How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[AquaCityBoy]

It absolutely is your opinion. Pretty much every expert who's spoken on this says it will work. Centrists and conservative Dem's are more concerned about preserving norms than helping the American people. That's the problem here.

No. Laurence Tribe himself literally argued against the 14th amendment when Obama dealt with the debt ceiling, and even now he admits that this is risky:

Why I Changed My Mind on the Debt Limit

At this moment, at the White House as well as the Departments of Treasury and Justice, officials are debating a legal theory that previous presidents and any number of legal experts — including me — ruled out in 2011, when the Obama administration confronted a default.

portside.org

For a president to pick the lesser of two evils when no other option exists is the essence of constitutional leadership, not the action of a tyrant. And there is no doubt that ignoring the debt ceiling until Congress either raises or abolishes it is a lesser evil than leaving those with lawful claims against the Treasury out in the cold.


Of course, my solution might roil the bond markets and cause lenders to demand a premium for extending credit to the United States. But no path out of the dilemma is without risk.

So they economy is still in a state of flux unless Congress acts, which is why even the congresspeople and senators who support this say it's a last option.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

No. Laurence Tribe himself literally argued against the 14th amendment when Obama dealt with the debt ceiling, and even now he admits that this is risky:

Why I Changed My Mind on the Debt Limit

At this moment, at the White House as well as the Departments of Treasury and Justice, officials are debating a legal theory that previous presidents and any number of legal experts — including me — ruled out in 2011, when the Obama administration confronted a default.

portside.org

So they economy is still in a state of flux unless Congress acts, which is why even the congresspeople and senators who support this say it's a last option.

And yet in the most recent thing he made he said it would be difficult for a court to actually overturn. You're arguing semantics, we should be doing what helps the most people, not negotiating with racists and nazis. Be bold and help the people who put you in power. Not people who literally want to destroy the country.

It's insane that people think negotiating with the GOP is what we should be doing after they tried to literally overthrow the fukking government

You guys continue to do this stupid shyt where you claim the only option is to negotiate with people who are never negotiating in good faith and who's main goal is to as much harm as possible to large portions of people in this country. fukking stop it, there are better options and the option is currently the 14th amendment. Not using shows me that you agree with the GOP on harming those people. Which tbqh, Biden has a damn good track record of showing he does in fact agree with just that.

 

[Pressure]

People elected the Republican house. They're idiots, but as a leader he has to work with the will of the people.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

People elected the Republican house. They're idiots, but as a leader he has to work with the will of the people.

Gerrymanders elected the Republican house. Comon now you know that, for instance look what they've done to my state. It's currently one of the worst Gerrymander's in the country.

How Ron DeSantis Blew Up Black-Held Congressional Districts and May Have Broken Florida Law

DeSantis’ move, secretly aided by GOP-linked national operatives, came over the objections of the Republican-controlled state legislature.

www.propublica.org

This isn't the will of the people, its the will of white supremacists.

 

[Pressure]

Gerrymanders elected the Republican house. Comon now you know that, for instance look what they've done to my state. It's currently one of the worst Gerrymander's in the country.

How Ron DeSantis Blew Up Black-Held Congressional Districts and May Have Broken Florida Law

DeSantis’ move, secretly aided by GOP-linked national operatives, came over the objections of the Republican-controlled state legislature.

www.propublica.org

This isn't the will of the people, its the will of white supremacists.

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OK brehito

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

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OK brehito

 

[Payday23]

Democrats don't ever plan ahead. Its why there's no meaningful gun control, abortion rights, a republican SCOTUS and now a government on verge of default. Worst leadership I've ever seen.

 

[Pressure]

Democrats don't ever plan ahead. Its why there's no meaningful gun control, abortion rights, a republican SCOTUS and now a government on verge of default. Worst leadership I've ever seen.

This is silly. They planned ahead and there was a push to address this. Manchin and Sinema weren't with it and that is the narrative of the first 2 years.

 

[Payday23]

The democrats had a super majority when Obama was first in office. They could've gotten gun control, roe codified and a new SCOTUS justice if RBG would've retired. You're thinking of the last 2 years. I'm thinking of the last 15. Bernie was right. The Dems should've raised the debt limit in the lame duck. How many times are you moderate democrats going to be bitten by these snakes before you realize they aren't going to change? Instead we have mass shootings weekly, roe overturned, republican packed courts everywhere and a country about to default.

 

[Pressure]

The democrats had a super majority when Obama was first in office. They could've gotten gun control, roe codified and a new SCOTUS justice if RBG would've retired. You're thinking of the last 2 years. I'm thinking of the last 15. Bernie was right. The Dems should've raised the debt limit in the lame duck. How many times are you moderate democrats going to be bitten by these snakes before you realize they aren't going to change? Instead we have mass shootings weekly, roe overturned, republican packed courts everywhere and a country about to default.

People tell you where they stand and you keep ignoring it. Bernie sanders isn't a great politician. He's just a pie in the sky guy.



It's fun to sell people on ideas, it's another thing to be able to explain how these ideas will get implemented.

When confronted with those two realities, his response was he was going to hold rallies in their states and young people would get activated and replace those folks.

How's that working out?

 

[Payday23]

This is silly. They planned ahead and there was a push to address this. Manchin and Sinema weren't with it and that is the narrative of the first 2 years.

 

[Payday23]

People tell you where they stand and you keep ignoring it. Bernie sanders isn't a great politician. He's just a pie in the sky guy.

111th United States Congress - Wikipedia

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I guess the democrat motto should be: These aren't issues until the GOP uses it against us and then there's nothing we can do.

 

[Pressure]

I don't understand why people work themselves up over this every couple years. They always put on this show and they always end up passing a budget and increasing the debt limit.

Folks just playing politics and we shouldn't give them what they want.

 

[Pressure]

There's more to life than lamenting over politics every day.

 

[Payday23]

There's more to life than lamenting over politics every day.

Yep. Don't worry about the people who affect your everyday life. Nothing to see here.