How much trouble is Sony really in?

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oh so we’re the trouble?

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Sony doesn't care they never come out strong but damn they bring tremendous heat in the clutch consistently!!!:wow: y'all know this...
 

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I was sketched this. Simplified but my point will come across all the same.

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Top square is gaming right now, more or less. The bottom is the reality that Microsoft is trying to create. Question is can they get there. That is what they are hellbent in doing. Can they make it, ultimately, I believe that they can. For the past few generations, the statistics have borne out that for the venn diagram for gamers that get the God of wars, uncharteds, last of us and other first party single player games is not that large. 115 million ps4s sold, 20 million copies of Spiderman sold. My point is that a lot of owners that have Spiderman also have the aforementioned games too, thus leaving around 95 million people to play other games or who isn't invested in most of Sony offerings if at all but just get consoles for other games like previously for yakuza or other Japanese games for example, or simply gta and/or call of duty. Taking that 95 million, plus the other platforms that have users that play games that don't typical come to console, while poaching some of Sony and Nintendos exclusive fan base. Crusader kings 3 was day one on Gamepass, a huge pc game for example. Basically, Sony is going to look up, if they already haven't and go :ohhh:

Thats just like Parris said on the Xcast podcast today, he doesn't think Sony can get a Gamepass like model working because they can't front the money upfront like Microsoft can. You have to lose a lot to win. Playstation makes up over 30% of all of sonys revenue. That money can't be thrown into an endless pit, hoping for something, not to mention, one is a trillion dollar company and the other is multi billion.

Overall, now that everyone has seen how Microsoft is getting down this gen, the logistics of them getting there is clear. Also, I'm about to take my victory lap here.

As I've said numerous times, battle of attrition and Google Stadia was going to be the first casualty. They saw Microsoft get Bethesda and increase the hiring at all of these studios after buying them made Google, yes Google, tuck their chain in their shirt while dipping out the backdoor. They realized early enough that they were playing footsies with gaming while Microsoft was with the shyts. After a while, you can't outrun it, it being the money. It's not like there is a magical formula to the process, it's warchest, warchest, warchest. Bullyball with the money. They could have done this at any point in time during the Ballmer years but they had a foot in, foot out approach. Now, it's all in. I told y'all their actions this gen would make people look at the prior gens like wtf. Watch the next Battlefield hit Gamepass day one. Audience of over 20 million and growing, getting a decent amount of players to get your dlc and other shyt, I don't see why EA wouldn't do. We are just watching the steps on the way to the coronation.
 

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seriously tho...good breakdown :leon:

Top square is gaming right now, more or less. The bottom is the reality that Microsoft is trying to create. Question is can they get there. That is what they are hellbent in doing. Can they make it, ultimately, I believe that they can. For the past few generations, the statistics have borne out that for the venn diagram for gamers that get the God of wars, uncharteds, last of us and other first party single player games is not that large. 115 million ps4s sold, 20 million copies of Spiderman sold. My point is that a lot of owners that have Spiderman also have the aforementioned games too, thus leaving around 95 million people to play other games or who isn't invested in most of Sony offerings if at all but just get consoles for other games like previously for yakuza or other Japanese games for example, or simply gta and/or call of duty. Taking that 95 million, plus the other platforms that have users that play games that don't typical come to console, while poaching some of Sony and Nintendos exclusive fan base. Crusader kings 3 was day one on Gamepass, a huge pc game for example. Basically, Sony is going to look up, if they already haven't and go :ohhh:

Thats just like Parris said on the Xcast podcast today, he doesn't think Sony can get a Gamepass like model working because they can't front the money upfront like Microsoft can. You have to lose a lot to win. Playstation makes up over 30% of all of sonys revenue. That money can't be thrown into an endless pit, hoping for something, not to mention, one is a trillion dollar company and the other is multi billion.

Overall, now that everyone has seen how Microsoft is getting down this gen, the logistics of them getting there is clear. Also, I'm about to take my victory lap here.

As I've said numerous times, battle of attrition and Google Stadia was going to be the first casualty. They saw Microsoft get Bethesda and increase the hiring at all of these studios after buying them made Google, yes Google, tuck their chain in their shirt while dipping out the backdoor. They realized early enough that they were playing footsies with gaming while Microsoft was with the shyts. After a while, you can't outrun it, it being the money. It's not like there is a magical formula to the process, it's warchest, warchest, warchest. Bullyball with the money. They could have done this at any point in time during the Ballmer years but they had a foot in, foot out approach. Now, it's all in. I told y'all their actions this gen would make people look at the prior gens like wtf. Watch the next Battlefield hit Gamepass day one. Audience of over 20 million and growing, getting a decent amount of players to get your dlc and other shyt, I don't see why EA wouldn't do. We are just watching the steps on the way to the coronation.
 

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I was sketched this. Simplified but my point will come across all the same.

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Top square is gaming right now, more or less. The bottom is the reality that Microsoft is trying to create. Question is can they get there. That is what they are hellbent in doing. Can they make it, ultimately, I believe that they can. For the past few generations, the statistics have borne out that for the venn diagram for gamers that get the God of wars, uncharteds, last of us and other first party single player games is not that large. 115 million ps4s sold, 20 million copies of Spiderman sold. My point is that a lot of owners that have Spiderman also have the aforementioned games too, thus leaving around 95 million people to play other games or who isn't invested in most of Sony offerings if at all but just get consoles for other games like previously for yakuza or other Japanese games for example, or simply gta and/or call of duty. Taking that 95 million, plus the other platforms that have users that play games that don't typical come to console, while poaching some of Sony and Nintendos exclusive fan base. Crusader kings 3 was day one on Gamepass, a huge pc game for example. Basically, Sony is going to look up, if they already haven't and go :ohhh:

Thats just like Parris said on the Xcast podcast today, he doesn't think Sony can get a Gamepass like model working because they can't front the money upfront like Microsoft can. You have to lose a lot to win. Playstation makes up over 30% of all of sonys revenue. That money can't be thrown into an endless pit, hoping for something, not to mention, one is a trillion dollar company and the other is multi billion.

Overall, now that everyone has seen how Microsoft is getting down this gen, the logistics of them getting there is clear. Also, I'm about to take my victory lap here.

As I've said numerous times, battle of attrition and Google Stadia was going to be the first casualty. They saw Microsoft get Bethesda and increase the hiring at all of these studios after buying them made Google, yes Google, tuck their chain in their shirt while dipping out the backdoor. They realized early enough that they were playing footsies with gaming while Microsoft was with the shyts. After a while, you can't outrun it, it being the money. It's not like there is a magical formula to the process, it's warchest, warchest, warchest. Bullyball with the money. They could have done this at any point in time during the Ballmer years but they had a foot in, foot out approach. Now, it's all in. I told y'all their actions this gen would make people look at the prior gens like wtf. Watch the next Battlefield hit Gamepass day one. Audience of over 20 million and growing, getting a decent amount of players to get your dlc and other shyt, I don't see why EA wouldn't do. We are just watching the steps on the way to the coronation.
Well said, you either see the vision or you don't.

It's odd to me that most don't, but foresight isn't most people strong point... nor do they really care until it's inevitable
 
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