How was the 94 Crime Bill viewed by black Americans during that time period

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to be honest i was more tormented by the 1996 TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT signed by BILL CLINTON

Because at the time i was working as an intern in radio for a black owned AM radio station in the south during the summers

and it changed EVERYTHING LITERALY OVER NIGHT... :snoop:

corporations like Clear Channel came in and bought up everything especially indys like the one i worked for

and before you know it the landscape of black music changed forever....especially with independent local acts

its like you couldn't get on the radio at all if you didn't have a major distributor ....nobody was taking changes with breaking records by new acts

like Mr. Magic of WBLS and Greg Mack of KDAY were doing

it became super corporate and basically gentrified urban music and the community as well...

we use to have Farrakhan speeches broadcasted on the air late at night.......there was black talk shows all over the urban dial at the time..

all that died ...thanks to the so called first black president "bill clinton" :mjsad:
You are literally the Forrest Gump of The Coli.







From what I remember alot of black people were in favor of it, not realizing the long term implications.
 

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Crime spiked when the crack era began........violent crime and murder rates probably peaked when the bill was passed. I ask this question whenever the topic comes up. Outside of innocent people getting railroaded on fake charges, what problem do people have with tough on crime measures? Streets were killing fields at one point in different cities across the country. Was the govt. just supposed to allow the violence to continue?

You have to ask yourself, who is responsible for the crack era that causes all the crime and violence that open the door for the bill to pass. Them devils knew what they were doing because none of that shyt just happened by chance.
 

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I was around 14-15 at the time. It seemed someone was dying at my jr/high school every month or so. I remember losing 10 of my friends between my junior and senior year of high school, and I was relatively square. Older black people definately wanted more law enforcement. First time I saw crack I was in the 5th grade. I remember my father trying to have the drug talk with me when I was 13-14. Broke his heart when I told him he was late as hell. When I graduated from college and moved to DC, I had a lot of corporate white friends that sniffed coke. I didn’t have a problem with them but I would always say, if you truly knew crack heads back in the 90’s ain’t no way you was intentionally doing hard drugs unless you strait gave up on life.
 
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Haven’t read the answers but the masses didn’t know. All we knew is we had the “first Black President” in office, Ol Massa Bill, and we were working making money!

Not only were nikkas getting locked up by the city block, but the Clinton administration oversaw the orchestration and implementation of the planned genocide in Rwanda. Then the man put his saxophone down, told Monica to get up and move around, and then lied to Black people all over the world and told us they didn’t know what was happening in Rwanda while all those people were being killed.

And we believed him. Then we got down on our knees, and have been here ever since.
 

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In the hood we were more focused on that "K" on the Snapple bottles being a sign that Snapple was made by the KKK when in reality it meant "Kosher." The muslims also said Snapple had pig sperm in it.

And Tropical Fantasies were placed in the hood to lower the sperm count of Black males...Operation failed on that one.


One thing I do remember about NYC was that the word around town was that Guilliani didnt give a fukk about Black people. The first person to tell me that was a Black ale mcop. The second person I heard say it was my dad. So that was pretty much a signal that Blacks in NYC were about to feel the brunt of that rumor. There was a public outcry from Blacks against Guilliani for his "by the numbers" tactic on "reducing crime" that was forgotten because of Sept 11th. A lot of NYC rappers were very anti -Guilliani and this was due to the word of mouth on how Guilliani was handling crime by the numbers...after the situation with Patrick Dorismond, Guilliani was looked at as an enemy of Black people. Yet till this day Guillianis' reputation is attributed to "reducing crime" in NYC and all those Pre Sept 11th outcrys from Black New Yorkers fell to the waste side.
 
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But this idea that it was some plan concocted by evil white people and hurled on top of helpless black people is laughable.
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Didn't really mean shyt

Me personally, I knew how to not sell crack and not shoot at people.

I knew how to get the fukc off the strip once things got crazy. I literally left my hometown for less dramatic pastures.

The dudes that got caught up in it: they didn't give a fukc about it either. These niqqa's minds weren't seemingly focused on personal safety on a day to day basis. Niqqas was ready to die for real so they weren't that phased about anything to do with the law

Someone I love dearly got a long mandatory sentence. Before that, his rap sheet was like a booklet. Had already done a short bid. They told him what would happen if they caught him again. And he was back on the block day one. Didn't slow down one bit.

All I can say about that is: that shyt was more than avoidable. He went out of his way to go TOWARD a long bid.

I haven't really brought age up but I bet these people so offended about what Hil did in the 90s is prolly 21 years old NOW. You done read about it or heard some YouTube idiot's opinion on it and you're projecting the universal butt hurt of this era onto past events.

