How many black people work for Vice/Noisey/Complex/SPIN/Rolling Stone? (UPDATE :BUZZFEED included)

[KnowledgeOfSelf17]

I don't think you understand how difficult it is to get your foot in the door in media, especially journalism, as a Black person. The people that are typically hired by the Buzzfeed's and Complex's come from backgrounds where they can afford to waste time and money on a journalism degree. These people often go to the elite journalism schools which are given preferential treatment when it comes to recruiting. The few Black people that are in these programs have to work harder and are often given the short end of the stick, at least on campus when it comes to building your resume. You're already behind the 8 ball. Its the reason why there are very few Black people in sports media despite sports being filled with Black bodies. Journalism has a huge diversity problem that the industry chooses to ignore. Its quite ironic that the Buzzfeed's and HuffPo's of the world cover SJW topics and do a complete 180 when it comes to hiring and leveling the playing field.




We can start our own outlets, but without the funding how can we compete? Doesn't matter if the content is good. You need the backing to get it out there. If you don't see it as an issue that Complex got their start by appropriating Black culture and then not giving back by having representation from that demographic, then do you because I can't change your mind.

we need to just fukking do it. Podcast game can be something, we just have to keep it 100 and not become pussies after some little sponsorship.
we have to speak our mind and be free on our outlet.

 

[Unknown Poster]

I don't think you understand how difficult it is to get your foot in the door in media, especially journalism, as a Black person. The people that are typically hired by the Buzzfeed's and Complex's come from backgrounds where they can afford to waste time and money on a journalism degree. These people often go to the elite journalism schools which are given preferential treatment when it comes to recruiting. The few Black people that are in these programs have to work harder and are often given the short end of the stick, at least on campus when it comes to building your resume. You're already behind the 8 ball. Its the reason why there are very few Black people in sports media despite sports being filled with Black bodies. Journalism has a huge diversity problem that the industry chooses to ignore. Its quite ironic that the Buzzfeed's and HuffPo's of the world cover SJW topics and do a complete 180 when it comes to hiring and leveling the playing field.




We can start our own outlets, but without the funding how can we compete? Doesn't matter if the content is good. You need the backing to get it out there. If you don't see it as an issue that Complex got their start by appropriating Black culture and then not giving back by having representation from that demographic, then do you because I can't change your mind.

Exactly! These publications want to hire peopel that have four year degrees at big name institutions....most of those institutions are either too price restrictive for blacks to get in...and if they do get it...they have to work five times as hard to get doors slammed in their faces.

And it would be easy to start a competitive media outlet that would rival Complex...if we had the backing of a multimillion dollar corporation like Condé Nast, or Titel Media, or Hbo and Disney like Complex Media Network and Vice has...this is why they can afford to pump out so much content and pay their staff a decent salary. Alot of black owned websites and media outlets aren't even on the same scale....either their cutting back on spending and staff due to competetive media outlets or they are pretty much ran by less than 5 people running the site from their apartments and running off of solely advertising dollars or donations.

But lets face it...the reason they have so few black faces there is cause they want to rewrite history and further whitewash black culture.

 

[Rell Lauren]

And I can tell you where I've worked and who I've written for, but there are too many eyes on this site.

I don't miss being a writer. The pay sucked. I've been fortunate to work for companies with more prestige that compensate better since I went deeper into digital beyond writing. Its cool to say you work for those places, but you eating Ramen most nights.

 

[Unknown Poster]

@Sagat
That jj evans c00nlette is an example of the future: kids growing up viewing their culture through white lenses.

Yeah. Ive been noticing this perspective. Its the same one that allows people like Andrew Schulz to say things like "Hip-Hop isn't black culture, it's American culture" that further remove black people from black culture. If people have to have white people dictate black cultuee, music, and art to us that's the end game. There is no mutual appreciation for black culture or black people with these outlets...just domination of the artform monetarily and creatively.

