How long are we gonna keep pretending hip hop culture as it is, is negative and a terrible look for the black community?

[Kenny West]

That’s not true
I know plenty of HS age black kids that listen to both heavy

You know lots of high schoolers?

I saw Kendrick live on an arena tour date during the peak(so far) of his career. I could count on one hand the amount of black people there besides me and black girls there with white bfs. If you don't believe me pull up some concerts on youtube. Its a travesty.

As for Jcole just google image search his name and "trash" to see the sheer amount of memes, then do the same with Future/Durk/NBA YB for comparison.

 

[skylove4]

You know lots of high schoolers?

I saw Kendrick live on an arena tour date during the peak(so far) of his career. I could count on one hand the amount of black people there besides me and black girls there with white bfs. If you don't believe me pull up some concerts on youtube. Its a travesty.

As for Jcole just google image search his name and "trash" to see the sheer amount of memes, then do the same with Future/Durk/NBA YB for comparison.

Just like every hiphop concert since the 90s look at this DMX crowd, it’s snowing

 

[Kenny West]

Just like every hiphop concert since the 90s look at this DMX crowd, it’s snowing

If you think that I have to question how many concerts you been to.

There is a stark difference between no black people vs more white people. There were seriously less than like 10 black folk in the entire WELLS FARGO ARENA. ARENA. Im not talking about a festival here

For comparison I've seen Wale fill up an entire theater venue with 90% black folks.

 

[Shadow King]

Mainstream had a chance to bring it back to the glory days when Jcole, Kendrick and Krizzle came into the scene but the white execs were like “nope! Gotta keep dumbing down the youth!” So they started pushing drill, other ignorant rap and gave ratchet hoes a platform to destroy the female community.

People chose the bullshyt and labels just blew it up to mainstream levels.

 

[Big Simpin Losing Cheese]

 

[Kliq_Souf]

You know lots of high schoolers?

I saw Kendrick live on an arena tour date during the peak(so far) of his career. I could count on one hand the amount of black people there besides me and black girls there with white bfs. If you don't believe me pull up some concerts on youtube. Its a travesty.

As for Jcole just google image search his name and "trash" to see the sheer amount of memes, then do the same with Future/Durk/NBA YB for comparison.

I help coach basketball and football, don’t start that goofy shyt
and I have siblings and many young cousins that are in that age range

But that’s beside the point, I interact with young people and don’t deem them as super predators just because they listen to Youngboy or Nardo Wick
Or young women as brainless hoes just cuz they like Ice Spice or Glorilla

Some of the shyt I see on here, borderline George Zimmerman logic

 

[skylove4]

I help coach basketball and football, don’t start that goofy shyt
and I have siblings and many young cousins that are in that age range

But that’s beside the point, I interact with young people and don’t deem them as super predators just because they listen to Youngboy or Nardo Wick
Or young women as brainless hoes just cuz they like Ice Spice or Glorilla

Some of the shyt I see on here, borderline George Zimmerman logic

Sad but true

 

[MasterThought]

Music is not the linchpin for which our people's well-being hangs in the balance.

It actually is, which is why ((they)) have gone to extreme measures to weaponize our music. (Do some research on 432Hz Vs. 440Hz)

Its obvious that the average person has no idea how big of a role music plays in society.

The average person has no idea how much music influences humans down to the DNA level.

Music has inspired an entire generation of black males to think it's cool to walk outside with their pants sagging below their butts like subhumans.

If all of these types of music disappeared tomorrow in place of something more positive do you really think it's going to cause a great social change when it comes to our people current standing?

Absolutely.

Replacing a culture of death, destruction , extreme materialism, toxicity and divisiveness with a culture of peace, love, unity and a focus on education would absolutely have an affect. The fact that you don't think so is absolutely mind boggling to me.

Not to mention the positive affect that it would have on our overall self-image and how we view ourselves and each other.

Current rap (on a subconscious level) programs black people to fear and distrust other black people due to the imagery we constantly see of each other.

"The White man's ice is cooler" mentality is largely due to blacks being socially engineered to think lower of other black people......rap music plays a huge role in this.

 

[CW_1991]

It actually is, which is why ((they)) have gone to extreme measures to weaponize our music. (Do some research on 432Hz Vs. 440Hz)

Its obvious that the average person has no idea how big of a role music plays in society.

The average person has no idea how much music influences humans down to the DNA level.

Music has inspired an entire generation of black males to think it's cool to walk outside with their pants sagging below their butts like subhumans.




