filial_piety
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How was the 94 Crime Bill viewed by black Americans during that time period
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filial_piety
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Funny enough, I remember in 1993, my parents had a talk with me too. I remember my mother telling me "you're at that age now where you're a target now...other kids will want to kill you over nothing." ANd she wasn't referring to the police...she was talking about other black kids. That was the reality at the time.
Now there are some unfortunate things that came out of that bill that we now know of (ie police "quotas" and sentencing disparities), but the reasons to get something done at the time were legit.
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You really are illiterate, THAT SAME ARTICLE YOU POSTED SAYS THE EXACT THING AS MY ARTICLE: They were against the bill but went along with it anyway because they had to. You was saying they were all for the crime bill with no objections. Like my article, your article states they wanted a solution, not the crime bill, but they had to go along witg the establishment. THEY WERE DESPERATE FOR A SOLUTION... LIKE I SAID. YOU ARE PROVING MY POINT YOU RETARD.That article that you keep posting is an one opinion piece. You can find several articles contradicting that, that people use TO THIS DAY to criticize the CBC.
Analysis: Black Leaders Supported Clinton's Crime Bill
Analysis: Black Leaders Supported Clinton's Crime Bill
April 8, 2016, 11:33 AM EDT
By Yolanda Young
The resentment that black social justice activists have been feeling towards Bill and Hillary Clinton's 1994 crime bill reached its apex at a Philadelphia campaign rally Thursday in which Bill Clinton was heckled and faced down signs like "CLINTON Crime Bill Destroyed Our Communities."
In February, Michelle Alexander, law professor and author of “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness” penned an essay titled, "Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve the Black vote."
The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 contained an expansion of the federal death penalty to include drug offenses, the "Three Strikes, You're Out" rule, and billions in funding for police, prisons, and states that made it harder for people to get parole (though Mr. Clinton neglected to mention this when he mentioned that most prisoners are incarcerated by the state).
But if Bill and Hillary Clinton were the pot, black politicians, activists, and pastors were the kettle. Their support of punitive measures actually paved the way for Clinton. It began with the man Ebony Magazine called the "front-line general in the war on drugs."
President Reagan hands his wife, First Lady Nancy Reagan, the pen he used to sign a $1.7 billion anti-drug bill at the White House. Looking on from the far left is Representative Charles B. Rangel.Vince Mannino / Bettmann via CORBIS
On tapes secretly recorded by former president Richard Nixon, Congressman Charles Rangel can be heard in closed door meetings urging Nixon to be more aggressive on the "War on Drugs."
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“Public enemy number one in the United States is drug abuse. In order to fight and defeat this enemy, it is necessary to wage a new, all-out offensive,” the Harlem Democrat can be heard saying in words that Nixon would later mimic.
Rangel opposed drug legalization and embraced police militarization. He stood proudly by Nancy as President Ronald Reagan signed another drug-war law
Curiously, Rangel was among the 11 Congressional Black Caucus members who voted against Clinton's Crime Bill, which did not lack of black support. In addition to the dozens of pastors who signed a letter in support of the bill, it also had the support of black mayors. Kurt Schmoke, the first elected black mayor of Baltimore, was a vigorous supporter.
Even then U.S. Representative Kweisi Mfume, then chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) who understood the bill was a means to “find better ways to incarcerate people” eventually buckled, not only supporting the bill, but was ultimately responsible for its passage by rallying a majority of CBC members to vote for it after the bill was nearly derailed on a procedural issue.
Baltimore's Mayor Kurt Schmoke (C) testifying in front of the House Select Committee on Narcotics Abuse & Control regarding the legalization of drugs.Terry Ashe / The LIFE Images Collection/Getty
The Clintons quite likely were motivated by political expediency -- appealing to white voters with "tough on crime" measures; however it is clear black leaders were simply desperate to rid communities of the gang violence terrorizing their communities. The crime wave was real with rapes, assaults, and murders at never before seen levels, especially in inner-cities.
They didn't have the benefit of knowing what we do now: that the death penalty would be disproportionately administered to black defendants; that many imprisoned didn't pose a serious threat; that many of the "criminals" had actually been victims of childhood lead poisoning which studies show link to "impulsivity, behavioral problems, hyperactivity, and impaired cognition, all of which are associated with crime."
dj-method-x
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Breh you had Harlem congressmen meeting with NIXON calling for police militarization. You had the first black mayor vigorously supporting the bill. Going along with it and actively RALLYING people to whip support are two totally different things. Nobody put a gun to these black leaders head and made them do these things. You’re a young biracial suburban idiot with no frame of reference to the times or communities you are speaking on. Shut the fukk up with your loud and wrong ass and let people answer the question who were actually there and remember what was going on instead of cherry picking articles your outside looking in ass had to google.
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YOU IDIOT, THAT HARLEM CONGRESSMAN VOTED AGAINST THE CRIME BILL, ITS QUOTED IN THE SAME ARTICLE YOU POSTED! Im shytting on you using your own post and you can't even back it up, you are deflecting!
YOU ARE VERY BAD AT THIS
dj-method-x
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Idiot, my point is that the tough on crime stance is evidenced as starting BEFORE the crime bill. Yes, some black politicians voted against it, but the overwhelmingly majority of the CBC, the first black mayor, pastors, and the people were for adopting a tough on crime stance at the time and this crime bill was not looked at as it is today because we did not know what we know today. Immediately after this bill Bill Clinton was re-elected in a landslide and overwhelmingly had black support which further proves my point. Go sit down some where. You don’t know anything about what you’re talking about .
You are embarrassing yourself. Sit this one tough guy.
You tried to make a point about my article, then you posted an article echoing the same points as the one I had previously posted.
You realised you fukked up about charley Rangle, and you tried to cover it up by deflecting away from is vote AGAINST the crime bill.
You can only point to a few black leaders who have no vote on the crime bill that were in support, mean while I have provided proof that the CBC tried to do something but ultimately had to succumb to the establishment. You tried to make it seem that the CBC had no pushback.
You are the dumbest fukking shill on this forum
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
There were definitely people that liked the 3 strike rule and I remember overhearing old heads talk about it at the barbershop and church. I don't think they had the foresight to see that it would also apply to non violent offenders
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if you cant tell me why I am embarrassing myself, then just shut the fukk up, and go make more anti-black american podcast.
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
It's obvious that you weren't there so why even speak on it? No one is impressed with your cherry picked articles that agree with your narrative.
What the fukk are you talking about? This thread is nothing but an echo chamber of nikkas saying the same thing, all of which has nothing to do WITH THE CRIME BILL; and only 3 of these nikkas so far, was there.
YOU fakkitS ARE STUPID, IM THE ONLY ONE WHO BROUGHT FACTS ABOUT THE CRIME BILL AND BLACK LEADERSHIP, AND YALL ARE TALKING ABOUT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE FROM HEARSAY.
Miss me with your disinformation.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Most had no idea what was going on.
I was only 14 though
No breh we knew, yes we liked bill, but nobody out west was calling him the first black president, that was just a play on a joke from bill getting busted getting head in the white house, nobody took that sh#t seriously.
The hell nikkas didn’t. nikkas worshipped him then and now.
