How was the 94 Crime Bill viewed by black Americans during that time period

[dblive]

The 94 crime bill was correct: it fulfilled its intended purpose of making federally funded prisons and locking nikkas up.

I agree with this part of the statement

 

[TRY GOD]

A law can be correct in concept, but bad in application. That is what I mean. Black people wanted crime to go down and criminals locked up. However, we were naive in believing we wouldn’t be targeted during the application process. I’ve had cops plant crack on me at two separate times....both when I was in high school. That is when I realized something want right. Your post at #38 sounds like older black lawmakers juelzing their decision in the 90’s. I don’t remember a lot of black opposition to the law at the time. Was there opposition to the law, I’m sure there was, but it wasn’t the majority. In inner city Cincinnati, no black people in positions of power were speaking against the law

Bruh I JUST TOLD YOU AND PROVIDED PROOF THAT BLACK PEOPLE WERE AGAINST THE CRIME BILL. The CBC had their own bill that was rejected.

Black people wanted a solution, that doesn't mean they wanted the 94 crime bill. Black people wanted rehabilitation, the crime bill just gave them more prisons and more police. Black people didn't want that.

 

[Will Ross]

It was supported the same way people want gun laws after mass shootings.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

ALOT OF YOU STUPID fakkitS STILL WAS PISSING IN THE BED AND HAD shyt STAINS IN YOUR DRAWERS, WHAT THE fukk DO YALL KNOW ABOUT 1994? YALL ARE TOO STUPID TO SEARCH fukkING GOOGLE


@Piff Perkins @dj-method-x @Ghost Utmost @The_Sheff IM TIRED OF YOU UNEDUCATED RETARDED fakkitS TRYING TO USE BLACK PEOPLE AS A SCAPEGOAT. YOU fakkitS ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO USE GOOGLE.

I was in college

At the time

So why would I need to Google it to tell you how

I felt

At the time

?

Were you old enough to go to jail then?

Or is your experience limited to what you've Googled?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

From what I remember, since I was out of the Marine Corps for 2 years when it passed, is that Liberals convinced Black people that the law was unconstitutional. So, there were a LOT of us who were specifically against the Bill due to a lack of information as to its conditions. The major points of contention were the 'Three Strikes' and continuing education for inmates. Those two provision, more than anything else, allowed Liberals to polarize Black people's opinions against the Bill even though it would be more helpful to our communities than any others, in the long run, by keeping actual predators off the streets for longer periods of time.

After what I, personally, witnessed in California, in 1991, my opinion was anything to make the streets safer was a 'good' thing.​

 

[get these nets]

Since the crime bill passed, murder rates dropped from the crack era peak.

only the early 2000s & post Katrina spike in murders in New Orleans bucked the trend

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Anybody who lived that era remembers that we were in an unprecedented community crisis.

Over 2200 majority black homicides alone in 1990 New York City. Roughly the equivalent of the population
of a small town in South Carolina.

Black folks who had survived Jim Crow, migrating from the Caribbean, were fed up with losing family members daily and ducking 9mm and Tec-9 gunfire whizzing by our windows.

The old man in New Jack City represented the "pushed to the edge" mentality many in the community had reached, making the Crime Bill an unfortunate, but desired evil at the time.

 

[TRY GOD]

Since the crime bill passed, murder rates dropped from the crack era peak.

only the early 2000s & post Katrina spike in murders in New Orleans bucked the trend

How does what you just posted correlate to the god damn crime bill?

 

[TRY GOD]

Anybody who lived that era remembers that we were in an unprecedented community crisis.

Over 2200 majority black homicides alone in 1990 New York City. Roughly the equivalent of the population
of a small town in South Carolina.

Black folks who had survived Jim Crow, migrating from the Caribbean, were fed up with losing family members daily and ducking 9mm and Tec-9 gunfire whizzing by our windows.

The old man in New Jack City represented the "pushed to the edge" mentality many in the community had reached, making the Crime Bill an unfortunate, but desired evil at the time.

Again black people wanted solutions, they didn't want the 94 crime bill. ASKING FOR SOLUTIONS DOESN'T MEAN THEY AGREE WITH THE CRIME BILL.

