How is kobe not top 5 alltime when there arent 5 players with a better resume?

[Street Knowledge]

And Kobe never faced a team in the finals as bad defensively in the finals as the 2006 Mavs(and that's not even mentioning the FT's)

Kobe:
2001 76ers - 98.9 DRtg (#5)
2002 Nets - 99.5 DRtg (#1)
2004 Pistons - 94.1 DRtg (#2)
2008 Celtics - 98.9 (#1)
2009 Magic - 101.9 DRtg (#1)
2010 Celtics - 103.8 DRtg (#5)

2006 Mavs - 105.0 Drtg (#12)

He massacred those nikkaz

[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iJNoFs3G91A]YouTube - Kobe Bryant greatest games: 62pts in 3 quarters vs Dallas[/ame]

 

[Jplaya2023]

Somebody ease answer this question. Answer with clarity, not with deflection.

Nobody calls Shaq the best ever or better than Jordan.

 

[Houston911]

Did this idiot say that hakeem went against weak competirion and shaq went against real competition?

 

[THE K-MAN]

Did this idiot say that hakeem went against weak competirion and shaq went against real competition?

I know.......I know

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Nobody calls Shaq the best ever or better than Jordan.

That counts as deflection because that has jack shyt to do with what was being talked about.

Yes, Kobe won championships with Shaq and Pau (even though during the runs with Pau dudes was always calling him soft and overrated) but Shaq won championships with Kobe and Wade.

Again, how many players in the history of the league has won a championship without another great player?

Hakeem is the most obvious.

Dirk did it, though his team was stacked with very good role players.

 

[Jplaya2023]

That counts as deflection because that has jack shyt to do with what was being talked about.

Yes, Kobe won championships with Shaq and Pau (even though during the runs with Pau dudes was always calling him soft and overrated) but Shaq won championships with Kobe and Wade.

Again, how many players in the history of the league has won a championship without another great player?

Hakeem is the most obvious.

Dirk did it, though his team was stacked with very good role players.

The only reason people "shyt" on Kobe is because his fans try to place him in a plain where the consensus of basketball heads say he don't belong on. Hence the "hate" that he gets from non kobe fans. Had kobe fans properly placed kobe he wouldn't get all the "hate" he get's today. It's really that simple.

Duncan did it in 03 with the corspe of david robinson.

Rick Barry did it in 75

 

[holidayinn21]

Against weak competition

soooooooooo, shaq was weak comp compared to the dream?

if so, you maybe correct.

edit: hakeem played 17 playoff games against shaq, d-rob, and ewing.

outscored them every game.

his name is hakeem ogawdjuwon.

 

[holidayinn21]

double

 

[billsburydoughboy]

Yea night and day

Shaq without Kobe
1 title/1 finals appearance
1 scoring title
No MVP's
No finals MVP's
2 first team ALL NBA callups
Sweep after sweep after sweep in the playoffs

Kobe without shaq
League MVP
2 scoring titles
7 1st team ALL NBA callups
2 titles/3 finals appearances
2 finals MVP's

Some sidekick. Imagine Robin outshining Batman after they go their separate ways.

 

[iamduval]

Its ok if you believe hes rop 5. Just dont get mad that the majority disagrees with you

 

[Jplaya2023]

Some sidekick. Imagine Robin outshining Batman after they go their separate ways.

context:

Batman was at the end of his reign when they parted, thus not the same crimefighter he was before.

Robin, wanting to get out of Batman's shadow now in his crimefighting prime adopted the name Nightwing and went on to do his thing

 

[iamduval]

Robin also asked to get traded from gotham to metropolis so he could be more like superman

 

[verbaltelekinesis]

I hate you nikkas!!!!!!

Bean is top 5 IMO easily! And the 2nd best SG and player of all time. Yes he was better than Magic and Kareem and Duncan and whoever else you want to compare.

I've said this before, Kobe from about 2004 - 2008 was IMO the perfect basketball player. He was flawless offensively and he still played the kind of defense to actually warrant the 1st Team All Defense noms. For those years, there was literally nothing he couldn't do on the basketball court.

 

[ItzDaKiing]

And Kobe never faced a team in the finals as bad defensively in the finals as the 2006 Mavs(and that's not even mentioning the FT's)

Kobe:
2001 76ers - 98.9 DRtg (#5)
2002 Nets - 99.5 DRtg (#1)
2004 Pistons - 94.1 DRtg (#2)
2008 Celtics - 98.9 (#1)
2009 Magic - 101.9 DRtg (#1)
2010 Celtics - 103.8 DRtg (#5)

2006 Mavs - 105.0 Drtg (#12)

He massacred those nikkaz

YouTube - Kobe Bryant greatest games: 62pts in 3 quarters vs Dallas

They won't acknowledge this though. Kobe is definitely top 5 all time.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

The only reason people "shyt" on Kobe is because his fans try to place him in a plain where the consensus of basketball heads say he don't belong on. Hence the "hate" that he gets from non kobe fans. Had kobe fans properly placed kobe he wouldn't get all the "hate" he get's today. It's really that simple.

Duncan did it in 03 with the corspe of david robinson.

Rick Barry did it in 75

Jamal Wilkes was on that team the year Barry won.