And plus...considereing their silence on issues like police brutality and unarmed black people getting shot and killed by cops...it's obvious complex doesnt give a flying fukk about black people other than for entertainment purposes only.

 

[Unknown Poster]

This is a tale as old as time...and a song as old as rhyme though.

These media outlets are no different from the russians, poles, arabs, chinese, and indians who set up shop in the hood, have tons of black patrons shopping there, but refuse to hire any black people while continuing to extract dollars from them.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

As soon as I read that i stopped taking that dude seriously.

he obviously salty we called his ass out and his beloved publication. And he trying to justify why thwy dont hire black pwople like that on some...."i dont give a fukk what color you are..." bs. Obviously the people running the show at complex do care about color. Enough to have two black people there, and to hire their white buddies and their white girls they want to fukk...that dude needs to shut the entire fukk up. They made a platform using black culture to proliferate the corporate good ole boys club. fukk him and Marc Ecko.

and there you have it...trying to explain away their nepotism and racism

 

[chiefdogg]

and there you have it...trying to explain away their nepotism and racism

I'm in the I.T. field and the same shyt is happening.

 

[Positive Posting]

I don't think you understand how difficult it is to get your foot in the door in media, especially journalism, as a Black person. The people that are typically hired by the Buzzfeed's and Complex's come from backgrounds where they can afford to waste time and money on a journalism degree. These people often go to the elite journalism schools which are given preferential treatment when it comes to recruiting. The few Black people that are in these programs have to work harder and are often given the short end of the stick, at least on campus when it comes to building your resume. You're already behind the 8 ball. Its the reason why there are very few Black people in sports media despite sports being filled with Black bodies. Journalism has a huge diversity problem that the industry chooses to ignore. Its quite ironic that the Buzzfeed's and HuffPo's of the world cover SJW topics and do a complete 180 when it comes to hiring and leveling the playing field.




We can start our own outlets, but without the funding how can we compete? Doesn't matter if the content is good. You need the backing to get it out there. If you don't see it as an issue that Complex got their start by appropriating Black culture and then not giving back by having representation from that demographic, then do you because I can't change your mind.

its cool, we got different perspectives, thats fukkin life. people always have different perspectives. i dont hate you for yours or because i dont agree with it. I took out the time to write to you, cuz your post reflect you a smart nikka and i fukks with you, and i felt like i could i have a discussion with you

i dont really wanna go to back and forth, i dont have the energy for that kind of shyt lol. like you said we both got our own perspectives on shyt, we diff ppl, like i said thats life my nikka, ive lived enough and seen enough to understand that fact, you digg.

now look man, im on that blame the white man shyt too, just not in this particular case you feel me. Im trying to understand your point of view, but i cant get with it.

to me your point of view comes off whiny as fukk, no disrespect.

that "" were black people, we helpless point of view. and tired of that shyt man. In this particular case w/ complex, media outlets, w.e. the fukk we talking about, not some genarilzed bullshyt. I feel that mentality, in this particular situation in adressing black media platforms and outlets. It sets us back more than white people do.

I know mark eko, the 100, 200, 300, million dollar man, or whatever the fukk he got. He founded complex, he funded to build this complex empire and help build it to what it is today.

My thing and my original argument was that. Complex was never a black only media outlet and platform from the begining. Back then, the scene that i was describing, that new wave. It was looked at as hipster shyt. in 2008, everything that complex would cover was looked at as hipsterish, from the fashion, the music, the blogging, the type of shyt they covered, back in 2008 this shyt was looked at as hipster shyt, it just so happen that in todays times its the norm. Thats what complex did, thats what complex was, you understand?

They were never a media outlet or platform focused on black entertainment only. They also covered indie rock bands, indie underground white artists like The xx for example. They represented for the cool people who was into all that shyt.

The people at complex built complex to be what it is today through quality, presentation, growing with the times, expanding, and hard work.

Its hard for black people, we already fukking know that shyt, we been knew that shyt, we come from fukking slavery my nikka, we come from seggregation, and all that bullshyt. Black outlets dont have funding, ok i feel you. But what black outlets are you talking about? which ones? name them please lol.

