight. You're the one giving Lex prep to set Goku up for murder.

 

[5n0man]

Justice league unlimited and injustice lol. Writers make ways for superman to always win.

He's as strong as he needs to be



























Or maybe he has terrible writers.

 

[5n0man]

. He is a powerful character but this limitless god he's being portrayed as is completely false.

Limitless because there is no limit to the bullshyt fukkery the writers are willing to come up with.









It's like everyone that's ever wrote a superman comic, had no previous knowledge of the character and made up their own powers and abilities.

But these nikkas wanna talk about dbz inconsistencies lol

 

[42 Monks]

Limitless because there is no limit to the bullshyt fukkery the writers are willing to come up with.









It's like everyone that's ever wrote a superman comic, had no previous knowledge of the character and made up their own powers and abilities.

But these nikkas wanna talk about dbz inconsistencies lol

I just think its a nobrainer because Goku never had to deal with anyone smart. He's dumb as hell and only gets away with it because he's powerful - whereas Supes is strong as hell, but it wouldn't matter if he weren't smart enough to make shyt happen. Supes goons test him in more ways than Goku's ever do.

That's really all it is. Some people over here trying to guess Superman's power levels and shyt.... don't even matter.

 

[Devilinurear]

He specified Lex in battle suit and that it's a fight. You're the one giving Lex prep to set Goku up for murder.

This is about physical fights. Lmao.

 

[TNC]

No y'all keep wanking Superman. He is a powerful character but this limitless god he's being portrayed as is completely false. The flash can beat him, MM can beat him, Captain Marvel can beat him and the list goes on and on.

You are missing the point. Superman CAN be beat, but when he does there are ALWAYS extenuating circumstances and he is almost always holding back. Superman is the type to match people's power initially, if you go all out the first time, you can get a KO win, but in the rematch after Superman knows what you are capable of, you already know he gets his win back, John Cena style.

These vs. battles are talking about both characters at their peak performance, at Superman's absolute best, he will not be beaten and that is the difference.

 

[TNC]

The thread premise also lists a specific group of fights implying 1 on 1 and specified Lex in his battle suit not out prepping and scheming. That's something that was added in by that one guy. In 1 on 1 fights Goku kills everyone on that list with no problem because none of them have been shown to fight at the speed Goku does, none of them have a way to counter mid fight teleportation and none of them have resistance to high level energy attacks. Doomsday has the best chance unless Goku teleports him into the sun but I doubt Goku could survive doing that.

First of all, Lex NOT prepping and scheming doesn't even make sense. That's like saying you are catching Batman off guard lol. Lex ALWAYS preps and schemes, even in a non prep battle AS SOON as it starts, Lex is going to scheme and analyze as the fight takes place.

Second, you are wrong in saying none of the Superman villians have resistance to high level energy attacks or mid fight teleportation. Half of them can do both of these. Seriously, Goku has no way to combat some of them like Brainiac because he can keep reforming and taking new bodies. Goku has no option for characters that can't be physically destroyed, Superman does and that is a huge difference.

And Goku can't teleport people anywhere there is no atmosphere because Goku cannot survive the vacuum of space whereas Superman and most of his villians can. This is not to shyt on Goku, but Goku's own mortal-ness is his weakness against these near demi-god like beings that don't have to breathe to live and can't be defeated purely by physical means.