How long are we gonna keep pretending hip hop culture as it is, is negative and a terrible look for the black community?
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Like Chief Keef and Future.
They don't want black folk embracing the 9-5 life or be regular people. Gotta be Tupac in a Business Suit, or Trina in an apron with money in the bank account to be relevant. The hatred people have for J Cole and Kendrick for being "boring" is literally out of crabs in a barrel shyt.
A lot of people in jail cells because they wanted to be thorough and be gangstas as a way to be "authentically black" and not be a lame or sellout.
god shamgod
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But those tracks are over 30 years old
Show me one positive track, that has gotten popularity, that was made within the last 12 months?
I don’t bump current music , so I couldn’t tell you one
And I was saying the genre in general. That wakk drill “music” is the real culprit. Hip hop has always had violent self destructive lyrics/songs but that drill shyt ridiculous with it
RaspberryFitted
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why do y’all focus on what things should be instead of what they are
CreepyMcCreeperson
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Why is the problem the guns, and not the poor coping skills, poor values, and lack of non violent conflict resolutions?I’m more concerned with the easy access to all the guns in the hood and the intentional things cacs did to create the never ending cycle of poverty. You dudes really have to stop being surface level thinkers. I promise if you care about the plight of the community you should be more concerned with politics than hiphop
Are there a high number of drive bys, and shootings in trailer parks? Do you think they aren’t armed?
Are people in the hood doing all they can do to improve their circumstances?
As for hip hop, I am not in favor of media that portrays black people in a negative light, especially material we create ourselves. I don’t want to hear anything about record labels forcing this on us. We can get people fired within a day for a racist tweet, but have no smoke for the record labels, or rappers putting out debauchery.
Have you seen the reactions in the Freaknik thread. We've got brothers both on here and across social media claiming that Black men are being made the face of sexual assault because a documentary featuring 20 year old footage of rowdy college students is dropping.
It's pretty interesting when and where the "we need to control our image" conversations come out and also when we choose to defend content that outright tarnishes the Black male image.
CreepyMcCreeperson
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They chewed me up in that thread too.Have you seen the reactions in the Freaknik thread. We've got brothers both on here and across social media claiming that Black men are being made the face of sexual assault because a documentary featuring 20 year old footage of rowdy college students is dropping.
It's pretty interesting when and where the "we need to control our image" conversations come out and also when we choose to defend content that outright tarnishes the Black male image.
Black men wanting positive representation of ourselves somehow turns into, we’re anti black, yet no smoke for the black men who are actually doing bad things, and terrorizing other black people. The argument is, they’re still black, yet let a black Republican say something slick, and all of a sudden, it’s not “he’s still a black man, the system made him think that way”.
And no, I’m not a damn Republican.
You think those guns showed up in the inner city by chance. They were put there the same way tobacco companies gave out free cigarettes to black kids in the inner cities or why most African Americans under 60-70 can’t swim.Real outside forces, some obvious, some you have to look for are to cause for the plight in these places. Not music in the last 30 years. People were killing each other when men conked their hair and listened to Doo-wop music. Lack of education, poverty, hopelessness is what y’all should be focusing on, but music is easy low hanging fruit to attack
This whole culture discussion really harkens back to black people's unique situation here in America. We're the only group of people who have been thoroughly cut off from our ancestors and forefathers and thus was never properly taught and instructed on how to maintain the way of life that we were supposed to be abiding by.
We're basically at the bottom of the American caste system and there's been all sorts of social engineering and indoctrination and image destroying methods they have utilized to keep us lost and bewildered.
This shyt is all fukked up.
We're basically at the bottom of the American caste system and there's been all sorts of social engineering and indoctrination and image destroying methods they have utilized to keep us lost and bewildered.
This shyt is all fukked up.
If you’re a dumbass you can just say that not you in particular. Music is not the only form of media that can influence one to do heinous acts like hov said Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper but u peons just want to ignore that. Like there’s a literal article about people that are obsessed w celebrity and celebrity culture are fukking dumb so that does apply to people being influenced by rappers be thankful you’re not one of them
CreepyMcCreeperson
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So they gave us the guns, and told us to shoot each other? Are those the same exact guns? Stop making excuses. This is as bad as conservatives blaming the drug problems in the suburbs on illegals. Nobody is forcing them to do drugs, and overdose.You think those guns showed up in the inner city by chance. They were put there the same way tobacco companies gave out free cigarettes to black kids in the inner cities or why most African Americans under 60-70 can’t swim.Real outside forces, some obvious, some you have to look for are to cause for the plight in these places. Not music in the last 30 years. People were killing each other when men conked their hair and listened to Doo-wop music. Lack of education, poverty, hopelessness is what y’all should be focusing on, but music is easy low hanging fruit to attack
We don’t value life. And we make music about drugs, sex, and violence, and young boys with no positive male role models see these rappers, and mimic them. We keep doing the same wrong things, and expect the government to hold our hands, and fix all our problems.
Worthless Loser
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Gangsta/Drill rap's influence is through imagery. Most youth desire to be popular and cool. When they see rappers wear certain clothes, have all the jewelry, women, money, cars, act super tough, etc, they think that's how they have to look and act in order to be considered cool, get the women, have the money, etc. Especially when they see the people around them behaving the same way. They will model their behavior after people they look up to and carry that behavior into adulthood. It acts as a road map on how to navigate life and be successful. It isn't just "entertainment". It's viewed as a lifestyle to them. Celebrities have that influence over people. Look at how many women act like the women they see on TV.
Offering compromise, showing vulnerability, treating women with respect, being respectful to others is seen as weakness and goes against everything the rappers tell them. When you listen to the lyrics over and over, the lyrics & the lifestyle itself is literally imprinted into your brain and the lyrics are like a mini bible that directs them on how to move in life. It reminds me of when someone on here said Jay-Z's lyric "Show you how to move in a room full of vultures" was how they approached working in a corporate setting.
You cannot use the reasoning that "well I didn't turn out like this and I loved gangsta rap" or "I know so and so was heavy into drill/gangsta rap and they didn't turn out like this". It's more to it. Some youth have a good father to look up to or a good family structure that protects the kid, others are simply not impressionable and don't play follow up the leader. People got different personalities that steer them in different directions, but there is a solid size of the youth population that is impressionable and want to gravitate toward what's trendy/cool to be in the cool kids club.
No kid wants to be seen as a lame.
Offering compromise, showing vulnerability, treating women with respect, being respectful to others is seen as weakness and goes against everything the rappers tell them. When you listen to the lyrics over and over, the lyrics & the lifestyle itself is literally imprinted into your brain and the lyrics are like a mini bible that directs them on how to move in life. It reminds me of when someone on here said Jay-Z's lyric "Show you how to move in a room full of vultures" was how they approached working in a corporate setting.
You cannot use the reasoning that "well I didn't turn out like this and I loved gangsta rap" or "I know so and so was heavy into drill/gangsta rap and they didn't turn out like this". It's more to it. Some youth have a good father to look up to or a good family structure that protects the kid, others are simply not impressionable and don't play follow up the leader. People got different personalities that steer them in different directions, but there is a solid size of the youth population that is impressionable and want to gravitate toward what's trendy/cool to be in the cool kids club.
No kid wants to be seen as a lame.
CreepyMcCreeperson
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Stop it. We had intact black families up until the 70s. Most of us had married grandparents. There have been thriving black towns. We see everyone else doing things one way, but we want to do it the other way. Stopping so many kids out of wedlock would be a good start.