How to buy cars (new and used)

[2Quik4UHoes]

So wat u think about auctions?

 

[shopthatwrecks]

So wat u think about auctions?

u can come up on some nice shyt..u get wha u paid for..sometime it aint runnin some time..its perfect..

alot of the cars i get majority come from has been athletes.ernest givens...steve francis, cuttino mobley etc...u can tell who they were kus the custom shyt still in it..i have lucked up on them cats alot....

n u can get ol drug dealer cars..

i have gotten 2000 n up lacs(devilles to escalades ) crown vics...benzes..that was in katrina..for like 2000 bucks plus the lil fees which aint shyt..

take em to the shop..gut em..redo everything with my ese potna..n put em at local lots ...make a lil change on the side..

u can hit a nice lil lick too..the feds..local cops etc..miss alot of evidence..ese cat i do it with..done came up on work n cash 3000 he spend..he make it all back..from the shyt he find in the cars the law miss..


the city lots u pay more than u do at the small towns ...kuz alot of the major car lots are at em...

u can come up big time in the smaller towns...kuz the sheriffs be rydin in luxury if nobody shows up..get cars for a buck n shyt...kuz they work with each other...


that deville i posted came from a lot...wasnt nuthin wrong with it...at the time..then slowly but showly problems..fixed it up... only brought it out 4 car shows n hangin out...

 

[itsyoung!!]

you bring up a good point ill address later when buying used cars, ill tell you how to get the most value for your trade in , itll be the easiest part to write up actually

 

[itsyoung!!]

So wat u think about auctions?

depends on the auction, them lil auctions you see on tv... you might be able to find good shyt there, keep in mind people do this as a profession they get paid to buy cars so they gonna know whats worth buying and whats not

theirs auctions every day in vegas/riverside and some other places, honestly even for big lots thats where we used to buy majority of used cars from.

You go to a big ass honda/toyota/mercedez, and see 50 used cars, believe maybe 10-20 of those max are actual trade ins, the others are from auctions themselves.

Theres kelly blue book, and theres the black book.. black book shows the true value of cars even auction prices. Only sales managers get to see it though, gotta have a log in and everything for that shyt

 

[shopthatwrecks]

depends on the auction, them lil auctions you see on tv... you might be able to find good shyt there, keep in mind people do this as a profession they get paid to buy cars so they gonna know whats worth buying and whats not

theirs auctions every day in vegas/riverside and some other places, honestly even for big lots thats where we used to buy majority of used cars from.

You go to a big ass honda/toyota/mercedez, and see 50 used cars, believe maybe 10-20 of those max are actual trade ins, the others are from auctions themselves.

Theres kelly blue book, and theres the black book.. black book shows the true value of cars even auction prices. Only sales managers get to see it though, gotta have a log in and everything for that shyt

i know down here the trap towns( small hick towns alot of drug dealers get caught up at)...

they dont care really about the kelly or the black book..they make their side money off the auctions...they try n get rid of alot of shyt dependin on the town every 2 weeks or the 1st n end of the month...

racist as vidor is...i done bought like 10 cars out of there...from 300-3000 bucks...only time they discriminate is durin nightfall...lol

 

[itsyoung!!]

gonna add the buying used cars part later tonight

 

[Mensch Fontana]

well done sir

 

[Ashyneezz]

Im actually trying to buy a car through the auctions now.


coparts.com

 

[SumBlackguyz]

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

gonna add the buying used cars part later tonight

Still waiting

 

[young3000]

Bought my car brand new back in May, I was at the dealership from 11am til 9pm. They was trying to play me but I was playing them at the same time. Actually walked out 3 times and they came running out to my jeep begging me to come back in. Tried low balling me on my trade in and tried to play me about my credit score.

Manager kept asking what I gotta do to put you in this car...I gave him a long list of demands and when they were met, we made a deal.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Still waiting

Just moved today, been busy sorry, will write it up sometime soon I aint forget about it

 

[Heafcliffe]

Why listen to me? I worked at one of the biggest honda dealerships in the entire bay area. We had 25 sales people, commission was broke into 3 tiers. Top tier(top 8 sales people), mid tier(middle 8 sales people) and bottom tier(the remaining 8-10 sales people, it was like a rotating door in the car business, new people every month and people gone every month). Pretty much every month I was top tier, except the few months I just jacked off chewing sun flower seeds and making runs to the liquor store


I went from regular sales person, to internet department (the people who call you daily and email you every few weeks with promotions, which is done through an automatic system we just have to hit push) and then finally closer (the people you see in the office, who come out and finish the negotiation with you). You only become closer once you show you can 1. sell a decent amount of cars and 2. hold your nuts while negotiating and get as much possible profit out of the customer possible.