Absolutely.

Replacing a culture of death, destruction , extreme materialism, toxicity and divisiveness with a culture of peace, love, unity and a focus on education would absolutely have an affect. The fact that you don't think so is absolutely mind boggling to me.

Not to mention the positive affect that it would have on our overall self-image and how we view ourselves and each other.

Current rap (on a subconscious level) programs black people to fear and distrust other black people due to the imagery we constantly see of each other.

"The White man's ice is cooler" mentality is largely due to blacks being socially engineered to think lower of other black people......rap music plays a huge role in this.

I hear what you're saying, but it sounds like blind idealism to me. How exactly would all these things come about as a replacement? What's going to start the spark for this great change on the large scale?

As a collective I'm convinced we wouldn't even know where to start (in the regards to developing a real culture essentially from scratch). And that's not even getting into white supremacy and it's various means of influence and plots for keeping us compromised and at the bottom. Organic growth doesn't happen under those conditions.

Too many of our people are too far gone and to suddenly be made to change. There's no order, we're living in a matriarchy by design, and no group or Nation or what have you of people ever thrives in that kind of dynamic. Music isn't going to just fix all of these problems. It's way more nuanced than that. Sure, it may have some degree of positives I suppose, but in the grand scheme of things it's not going to move the meter much.

Once we change ourselves first, the music will change.

 

[Mission249]

I don't even want to have the argument about if hip hop influences people to be violent. That debate has been going nowhere for decades.

What I do want to point out is that hip hop has undoubtedly normalized the idea of black death. Even my peers who would never be violent don't flinch when hearing about blacks getting murdered anymore. I love hip hop but what other culture on earth sings songs about killing each other at the scale that we do?

 

[DarkmanX]

Just like every hiphop concert since the 90s look at this DMX crowd, it’s snowing

Bad example tho. This wasnt a DMX concert. This was a festival (Woodstock 99)

 

[Fresh]

And that it’s influence on the youth (specifically black youth) is not something we should be cool with at all


As adults we should be serious about this at some point


Or are we just gonna keep brushing it off and say “music doesn’t influence people” like the usual? Which we know is false


I mean this shyt clearly is NOT a positive note for us. If we just gonna keep tip toeing around it and pretend it’s not a real problem I’ll shut the fukk up I guess

it's weird, on the one hand I grew up on rap and love listening to rap, especially creative bars, so I don't want to sound like a hypocrite

but honestly the majority of rap has been weaponized against Black Americans, from promoting Black on Black murder, selling drugs and now making it cool to use every drug in the book, the gender war being pushed by rap which teaches Black males that all Black females are thots, and teaching Black females that all Black men ain't sh*t and just use them for all their money etc, teaching Black youth to be the biggest consumers of sh*t we can't afford, man

I'm not saying this like it's new, but it is still true

of course there are exceptional rappers who rap about other things, but let's be real, they're the minority

I don't blame all rappers either, the record execs and labels deliberately push this music to our people with the machine behind the rappers and it's not all about the money, the ones pushing destructive rappers have sinister intentions that don't have to do with money

of course I'm not leaving things like movies, tv shows and stuff that's mainly promoted to Black people, but the majority of pop culture marketed to Black people is negative in general, if ya know ya know

 

[get these nets]

And that it’s influence on the youth (specifically black youth) is not something we should be cool with at all


As adults we should be serious about this at some point


Or are we just gonna keep brushing it off and say “music doesn’t influence people” like the usual? Which we know is false


I mean this shyt clearly is NOT a positive note for us. If we just gonna keep tip toeing around it and pretend it’s not a real problem I’ll shut the fukk up I guess

There are pockets of this forum centered around delusion and echo-chambers.

Current reality is that many kids and teens don't have solid family structures. That could make them more prone and vulnerable to negative outside influences, including criminals in their neighborhoods, and negativity in music and entertainment.

 

[GreenGhxst]

when you bring u

You know lots of high schoolers?

I saw Kendrick live on an arena tour date during the peak(so far) of his career. I could count on one hand the amount of black people there besides me and black girls there with white bfs. If you don't believe me pull up some concerts on youtube. Its a travesty.

As for Jcole just google image search his name and "trash" to see the sheer amount of memes, then do the same with Future/Durk/NBA YB for comparison.

probably because we can't readily afford it as easy as cacs can

 

[Unolove]

Your right op

Every nikka saying “gang gang” and shyt like that smh