How long are we gonna keep pretending hip hop culture as it is, is negative and a terrible look for the black community?

[skylove4]

Stop it. We had intact black families up until the 70s. Most of us had married grandparents. There have been thriving black towns. We see everyone else doing things one way, but we want to do it the other way. Stopping so many kids out of wedlock would be a good start.

You’re looking at the past through rose colored glasses. Cats like you think everything was like black walk street back then and everything was kumbaya there were poor, middle class, and wealthy black folks just like today. There was also just as much if not more fukked shyt happening. It just wasn’t talked about. It’s childish to think just because people married more or went to church things were Gucci. I’m having a hard time believing cats can be this naive.

 

[Matt504]

Imagine the same exact song but all of the dead Black male victims they're disrespecting being dead white males instead. Is there a world where such a video could stay up on YouTube for 2 years amassing more than 40 million views?

When we say "it's just entertainment" the "it" means "Black death".

 

[I Really Mean It]

black culture as a whole is rotten.

our “culture,” if it can be termed as such, consists of self-denigration sold to white audiences for biscuits. there is nothing empowering in the entertainment that black people create, and the vast majority of our cultural output - music, television, film, literature - is produced through a filter manned and operated by non-blacks.

black entertainment is merely a vehicle through which a microscopically tiny segment of our community prostitutes itself for the bourgeoisie trinkets of the white middle class.

 

[Vandelay]

I love me some ignorant ass 90's and 2000's rap, but I'm wise enough to discern that it's entertainment. You're being disingenuous if you think it's not negatively effecting a large segment of our population.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You’re looking at the past through rose colored glasses. Cats like you think everything was like black walk street back then and everything was kumbaya there were poor, middle class, and wealthy black folks just like today. There was also just as much if not more fukked shyt happening. It just wasn’t talked about. It’s childish to think just because people married more or went to church things were Gucci. I’m having a hard time believing cats can be this naive.

Hip hop is bad for our image, and a terrible influence. Your words and thoughts impact your life. If the lyrics are drugs, violence, and sex, and you don’t have positive influences at home telling you not to do that, it’s going to negatively affect you. If you are constantly told life is a struggle, that is going to be your reality. All the rappers have to do is create positive lyrics, but they don’t. And there are too many of us who WANT to hear the violent lyrics. Where did that desire come from?

 

[skylove4]

Hip hop is bad for our image, and a terrible influence. Your words and thoughts impact your life. If the lyrics are drugs, violence, and sex, and you don’t have positive influences at home telling you not to do that, it’s going to negatively affect you. If you are constantly told life is a struggle, that is going to be your reality. All the rappers have to do is create positive lyrics, but they don’t. And there are too many of us who WANT to hear the violent lyrics. Where did that desire come from?

Wrong Hip hop was created because of the situation people lived in as an outlet of expression. Struggle created it, not the other way around

 

[CW_1991]

Wrong Hip hop was created because of the situation people lived in as an outlet of expression. Struggle created it, not the other way around

This. Hip Hop and all the negative aspects about it is basically just a manifestation of our current state of being. And our current state of being is a result of not having a culture.

 

[skokiaan]

Hip Hop culture as a entity isn’t a negative influence. Globally, it’s the most influential genre of all time. Free styling, graffiti, DJ and story telling.

Gangsta rap was just a inside scope in what’s spiraling in the neighborhood. Violence always been part of human nature. The story was just being told on radio.

Now if you’re talking about drill music most of these rappers are self incriminating themselves on video and waxx.

Eventually, their identities get captured. They either get caught in the street shyt or the police finds them.

In Hollywood they say art imitates life, in the hood we say life imitates art.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Wrong Hip hop was created because of the situation people lived in as an outlet of expression. Struggle created it, not the other way around

I am talking about the impact on today’s youth. We need to stop telling these kids life is a constant struggle, and stop rapping about killing each other. Even the R&B songs are mostly about drugs and sex, and have explicit lyrics. It’s difficult to find black music you can listen to in front of your kids.

 

[CW_1991]

I am talking about the impact on today’s youth. We need to stop telling these kids life is a constant struggle, and stop rapping about killing each other. Even the R&B songs are mostly about drugs and sex, and have explicit lyrics. It’s difficult to find black music you can listen to in front of your kids.

Music is not the linchpin for which our people's well-being hangs in the balance. If all of these types of music disappeared tomorrow in place of something more positive do you really think it's going to cause a great social change when it comes to our people current standing?

 

[skylove4]

I am talking about the impact on today’s youth. We need to stop telling these kids life is a constant struggle, and stop rapping about killing each other. Even the R&B songs are mostly about drugs and sex, and have explicit lyrics. It’s difficult to find black music you can listen to in front of your kids.

Now you sound like a conservative sending empty thoughts and prayers to school children after the millionth school shooting instead of enacting sensible gun legislation . We don’t need to tell kids anything ,we need to DO
this energy needs to be going towards ending poverty, better education and mental health services etc. What use is it stoping hip-hop and having kids listen to jazz and classical music if when they walk out the door everything is the same.

 

[Kliq_Souf]

Like Chief Keef and Future.

They don't want black folk embracing the 9-5 life or be regular people. Gotta be Tupac in a Business Suit, or Trina in an apron with money in the bank account to be relevant. The hatred people have for J Cole and Kendrick for being "boring" is literally out of crabs in a barrel shyt.

They’re literally the biggest rappers of the past decade plus, along with Drake another non-gangster image figure


The music isn’t poisoning the kids minds like some of y’all are saying. Get off Worldstar and IG and go outside, a lot of these young men are intelligent. There knuckleheads just like every generation. But more and more black men and women are educated and going to school than ever before

 

[Matt504]

They’re literally the biggest rappers of the past decade plus, along with Drake another non-gangster image figure


The music isn’t poisoning the kids minds like some of y’all are saying. Get off Worldstar and IG and go outside, a lot of these young men are intelligent. There knuckleheads just like every generation. But more and more black men and women are educated and going to school than ever before

According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), a sector of the U.S. Department of Education, 84 percent of Black students lack proficiency in mathematics and 85 percent of Black students lack proficiency in reading skills.

Many of America’s Black youths cannot read or do math — and that imperils us all

The largest, richest and most powerful country in the world is failing miserably at educating its youths.

thehill.com

 

[Kenny West]

They’re literally the biggest rappers of the past decade plus, along with Drake another non-gangster image figure


The music isn’t poisoning the kids minds like some of y’all are saying. Get off Worldstar and IG and go outside, a lot of these young men are intelligent. There knuckleheads just like every generation. But more and more black men and women are educated and going to school than ever before

Kendricks fans aren't black (it fukking pains me to say that) and Gen Z has made hating on Jcole into a meme.

 

[Kliq_Souf]

Kendricks fans aren't black (it fukking pains me to say that) and Gen Z has made hating on Jcole into a meme.

That’s not true
I know plenty of HS age black kids that listen to both heavy