In this particular sector, I cant support the whinning, the excuses. I just cant. maybe on some other shyt, that has to deal with our way of life, our struggles, and enviroment and shyt like that. But not this.

I dont even wanna use wshh w. you as an example, cuz i feel you gonna start talking about some other shyt, like its a bad platform that promotes woo, woo, woo. When thats not the point im trying to make.

Ima do it though. You look at wshh right. I was on the shyt in early 2008, everyday after school, watching fight videos, beef videos, rapper vlogs, music videos, bytches twerking, ratchet shyt. Wshh, came from the mothafukkin mudd, no million dollar nikka like mark eko backing it. But nikka its about to be 10 years since the shyt surfaced, and this shyt done became one of our biggest media outlets, whther you liked it or not, whether you agree with there content, representation or not. Why? cuz nikkaz worked hard, nikkaz stayed consistent, they grew with the times, they were orginal, one of the only platforms in 2008, 2009 that gave us constant content, i cant say too much about quality and presentation. But just the fact that they worked hard and built this shyt for almost 10 years, and grew, and payed attention and werent ignorant about that. It made them our biggest platform, in hiphop for hiphop.

My perspective is, if you want it you can get it. Stop complaining.

I aint talking about espn not hiring black people, Wall street journal, or w.e fukking white outlets you wanna focus on. Those are white outlets right? White people aint never gave us shyt, just to give to us and never will. You gotta get out here and get it my nikka. Stop blaming these white folks for not fukkin witchu when you already know that. You either play the game or create your own path and go hard and work hard at it. Or you do both.

 

[BarackStar]

Shut up cac. You giving props to cacs for changing the narrative and making hipster/gay the norm in rap. This ain't shyt new when you control the media and purposely keep the people the genre is built on OUT of the media then it's easy to shift the narrative. That's not commendable that's called theft thats rigging the game and has been done countless times over. It's no different than gentrification.

 

[Unknown Poster]

My perspective is, if you want it you can get it. Stop complaining.

This sums up everything you have to say.

So black people pointing out unfair hiring practices and discrimination in the workplace is "complaining"? Pointing out the unfair advantage whites have in black media is "complaining"?

People like you are so transparent you might as well be a window.

"Can you black people just shut up about racism and just accept it?"

 

[Murkman]

See it's one thing when you don't have the ability to mass produce magazines at newstands but a lot of these are e-zines.


You can't tell me we here at The Coli couldn't band up and do something just as good if not better including live show reviews, etc. It's not like we don't do it for the free anyways.

But y'all ain't really bout it LOL. Just complaining for complaining's sake.

I tried writing two articles for Rap Genius, wasn't simp/simplistic enough for their White majority liking and too in depth, go figure. Would love help from other fans of Rap, only we can change this culture, not those outdated Victorian culture vultures.

When all I see is Kanye, Kendrick and Drake in headlines that was a sign that I had no one supporting me, fukking hate feeling I'm by myself in this. So that was another thing that got my intuition going, to not contribute anymore to their site.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Maybe its time to stop begging to be part of something that only wants to use us. Maybe we should stop giving interviews and content to these culture vulture sites. Complex and their ilk want to cover and co-opt blacc culture but not to hire blacc ppl....ok...well we wont give u material to get that ad money...cover your own shyt

 

[Scoop]

Huffington Post

 

[Big_Mass]

My perspective is, if you want it you can get it. Stop complaining.

I aint talking about espn not hiring black people, Wall street journal, or w.e fukking white outlets you wanna focus on. Those are white outlets right? White people aint never gave us shyt, just to give to us and never will. You gotta get out here and get it my nikka. Stop blaming these white folks for not fukkin witchu when you already know that. You either play the game or create your own path and go hard and work hard at it. Or you do both.

I'm getting strong vibes from you.

 

[Unknown Poster]

This is the founder of Vice yall who got kicked off the staff.


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