• Black people wanted rehabilitation, and policing of drug dealers; the crime bill provided government funded prisons and more police, and no rehabilitation
• Black leaders wanted jobs, rehab centers, and vocational training, which the CBC PROPOSED. They were DENIED.
• THE CBC TRIED TO STOP THE CRIME BILL FROM PASSING, BUT WERE RAILROADED DUE TO MORE DRACONIAN LAWS.

 

[ultraflexed]

I don’t want the hindsight opinion or viewpoint, plenty of people say they regret it now. I’m speaking strictly about 1994. How did the majority of African Americans view bill when it first passed?

Nobody liked that sh#t, especially the 3 strikes law

 

[ultraflexed]

Haven’t read the answers but the masses didn’t know. All we knew is we had the “first Black President” in office, Ol Massa Bill, and we were working making money!
.

No breh we knew, yes we liked bill, but nobody out west was calling him the first black president, that was just a play on a joke from bill getting busted getting head in the white house, nobody took that sh#t seriously.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Again black people wanted solutions, they didn't want the 94 crime bill. ASKING FOR SOLUTIONS DOESN'T MEAN THEY AGREE WITH THE CRIME BILL.

• Black people wanted rehabilitation, and policing of drug dealers; the crime bill provided government funded prisons and more police, and no rehabilitation
• Black leaders wanted jobs, rehab centers, and vocational training, which the CBC PROPOSED. They were DENIED.
• THE CBC TRIED TO STOP THE CRIME BILL FROM PASSING, BUT WERE RAILROADED DUE TO MORE DRACONIAN LAWS.

I won't talk about 1990s "black people" as a distant aggregate...I'll talk about my grandparents, parents and other family members who were desperately looking for a solution to the everyday bloodshed.

In fact, most folks were complaining that the police were not doing enough, were ignoring emergency calls ("911 Is a Joke"), and that nobody cared including politicians.

The only group that had respect at that time was the NOI because the Fruit Of Islam was willing to take on the violence.

Ralph McDaniels would play "Self-Destruction" multiple times on the same Video Music Box show. We wanted change.

 

[dj-method-x]

ALOT OF YOU STUPID fakkitS STILL WAS PISSING IN THE BED AND HAD shyt STAINS IN YOUR DRAWERS, WHAT THE fukk DO YALL KNOW ABOUT 1994? YALL ARE TOO STUPID TO SEARCH fukkING GOOGLE


@Piff Perkins @dj-method-x @Ghost Utmost @The_Sheff IM TIRED OF YOU UNEDUCATED RETARDED fakkitS TRYING TO USE BLACK PEOPLE AS A SCAPEGOAT. YOU fakkitS ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO USE GOOGLE.

nikka shut the fukk up that article disproves nothing that the people who were actually around are saying you ignorant biracial suburb geek. I was smoking black and milds, listening to Snoop, The Chonic and Bone Thugs and serving as a little lookout for my cousins who were selling crack and heroin by 94 came around. Had already buried a uncle and a cousin lost to the streets. My best friend had just lost his sister to gang violence. I remember the protests and the people, pastors, community leaders and all of that begging for a bigger police presence.

Yeah we hated Bill Clinton so much that after this crime bill we overwhelmingly supported his reelection, deemed him the first “black” president and almost got his Vice President elected president after him and initially supported his wife over a black man in 2008 before Barack gained momentum. Hindsight is 20/20 but don’t tell nikkas to google some cac article for answers for a era they lived through and saw first hand in their own hoods.

 

[get these nets]

How does what you just posted correlate to the god damn crime bill?

If you would think rationally, you'd see that the decline in murders via the "murder capital of the year" started around the time the bill was passed.

Overall drop in murder rate seems to have started roughly in 1994 also.

We can discuss the topic like adults, or you can continue to rant.

 

[TRY GOD]

I won't talk about 1990s "black people" as a distant aggregate...I'll talk about my grandparents, parents and other family members who were desperately looking for a solution to the everyday bloodshed.

In fact, most folks were complaining that the police were not doing enough, were ignoring emergency calls ("911 Is a Joke"), and that nobody cared including politicians.

The only group that had respect at that time was the NOI because the Fruit Of Islam was willing to take on the violence.

Ralph McDaniels would play "Self-Destruction" multiple times on the same Video Music Box show. We wanted change.

We know black people wanted resolve. BUT DISCUSSING WHAT THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT(How was the 94 Crime Bill viewed by black Americans during that time period), Black people didn't want that.