How was the 94 Crime Bill viewed by black Americans during that time period

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ALOT OF YOU STUPID fakkitS STILL WAS PISSING IN THE BED AND HAD shyt STAINS IN YOUR DRAWERS, WHAT THE fukk DO YALL KNOW ABOUT 1994? YALL ARE TOO STUPID TO SEARCH fukkING GOOGLE


@Piff Perkins @dj-method-x @Ghost Utmost @The_Sheff IM TIRED OF YOU UNEDUCATED RETARDED fakkitS TRYING TO USE BLACK PEOPLE AS A SCAPEGOAT. YOU fakkit ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO USE GOOGLE.

I speak on what I saw and was hearing on the ground with my own eyes and ears not what the NAACP was saying at any given point in time. If the OP wanted the answer you posted he could have Google it himself.

Next time try getting your point across without childish insults.
 

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@Killmonger you aint slick you stupid little fakkit, We see through your bullshyt. Why would ask nikkas that were not adults about the crime bill? All they would have IS HINDSIGHT you retard
 
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@Killmonger you aint slick you stupid little fakkit, We see through your bullshyt. Why would ask nikkas that were not adults about the crime bill? All they would have IS HINDSIGHT you retard

A lot of people on here are old enough to remember and people in this thread have already given great answers.

You shouldn’t be that mad this early in the morning. You’re the only one in here angry.
 

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A lot of people on here are old enough to remember and people in this thread have already given great answers.

You shouldn’t be that mad this early in the morning. You’re the only one in here angry.
Nobody in this thread gave a great answer, you can't ask people who where KIDS about fukking policy issues of that time. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SEARCH GOOGLE.

Your stupid topics are disingenuous, you are trying to make the crime bill not a big deal. Stick to making gossip threads like a fakkit
 
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Nobody in this thread gave a great answer, you can't ask people who where KIDS about fukking policy issues of that time. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SEARCH GOOGLE.

Your stupid topics are disingenuous, you are trying to make the crime bill not a big deal. Stick to making gossip threads like a fakkit


Damn my nikka you really are mad :mjlol:





Can you go be mad in another thread please :francis:
 

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Hindsight is 20/20. Looking back as an adult, It appears there was an over correction of the problem. I never agreed with 3 strikes and didn’t learn about the crack/cocaine sentencing disparities until I was in my late teens. So in that context, we were wrong because there wasn’t equal application of the law across racial and social boundaries. But truthfully, crime appeared to be all around. My high school really was like the movie “lean on me”. No exaggeration. I had hommies that used to sell dope to the security guards at our school. Lunch time was an open drug market, with adult dope fiends lingering across the street. Easy money. So many fell victim to the game.
 

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Did Blacks Really Endorse the 1994 Crime Bill?


By Elizabeth Hinton, Julilly Kohler-Hausmann and Vesla M. Weaver

  • April 13, 2016
CreditMatthew Hollister
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AS political candidates and pundits grapple with the legacy of the 1994 crime bill and the era of mass incarceration that has seen millions of African-Americans locked in the nation’s prisons, one defense keeps popping up: that black citizens asked for it.

When confronted about her husband’s pivotal support for the bill, Hillary Clinton argued, even as she admitted the legislation’s shortcomings, that the bill was a response to “great demand, not just from America writ large, but from the black community, to get tougher on crime.”

Yet the historical record reveals a different story. Instead of being the unintended consequence of the democratic process at work, punitive crime policy is a result of a process of selectively hearing black voices on the question of crime.

There’s no question that by the early 1990s, blacks wanted an immediate response to the crime, violence and drug markets in their communities. But even at the time, many were asking for something different from the crime bill. Calls for tough sentencing and police protection were paired with calls for full employment, quality education and drug treatment, and criticism of police brutality.

the same social investmentthat reformers used to manage crime in white immigrant communities. But while whites received rehabilitation and welfare programs, black citizens found themselves overpunished and underprotected.

During the 1960s, blacks argued for full socioeconomic inclusion and an end to discriminatory policing, which they argued was a root cause of that decade’s urban unrest. Instead, they got militarized police forces and riot tanks in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968.

In the ashes of the war on poverty, the trend accelerated. The penal system ballooned, while social supports directed toward the poorest and most vulnerable declined precipitously. Black leaders argued for full employment in the press and on the floor of Congress, urged vetoes of draconian legislation and drafted their own bills to support community-led anti-crime programs — and all to little avail.

Flash forward to the Clinton era. As soon as Chuck Schumer, Joseph R. Biden Jr. and others introduced their bipartisan crime bill in September of 1993, groups representing black communities pushed back. The N.A.A.C.P. called it a “crime against the American people.

While supporting the idea of addressing crime, members of the Congressional Black Caucus criticized the bill itself and introduced an alternative bill that included investments in prevention and alternatives to incarceration, devoted $2 billion more to drug treatment and $3 billion more to early intervention programs. The caucus also put forward the Racial Justice Act, which would have made it possible to use statistical evidence of racial bias to challenge death sentences.

Given the history of selective hearing, what followed was no surprise. Black support for anti-crime legislation was highlighted, while black criticism of the specific legislation was tuned out. The caucus threatened to stall the bill, but lawmakers scrapped the Racial Justice Act when Republicans promised to filibuster any legislation that adopted its measures.