Things you need to know; each dealership is not connected to each other. Honda of El Cerrito(richmond) is not the same as Honda of Oakland. Matter of fact these 2 dealerships hate each other, and havnt traded cars with each other for years. Its the rap game, the dope game and the car game. When one of the higher up managers leave a dealership to another one its either all love, or all bad. Its not like other companies like a bank or verizon/att. Where you have corporate stores and resellers. Car business is ALL reselling. It might say Honda on the outside, but its really owned by Hendrick, or Penske or some local rich guy and they can give a fukk about the next honda dealership down the road.

Buying new is always better than buying used, if you have the credit for it. Less down payment required, better interest rate, better month terms, fresh warranties, just overall better. Buying used if you are like me and have fukked up credit ( ) and still need a good car. But it is possible to get a lower monthly payment (between term/lower interest rate) on a new car that costs more than a used car.. its chess not checkers, you gotta look at more than just the big ass numbers on the window. That $17,999 2010 charger might end up costing you more than that $21,000 2012 new charger..

How to buy new:

1. You might as well get a separate email account for this, because each dealership has an internet department, and they will spam the fukk out of you with promotions.

2. If you are looking for a specific car (lets say honda accord), go to each honda web site that you think is worth driving to (in the bay area, theres pretty much a honda dealership in every city regardless of how big or small the city is). So for instance if you live in the bay area, go to the fairfield, vallejo, el cerrito, oakland, berkeley honda website and do the "get online quote" or "talk to internet specialist" or "talk to sales person" from the website. When you do this, your information you enter will be sent to a internet sales manager and he will distribute it to one of the internet sales people.

3. Click on the car you are looking for or a similar one and do the "quote" from the website. The internet department is looking for the quantity sales, not so much the quality sales, they are to do a lot of sales rather than squeeze profit out every customer because the dealership not just the sales people also has a quota to hit. The dealership gets a "kick back" if they sell so many cars in a year. Example, honda will give 2% back for every new/certified like used car the dealership sells, if the dealership hits their quota from Honda. This is huge, 2% of $15,000-50,000 over 1,000-2,000 cars is a lot of money back.

4. The reason you emailed all those dealerships is because every month car companies do incentives. You see them on TV "$2,500 cash back" but what they dont say is they stack with other incentives. Also between dealer cash AND the incentives you will get a crazy deal. We was selling brand new $18,500 MSRP(sticker price) civics for $15,800 and 0.9% interest rate BUT most dealerships will hold back on the initial quote they email/call you with. Thats why you wanted to get a quote from all those dealerships, because lets say Honda Oakland says $16,200 but Honda El Cerrito says $15,800 but Oakland has the color you want and El Cerrito doesnt, you can email Oakland back saying El cerrito gave me a quote of $15,800 and you can bet Oakland going to match that. Dont say something stupid though and try and make up your own number "well Honda el Cerrito told me $15,000" dealerships know what promotions are out there, the sales person is either gonna do 3 things 1. "well that sounds like a great deal, I would say you should go do that(because he knows you are full of shyt) 2. laugh.."good luck with that!" or 3. depending how old school they are tell you go fukk yourself.

5. When you get a quote from a dealership, make sure to ask if that includes accessories. What most(not all) dealerships do is tell you an amazing price but what they dont mention is when you get to the dealership thinking you are just going to pick up the car for that, is that they added $800+ accessories to the car and how they are important they are to you and tell you how the deal cant be done without buying them (we sold 3m film for the doors "so it doesnt scratch another car if you hit it with your door", wheel locks (even for the hub caps on civics

) , "premium" wax for the car (water repellent really..) and nitro fill for the tires. If a dealership tells you the price is with accessories included and the other dealerships tell you its that price + accessories , email the other dealerships back with the other quote and if they cant match it, then you found your best deal..

6. ASK FOR A OUT THE DOOR PRICE. Also ask for them to break it down with how it equals that price. If they say $21,000 out the door, but the car quote is $15,800.. theres some funny shyt in there, so make sure they break it down for you.