So that's it. I'd say it was unfair and short sighted and all the criticisms, but we want so bad to be "treated fairly" that we forget that we have been conquered and abducted to the other side of the globe by bloodthirsty pirates. They're pretty mean.

So they not gonna change and they are not gonna give out any more freedom than they have already given

Next step is to stand up and claim our piece of the map. Power cannot be given, only taken. All that.

So focus on getting smarter and stronger. Avoid the police. Not only might they arrest you, they might just blast you on the spot
 

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It was celebrated as a necessary tool to combat rampant crime by black folks country wide. It's why when young people now try to use that bill against the Clinton's I know they didn't do their research. That bill was something our people pleaded for and celebrated once it was passed.

Another brother has it right, that telecommunications bill was the one that was some bullshyt. Totally destroyed the music and urban talk radio scene.
 

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Those white supremacist crackers posing as friends to the black community completed eradicated & decimated the black family structure or what remnants & vestiges was left over after the "Crack era" this is a classic case of the Hegelian Dialectic they gave us a problem , we reacted, & they gave us a preplanned solution with the "Crime Bill" written by none other than Joe Biden himself. Black people should be side eyeing Obama for making him Vice president & appointing Hillary as Secretary of state after the havoc they wreaked on the black community here & abroad in Africa & Caribbean.


@Get These Nets You are right too as well tho, even though this bill was constructed with the intentions to further destroy our communities by these devil's, it was necessary because of the rampant violence every major black city was experiencing at the time, dozens of abandoned houses turned into drug dens becoming red zones for patrolling cops which lead to our young boys being sexually assaulted & dehumanized, the elderly men & women of our communities being struck by bullets ricocheting over drug disputes or either targeted by crack heads looking for a purse to snatch for their next hit, our children becoming lookout & drug mules, our little girls becoming prostitutes & being sexually assaulted by these same emboldened crack heads



This isn't an easy topic to discuss & I just wanna say BLACK PEOPLE I love US, we been through so much & we still here
 

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part of my problem now with the discussion about the crime bill is that there were a lot of criminals and people did not want crime.

If we focus on the fact a lot of black people got caught up, I want people to assess how they would have handled the crime problem 25 years ago.

And it WAS a problem. Theres no discussion about how bad it was.

You've never seen things that bad in most of your lifetimes.
 

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It was celebrated as a necessary tool to combat rampant crime by black folks country wide. It's why when young people now try to use that bill against the Clinton's I know they didn't do their research. That bill was something our people pleaded for and celebrated once it was passed.

Another brother has it right, that telecommunications bill was the one that was some bullshyt. Totally destroyed the music and urban talk radio scene.
It wasn't just black people, my dude.
 

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THIS IS HOW I KNOW YOU IDIOTS ARE UNEDUCATED RETARDS. YALL ARE OFFERING ANECDOTAL ACCOUNTS, MOST LIKELY FROM CRACKERS( @Piff Perkins ), INSTEAD OF DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH ON GOOGLE

Crime and Community" (May, 1994), the first installment of a two-part article byAtlantic contributing editor Wendy Kaminer, assessed the effectiveness of the 1994 Omnibus Crime Bill by looking at developments in community policing, the federalization of crime, and the future of gun control. Kaminer's findings were not heartening. "Federal Offense" (June, 1994), the second installment, considered the push for more prisons and more mandatory sentencing -- proposals that, she argued, are driven by political ideology rather than by evidence that they actually have much impact on crime.

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to be honest i was more tormented by the 1996 TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT signed by BILL CLINTON

Because at the time i was working as an intern in radio for a black owned AM radio station in the south during the summers

and it changed EVERYTHING LITERALY OVER NIGHT... :snoop:

corporations like Clear Channel came in and bought up everything especially indys like the one i worked for

and before you know it the landscape of black music changed forever....especially with independent local acts

its like you couldn't get on the radio at all if you didn't have a major distributor ....nobody was taking changes with breaking records by new acts

like Mr. Magic of WBLS and Greg Mack of KDAY were doing

it became super corporate and basically gentrified urban music and the community as well...

we use to have Farrakhan speeches broadcasted on the air late at night.......there was black talk shows all over the urban dial at the time..

all that died ...thanks to the so called first black president "bill clinton" :mjsad:
The Effects of Media Consolidation on Urban Radio | Future of Music Coalition
https://hiphopandpolitics.com/2018/...ions-act-of-96-stifle-diversity-in-rap-music/
Black media groups confront the FCC on the 'demise of black radio' - theGrio
 

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ALOT OF YOU STUPID fakkitS STILL WAS PISSING IN THE BED AND HAD shyt STAINS IN YOUR DRAWERS, WHAT THE fukk DO YALL KNOW ABOUT 1994? YALL ARE TOO STUPID TO SEARCH fukkING GOOGLE


Did Blacks Really Endorse the 1994 Crime Bill?


