How would Goku & Superman do against eachother's rogues

[TNC]

Did you even watch the show my dude
Half of the entire show was always about how Gohan had mad hidden power, from when he hit Raditz to when Supreme Kai unlocked his shyt, Gohan always had mad power on the low. Even 16 himself said "I know you have the power Gohan my sensors caught it." It's called hidden power for a reason pleghboii.


They don't even do that all the time, half the time they deflect blasts that are that weak. But that's not even really the reason why. If someone throws a pebble at you you know it's not going to do serious damage, but you'll still try to block it so you don't have to deal with the minor nuisance.

Dude, you are acting as if power levels are consistent and static. You gotta understand something about DBZ.... POWER LEVELS ARE BULLshyt. The ENTIRE reason they were even introduced into the series, were to show how inconsistent they are and how unreliable it is to judge a person's ability by their presentation. Don't judge a book by its cover, basically.

What someone's power level is, is NOT definitive of their overall ability or combat effectiveness. If anything the Piccolo/17 fight showed this as clear as any fight in the series.

If Superman's character was in the DBZ series, he'd measure at a low power level UNTIL he decided to up his strength levels, which does at nearly will. Superman is a broken character, he wouldn't even fit in the DBZ universe.

 

[jdashmaj]

Dude, you are acting as if power levels are consistent and static. You gotta understand something about DBZ.... POWER LEVELS ARE BULLshyt. The ENTIRE reason they were even introduced into the series, were to show how inconsistent they are and how unreliable it is to judge a person's ability by their presentation. Don't judge a book by its cover, basically.

What someone's power level is, is NOT definitive of their overall ability or combat effectiveness. If anything the Piccolo/17 fight showed this as clear as any fight in the series.

If Superman's character was in the DBZ series, he'd measure at a low power level UNTIL he decided to up his strength levels, which does at nearly will. Superman is a broken character, he wouldn't even fit in the DBZ universe.

Exactly that DBZ special about Vegeta brother which was canon shows just how inconsistent power levels are, like the enemies being equal in power to Freeza but Goten and Trunks were barely keeping up with them, because they weren't training but they had higher power levels. Or Gohan being stronger than SSJ 3 Goku after the Z-Sword training yet everything since on those recent movies Goku and Vegeta have been shown to be stronger. Power levels are all over the place in DBZ it's understandable that Supes power flutuates depending thd story because it's different writers, DBZ is one guy and he can't keep his own power scale straight.

 

[Devilinurear]

Say goku is framed for murder by lex Lutor and shown to be an dangerous alien and had the whole planet out to get him. How is goku fighting his way out of that?

 

[chico25]

Say goku is framed for murder by lex Lutor and shown to be an dangerous alien and had the whole planet out to get him. How is goku fighting his way out of that?

Punch Lex in the face thus killing him then go back to middle of no where to train until a threat or strong opponent shows up. Goku don't give a fukk what the people think of him or if they even know who he is.

 

[Devilinurear]

Punch Lex in the face thus killing him then go back to middle of no where to train until a threat or strong opponent shows up. Goku don't give a fukk what the people think of him or if they even know who he is.

So now he is wanted for murder of two people and has every human law enforcement out to get him. Not to mention everyone is against him and think he is dangerous

 

[chico25]

So now he is wanted for murder of two people and has every human law enforcement out to get him. Not to mention everyone is against him and think he is dangerous

Doesn't really matter, Goku spends his entire life in a small house in the woods away from all of society training, fishing and hunting his own food. No one would be likely to find him because he doesn't live like a normal guy.

 

[Killigraphy]

... until he reaches a new limit.

yes we've seen goku pummeled to the ground by a stronger enemy but by saga's end he will have found a way to overcome it.

technically goku was not strong enough by himself to stop majin buu but I bet you by the end of this current arc he will be strong enough to handle majin buu no problem. because he will always just keep getting stronger and stronger.

Which means he has "soft caps". He's never in a position wherein he reaches the nth of his abilites....Superman on the other hand, literally becomes a God. "Superman is as strong as he needs to be", that quote alone is why he will always beat anyone people match him up against, he's made OP on purpose.

 

[TNC]

Punch Lex in the face thus killing him then go back to middle of no where to train until a threat or strong opponent shows up. Goku don't give a fukk what the people think of him or if they even know who he is.

Goku is not just a cold blooded killer. He didn't even kill Frieza when he had the chance.

Of course he could kill Lex, but you'd better believe Lex would have it recorded and broadcasted across the planet and him and his family would be outcasted and hunted down. They aren't stopping wave after wave of DC Supervillians and Heroes hunting him down. Goku couldn't even kill his own vilians without help

 

[chico25]

Goku is not just a cold blooded killer. He didn't even kill Frieza when he had the chance.

Of course he could kill Lex, but you'd better believe Lex would have it recorded and broadcasted across the planet and him and his family would be outcasted and hunted down. They aren't stopping wave after wave of DC Supervillians and Heroes hunting him down. Goku couldn't even kill his own vilians without help

You guys are setting this scenario of Lex vs Goku with Lex acting in the same way he would against Superman but Goku is not like Superman. In character Goku and Lex would never meet because Goku wouldn't be as active saving people. What villains would actively hunt him when he doesn't fight crime? If they went after his family aka 2 super sayains and the strongest woman in the dbz universe they would get that work.

 

[TNC]

You guys are setting this scenario of Lex vs Goku with Lex acting in the same way he would against Superman but Goku is not like Superman. In character Goku and Lex would never meet because Goku wouldn't be as active saving people. What villains would actively hunt him when he doesn't fight crime? If they went after his family aka 2 super sayains and the strongest woman in the dbz universe they would get that work.

Dude, the entire premise of the thread is comparing the two character's rogue gallery against each other. The villians wouldn't naturally chase the hero in most cases, but for the purpose of this thread, they would.

And Chi Chi is the strongest woman in the world in DBZ, but not in fiction or other universes, she isn't really equipped to fight many of these characters in any universe. The thing is, Superman as a character and opponent is just far more well rounded than Goku is. Goku is a specialist, he is great at fighting and martial arts and not too much else. Superman is good at countless things including fighting. Goku IS a better fighter than Superman, but Superman's abilities trump and surpass the gap in fighting skill he has against Goku. And so would Superman's villians. Goku is just not equipped to deal with a world of characters where nobody is scared to step to him.

 

[Devilinurear]

You guys are setting this scenario of Lex vs Goku with Lex acting in the same way he would against Superman but Goku is not like Superman. In character Goku and Lex would never meet because Goku wouldn't be as active saving people. What villains would actively hunt him when he doesn't fight crime? If they went after his family aka 2 super sayains and the strongest woman in the dbz universe they would get that work.

Thread starter threw lex in there

 

[Jplaya2023]

Correction android18 is the strongest woman in dbz

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Correction android18 is the strongest woman in dbz

that would be vegeta

Spoiler

 

[Mensch Fontana]

Considering Supes doesnt kill like a fakkit, and gokus enemies are out to kill. I will have to say goku

 

[Doomsday]

Superman's power is far from limitless. Even the most powerful version of Superman still has limits. Idk where this false idea is coming from

Only MM has a chance to can see Superman, and your examples in that paper are pre-New 52 by the way.

I keep telling yaw, Superman only gives his enemies a taste. Whenever he gets really annoyed and turns it on, it's not even close. Here's another example:



Yaw keep underrating Superman. He really can't be messed with.