7. When you find the dealership you want to get the car from, do the credit check over the internet from their website. Why? Because this is the last line of foul business from the dealership. Dealerships get paid on points from interest. If they tell you got approved for 3.9% you really got approved for 0.9%. Always subtract 2% from the interest they quote you if your credit is good (especially 700+). Not everyone can get 0.9% obviously, but if you approve for a new car, you can almost always subtract 2% from the interest rate and thats your real interest rate. "Well we got you approved for 8.9%" nah I think I heard 6.9% play boi belee dat

8. You owe NOTHING to these dealerships. DONT BE AFRAID TO WALK AWAY IF THEY ARENT GIVING YOU WHAT THEY QUOTED YOU OVER THE PHONE/EMAIL. They arent going to help pay YOUR bills. You get what YOU want and what YOU can afford. What one dealership wont do, another will...Do some research, some cars literally do not have much profit in them. Kelly Blue Book will tell you the invoice price of the cars, look at that as your measuring stick of negotiating. Just because it says $50,000 on the price tag doesnt mean theres $15,000 of negotiating room. People think the dealership is lying , but you cant come in buying a $17,000 brand new car thinking you can get it for $10,000 out the door

that means they would have to sell it to you for $7,500. Theres no $10,000 profit in a car, especially that price.


ill have to write how to buy used cars later, this shyt took me forever to write out

Good info, champ! Questions for ya.

Is a slightly modified car (i.e. aftermarket rims, spoiler, decent audio kit, etc.) worth considerably less than keeping the car stock?

Plus, are there certain mileage thresholds that automatically mean a decrease in the price of your trade-in?

Also, should you buy an Infiniti from a Mercedes-Benz dealership? I feel like you shouldn't because Infiniti wouldn't be their focus.

Lastly, when you are trading in, what are the first things the dealership looks at (i.e. A/C, console, etc.) to insure a feasible purchase?

Thanks in advance.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

real dope thread breh...the interest rate advice was top notch.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Good info, champ! Questions for ya.

Is a slightly modified car (i.e. aftermarket rims, spoiler, decent audio kit, etc.) worth considerably less than keeping the car stock?

Plus, are there certain mileage thresholds that automatically mean a decrease in the price of your trade-in?

Also, should you buy an Infiniti from a Mercedes-Benz dealership? I feel like you shouldn't because Infiniti wouldn't be their focus.

Lastly, when you are trading in, what are the first things the dealership looks at (i.e. A/C, console, etc.) to insure a feasible purchase?

Thanks in advance.

Is a slightly modified car (i.e. aftermarket rims, spoiler, decent audio kit, etc.) worth considerably less than keeping the car stock?

Depends on demograph.. I worked at Honda el cerrito which is between MacDonald Ave and Cutting Blvd in richmond, if a charger pulled up on 22's we would tell them its worth less, but we knew we could sell it for more

But usually they try to tell you its worth less, so its all on area and who you trading in to.. try and bring receipt papers and show them how much you paid for them and how long ago you got them to help.

Plus, are there certain mileage thresholds that automatically mean a decrease in the price of your trade-in?

Yeah but depends on car.. 80k on a civic 80k miles on an audi as far as trade in value goes.. Kelly Blue Book is gonna be your best answer for trade in value.

Also, should you buy an Infiniti from a Mercedes-Benz dealership? I feel like you shouldn't because Infiniti wouldn't be their focus.

Depends. All cars regardless of year/make/model go through a I believe 63 point test (its been awhile, so might be 68?) through our service shop to make sure its in sell able condition and running condition. If its a certain year/make/model you are looking for and you want it certified (more tests.. I believe 140 point test) then you have to buy from an infinti dealership. Because they are the ones who certify it. To certify a car it has to be under a certain amount of miles and year to be certified. Sometimes have a better warranty than new cars (ill cover this when I do my write up later).

Lastly, when you are trading in, what are the first things the dealership looks at (i.e. A/C, console, etc.) to insure a feasible purchase?

When we did trade ins, all we did was make sure it was original paint, nothing too broken and it was in running condition because knew the black book was gonna give us the real trade in value anyway

Dont be fooled by a sales person "silent" trade in evaluation of your car though. Old school trick was to walk around the car (as the sales person) silently and instead of saying whats wrong with the car, run your finger over the dent or scratched rim or ripped leather and dont say anything about it, just made it sure the customer saw it so they knew they fukked up.. and they started to devalue their car in their own mind