By Elizabeth Hinton, Julilly Kohler-Hausmann and Vesla M. Weaver

  • April 13, 2016
CreditMatthew Hollister
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AS political candidates and pundits grapple with the legacy of the 1994 crime bill and the era of mass incarceration that has seen millions of African-Americans locked in the nation’s prisons, one defense keeps popping up: that black citizens asked for it.

When confronted about her husband’s pivotal support for the bill, Hillary Clinton argued, even as she admitted the legislation’s shortcomings, that the bill was a response to “great demand, not just from America writ large, but from the black community, to get tougher on crime.”

Yet the historical record reveals a different story. Instead of being the unintended consequence of the democratic process at work, punitive crime policy is a result of a process of selectively hearing black voices on the question of crime.

There’s no question that by the early 1990s, blacks wanted an immediate response to the crime, violence and drug markets in their communities. But even at the time, many were asking for something different from the crime bill. Calls for tough sentencing and police protection were paired with calls for full employment, quality education and drug treatment, and criticism of police brutality.

the same social investmentthat reformers used to manage crime in white immigrant communities. But while whites received rehabilitation and welfare programs, black citizens found themselves overpunished and underprotected.

During the 1960s, blacks argued for full socioeconomic inclusion and an end to discriminatory policing, which they argued was a root cause of that decade’s urban unrest. Instead, they got militarized police forces and riot tanks in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968.

In the ashes of the war on poverty, the trend accelerated. The penal system ballooned, while social supports directed toward the poorest and most vulnerable declined precipitously. Black leaders argued for full employment in the press and on the floor of Congress, urged vetoes of draconian legislation and drafted their own bills to support community-led anti-crime programs — and all to little avail.

Flash forward to the Clinton era. As soon as Chuck Schumer, Joseph R. Biden Jr. and others introduced their bipartisan crime bill in September of 1993, groups representing black communities pushed back. The N.A.A.C.P. called it a “crime against the American people.

While supporting the idea of addressing crime, members of the Congressional Black Caucus criticized the bill itself and introduced an alternative bill that included investments in prevention and alternatives to incarceration, devoted $2 billion more to drug treatment and $3 billion more to early intervention programs. The caucus also put forward the Racial Justice Act, which would have made it possible to use statistical evidence of racial bias to challenge death sentences.

Given the history of selective hearing, what followed was no surprise. Black support for anti-crime legislation was highlighted, while black criticism of the specific legislation was tuned out. The caucus threatened to stall the bill, but lawmakers scrapped the Racial Justice Act when Republicans promised to filibuster any legislation that adopted its measures.

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In final negotiations, Democratic leadership yielded to Republicans demanding that prevention (or “welfare for criminals” as one called it) be sliced in exchange for their votes. Senator Robert Dole insisted that the focus be “on cutting pork, not on cutting prisons or police.” The compromise eliminated $2.5 billion in social spending and only $800 million in prison expenditures.

This presented black lawmakers with a dilemma: Defeating the bill might pave the way for something even more draconian down the line, and lose critical prevention funding still in the bill. Ultimately, 26 of the 38 voting members supported the legislation. But those who broke ranks did so loudly: As Representative Robert C. Scott of Virginia explained, “You wouldn’t ask an opponent of abortion to look at a bill with the greatest expansion of abortion in the history of the United States, and argue that he ought to vote for it because it’s got some highway funding in it.”

Mr. Scott had it right: The bill allocated federal funds for up to 75 percent of the cost of new prisons, defined 60 new capital offenses, constricted inmates’ access to higher education and introduced 100,000 more police officers. Less than a quarter of the funding went to prevention programs. Over two decades later, this legislation continues to shape the lives of millions of African-Americans, overwhelmingly for the worse. This legislation further entrenched the idea that vulnerable urban communities are best managed through harsh punishment and heightened surveillance.

Making our neighborhoods places of mobility and fortune, not disinvestment and confinement, means that the voices of the people most affected must be heard and heeded. As we debate how to switch course, our popular understanding of the rise of “get tough” laws should not layer selective memory atop selective hearing of the past by justifying black incarceration with trite references to black voices.
Opinion | Did Blacks Really Endorse the 1994 Crime Bill?
@Piff Perkins @dj-method-x @Ghost Utmost @The_Sheff IM TIRED OF YOU UNEDUCATED RETARDED fakkitS TRYING TO USE BLACK PEOPLE AS A SCAPEGOAT. YOU fakkitS ARE NOT EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO USE GOOGLE.
 
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