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In final negotiations, Democratic leadership yielded to Republicans demanding that prevention (or “welfare for criminals” as one called it) be sliced in exchange for their votes. Senator Robert Dole insisted that the focus be “on cutting pork, not on cutting prisons or police.” The compromise eliminated $2.5 billion in social spending and only $800 million in prison expenditures.

This presented black lawmakers with a dilemma: Defeating the bill might pave the way for something even more draconian down the line, and lose critical prevention funding still in the bill. Ultimately, 26 of the 38 voting members supported the legislation. But those who broke ranks did so loudly: As Representative Robert C. Scott of Virginia explained, “You wouldn’t ask an opponent of abortion to look at a bill with the greatest expansion of abortion in the history of the United States, and argue that he ought to vote for it because it’s got some highway funding in it.”

Mr. Scott had it right: The bill allocated federal funds for up to 75 percent of the cost of new prisons, defined 60 new capital offenses, constricted inmates’ access to higher education and introduced 100,000 more police officers. Less than a quarter of the funding went to prevention programs. Over two decades later, this legislation continues to shape the lives of millions of African-Americans, overwhelmingly for the worse. This legislation further entrenched the idea that vulnerable urban communities are best managed through harsh punishment and heightened surveillance.

Making our neighborhoods places of mobility and fortune, not disinvestment and confinement, means that the voices of the people most affected must be heard and heeded. As we debate how to switch course, our popular understanding of the rise of “get tough” laws should not layer selective memory atop selective hearing of the past by justifying black incarceration with trite references to black voices.
Opinion | Did Blacks Really Endorse the 1994 Crime Bill?
@Piff Perkins @dj-method-x There goes what the Black leaders of the time were actually trying to do, so stop blaming "black leaders."

@dj-method-x you love to talk about what politicians can't do, and how they have to compromise. Now you trying to equate blame on black leaders when the crime bill isn't what they wanted?
 

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Hindsight is 20/20. Looking back as an adult, It appears there was an over correction of the problem.
WHAT THE fukk IS AN OVER CORRECTION?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A fukkING OVER CORRECTION YOU RETARD.

IT IS EITHER CORRECT, OR IT ISN'T CORRECT.

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I got a called a c00n and Democrat shill apologist for saying that in context of the time, the crime bill was seen as a logical reaction to crime :troll:


And I really asked myself "am I out of touch with crime in relation the black community :jbhmm:?"

Full disclosure I didnt grow up in cities with black folks (pops.was army) so crime in my opinion was always inexcusable. I felt if nikkas did that shyt, that was on them. :ufdup:

As i got older and wiser and realized the real effects of white supremacy, I changed my position.

With that said, tough on crime is often rooted in predatory policing and bullshyt policies.

However I also refuse to let murder6and overall scumbags off the hook because white supremacy. People at the end of the day have agency and should be held accountable
 

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WHAT THE fukk IS AN OVER CORRECTION?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A fukkING OVER CORRECTION YOU RETARD.

IT IS EITHER CORRECT, OR IT ISN'T CORRECT.

GTFOH
You don’t know me, don’t call me retarded. Either we discuss it, our I block your dumb ass. I believe crime needed to be curtailed. I was a pre-teen/teen. It was adults responsibility to protect me during that time. If they thought the crime bill did that, I can’t fault them entirely. However, I don’t think people needed to be locked up for life for drug offenses or three strikes. Hope that helps you understand my point crack baby
 

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You don’t know me, don’t call me retarded. Either we discuss it, our I block your dumb ass. I believe crime needed to be curtailed. I was a pre-teen/teen. It was adults responsibility to protect me during that time. If they thought the crime bill did that, I can’t fault them entirely. However, I don’t think people needed to be locked up for life for drug offenses or three strikes. Hope that helps you understand my point crack baby
YOU MUST BE A RETARD, cause I just posted that THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE CRIME BILL, THEY VOTED SO IT WOULDN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN IT ALREADY WAS.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVER CORRECTION. Something is either correct or incorrect. The 94 crime bill was correct: it fulfilled its intended purpose of making federally funded prisons and locking nikkas up.
 

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I'm too young to remember specifics about bills. But i do know black folks seemed to love Bill Clinton back then. everybody was calling him the "first black" president after he came out playing the saxophone and shyt on Arsenio Hall's show. :mjlol:
This was really sad. It show's a people who were starving for "someone on the team" and Bill taking advantage of the situation.
 

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YOU MUST BE A RETARD, cause I just posted that THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE CRIME BILL, THEY VOTED SO IT WOULDN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN IT ALREADY WAS.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVER CORRECTION. Something is either correct or incorrect. The 94 crime bill was correct: it fulfilled its intended purpose of making federally funded prisons and locking nikkas up.
A law can be correct in concept, but bad in application. That is what I mean. Black people wanted crime to go down and criminals locked up. However, we were naive in believing we wouldn’t be targeted during the application process. I’ve had cops plant crack on me at two separate times....both when I was in high school. That is when I realized something wasn’t right. Your post at #38 sounds like older black lawmakers juelzing their decision in the 90’s. I don’t remember a lot of black opposition to the law at the time. Was there opposition to the law, I’m sure there was, but it wasn’t the majority. In inner city Cincinnati, no black people in positions of power were speaking against the law
 
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